Is there any other group or are there any other individuals besides the elect who believe in Jesus that are proven to ultimately be saved?

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Is there any other group or are there any other individuals besides the elect who believe in Jesus

  • Other groups or individuals besides the elect are proven to ultimately be saved.

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Please name any other groups or types of individuals besides the elect that are proven to ultimately be saved.
 

ATSTD

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Please name any other groups or types of individuals besides the elect that are proven to ultimately be saved.
In order to be saved all you have to do is believe. Why do you think the criminal on the cross next to Jesus went to heaven with him?
 
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In order to be saved all you have to do is believe. Why do you think the criminal on the cross next to Jesus went to heaven with him?
Those who are not of the elect do not truly believe in Jesus.

Please name any other groups or types of individuals besides the elect that are proven to ultimately be saved.
 

Melach

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Gentiles *mic drop*
gentiles are part of the elect. you cannot seriously be saying that only the "jews" are the elect? have you ever read st.paul's epistles? try starting off with ephesians and thessalonians
 

Pilgrimshope

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I agree. So was Nicodemus and possibly Joseph of Arimathea.
indeed with Jesus it doesn’t matter who you were or are when you meet him

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:1, 12-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What matters is do we believe in him truly ? Do we recognize he is the lord ? Will we humble ourselves in his presence and listen to what he came to say ?

anyone can be saved from a Pharisee like Paul to a well Know sinful woman who repents from a prostitute to a sorcerer from a Roman soldier at the cross to a thief hanging next to Jesus but maybe most importantly fornus today anything we are today …..if we turn to the lord by his true and everlasting gospel he’s more than willing to save us from the condemnation

“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭
 

rrcn

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The judgement will determine those who are in the Book of Life. None of us are in the position to determine anyone's salvation.
 
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Please name any other groups or types of individuals besides the elect that are proven to ultimately be saved.
We cannot prove any ultimate thing but only share our opinion/vote.
I believe "elect" = saints = saved, so the question is nonsensical:
Is there anyone saved other than those who are saved?
 
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We cannot prove any ultimate thing but only share our opinion/vote.
I believe "elect" = saints = saved, so the question is nonsensical:
Is there anyone saved other than those who are saved?
I am confused. Do you believe the elect are saved before the foundation of the world?

1 Peter 1:20
Foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but manifested in the last times for you,
 
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I am confused. Do you believe the elect are saved before the foundation of the world?

1 Peter 1:20
Foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but manifested in the last times for you,
Yes to foreknown before creation, but No to God determined who would be who (wheat and tares).
Hence the need for manifestation and separation to opposite just destinies of heaven and hell
(the duo of desirables) at the end of this world history.
 

Cameron143

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Yes to foreknown before creation, but No to God determined who would be who (wheat and tares).
Hence the need for manifestation and separation to opposite just destinies of heaven and hell
(the duo of desirables) at the end of this world history.
Do you believe wheat can become tares, and tares become wheat?
What do you believe the teaching concerning wheat and tares mean?
 
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Yes to foreknown before creation, but No to God determined who would be who (wheat and tares).
Hence the need for manifestation and separation to opposite just destinies of heaven and hell
(the duo of desirables) at the end of this world history.
I am not sure there is any proof that the elect are saved before the foundation of the world.