If someone knowingly chooses to believe false doctrine,

[Intersection]

do you believe this person is a believer?

 

[HeIsHere]

do you believe this person is a believer?

I really doubt anyone "knowingly" believes false doctrine, however, they will live in a state of cognitive dissonance without realizing it.

People who lie to themselves typically believe their own lies so they are not knowingly believing a false doctrine.

 

[NightTwister]

do you believe this person is a believer?

"Believe upon the correct doctrine and you shall be saved."

I haven't found that verse anywhere.

 

[Intersection]

"Believe upon the correct doctrine and you shall be saved."

I haven't found that verse anywhere.

If someone knowingly chooses to believe false doctrine, do you believe this person is a believer in false doctrine or a believer in Jesus?

 

[HeIsHere]

If someone knowingly chooses to believe false doctrine, do you believe this person is a believer in false doctrine or a believer in Jesus?

Why would anyone do this?
Only an irrational mind would do this.

 

[Intersection]

Why would anyone do this?
Only an irrational mind would do this.

People who hate correct doctrine are ruled by the devil.

 

[Daisy2]

Some of the Mormons know the truth and still choose to attend their church. But as Heishere said they don't choose believe the false doctrine

 

[HeIsHere]

Some of the Mormons know the truth and still choose to attend their church.

Interesting, probably because of the comfort of what is familiar.

 

[HeIsHere]

People who hate correct doctrine are ruled by the devil.

You know there are a lot of doctrines.

The devil has no capacity to rule everyone who "hate" correct doctrine.

 

[Intersection]

I agree that this person is a believer in false doctrine.

 

[HeIsHere]

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I agree that this person is a believer in false doctrine.

What is this correct doctrine?
Specificity would help.

 

[Grace911]

do you believe this person is a believer?

No I believe this is someone who does not know what the scripture says and cannot stand on scripture thus are falling for lies that are told by usually someone who has a place of authority.

 

[Intersection]

What is this correct doctrine?
Specificity would help.

Al correct doctrine is correct. Which specific doctrine do you wish to talk about?

 

[HeIsHere]

Al correct doctrine is correct. Which specific doctrine do you wish to talk about?

Your are funny, in a good way.

I should have asked what is the false doctrine, maybe you have a particular one in mind?

I would say the first and foremost false doctrine is we can save ourselves through our works.

 

[Intersection]

Your are funny, in a good way.

I should have asked what is the false doctrine, maybe you have a particular one in mind?

The only correct doctrine I have in mind right now is all correct doctrine.

 

[HeIsHere]

The only correct doctrine I have in mind right now is all correct doctrine.

Okay.
Sounds good.

 

[Intersection]

No I believe this is someone who does not know what the scripture says and cannot stand on scripture thus are falling for lies that are told by usually someone who has a place of authority.

Those who knowing choose to believe false doctrine do go to hell.

 

[PaulThomson]

do you believe this person is a believer?

Believing is being convinced of something more than one doubts it, believing greater than 50%, and therefore believing it sufficiently to act commensurately with that conviction.
Knowing is being 100% certain of something, believing it without doubting, believing it 100%, and therefore acting commensurately with that conviction.
Lying is being unconvinced of something but claiming to believe it to be true.

The idea of knowingly choosing to believe a lie seems to me, therefore, to be a logically impossibility.
One could knowingly choose to profess to believe a lie.

 

[Grace911]

Those who knowing choose to believe false doctrine do go to hell.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. (Mark 7:7-9)

 

[Intersection]

Believing is being convinced of something more than one doubts it, believing greater than 50%, and therefore believing it sufficiently to act commensurately with that conviction.
Knowing is being 100% certain of something, believing it without doubting, believing it 100%, and therefore acting commensurately with that conviction.
Lying is being unconvinced of something but claiming to believe it to be true.

The idea of knowingly choosing to believe a lie seems to me, therefore, to be a logically impossibility.
One could knowingly choose to profess to believe a lie.

People choose to believe lies of false doctrine all the time. Billions of people go to hell for believing heresy.