The Greatest depression is coming, are you ready?

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Trump’s Tariff War Crushes China’s Economy, Exposing 1.4 Billion Chinese Have No Spending Power


"Eat less, breathe more air, it's the only thing that is free"
 

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Tariff War Shakes China’s Political and Economic Structure, With 200 Million Facing Unemployment

 

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Tariff War Shakes China’s Political and Economic Structure, With 200 Million Facing Unemployment

Should we expect retaliation? Maybe something worse than COVID this time. :unsure:
 

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Do not buy the simplistic explanations for the market going down because Trump said something investors didn't like.

The facts are the facts.

1. Projected inflation for the US dollar is now estimated at 6.9% this next year. Now why would you hold onto bonds that are paying 4% if the money is deflating at closer to 7%?

2. Over the last 12 months the US stock market has gone up 0% while gold is up 40% in that same time frame. Foreign countries hold US stocks and bonds because they are money, they are liquid and they are appreciating. US stocks and bonds are not doing any of those things, gold is. So why hold US stocks and bonds? As a result they are selling at the greatest rate since WW2.

3. Consumer sentiment is an excellent way to predict the future. If people are optimistic it indicates they will be making big purchases, if they are pessimistic it indicates they won't. Right now consumer sentiment is at one of the all time lows. Sometimes this can be due to irrational depression just as you can have "irrational exuberance". However, with wars in Ukraine and Mideast, both of which involve nuclear superpowers fighting each other, and with the tariff war between the US and China, and with AI taking people's jobs there is nothing "irrational" about their pessimism.

4. We have close to 6% of workers in this country working two part time jobs at the same time. That is an all time high. This indicates that people are struggling to survive. The reason they are working part time jobs is so that the companies don't have to pay them benefits. We also have a big increase in companies going bankrupt year over year.

When we look at these four facts it is very clear the US economy is in a very bad way and won't recover any time soon. If this was all then it might simply be a recession. But the situation in China is much worse than the US. The two engines to the world's economy are the US and China. We are flying in an airplane that has just lost both engines.

Now when you understand all that gold going up 40% makes perfect sense. Think of gold as the parachute for when the airplane which is the global economy loses both engines. It is like the saying "I am a bomb technician, if you see me running try to keep up". If we had all of these facts but Gold had not gone up it would mean that the elites know something we don't. But having all these facts + gold going up 40% simply confirms what we have surmised, that the global economy is about to crash.

Notice that none of these facts have anything to do with a social media post by Donald Trump.
 

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⚡ALERT: GOLD 3500! ISRAEL EMERGENCY WW3 DRILL! CHINA SAYS F*K USA! UKRAINE NUKE MEDS, SYSTEM BROKE!
 

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"Layoffs are insane right now"


Over 400,000 Workers Lost Their Jobs as RECESSION Begins
 

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"He who has the gold makes the rules" Donald Trump, 4/20/2025

PREPARE: Most People Have No Idea What's About To Happen! - Andy Schectman

 

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Do not underestimate how depraved the Satanic rulers are.

This is what hit me when I carefully studied the mortgage meltdown in 2008. I get that most people were clueless, but at the same time I knew that those who were making these policies that led to the meltdown were not. They knew that it was a ponzi scheme and it would collapse. So why would they do it? Several reasons, first they had an ace in the hole and knew that the US government would bail them out. They had dirt on the US government which was so bad it would have brought down the whole US government, so when the time came they simply blackmailed the US government into not prosecuting them for their crimes and to bail them out with taxpayer money adding insult to injury.

In the same way let us consider these naked shorts on silver. Why would they do this knowing that their potential losses are unlimited. Again, it isn't "their" potential losses. No doubt when their portfolio is looked at they will be well prepared for the day of reckoning. No, they are the officers of publicly traded companies that are making these decisions which will ultimately bankrupt the publicly traded company and making the shareholders broke, but their personal wealth will not be impacted. Yes, they own shares in the company, but they own a lot of other stuff as well. As long as the bribes exceed their potential losses these people are for sale.

Keeping the silver price low has helped many other industries get rich, so it is easy to have the money to buy off a few officers in a few companies to short the silver. Just remember, they aren't doing this with their money, they are using someone else's money.
 

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I would have thought everyone would have already fully braced themselves, I think we are less than a month away and maybe less than two weeks away from the rapture.
Past a month now.

Still here.

Updated schedule?
 

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Past a month now.

Still here.

Updated schedule?
Interesting that was one month from the Pope's death.

The Pope's funeral is Saturday, so I will be able to test my theory comparing the Pope's funeral to the great sacrifice to Dagon called by God in 1 Kings 18.


Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I am wondering if the death of the Pope refers to this rich man dying.

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

"A certain rich man" refers to a particular one, he is prominent, likely he is well known.

Clothed in purple and fine linen is what priests wear. We already know he is rich and that rich people wear fine clothes. So we don't need the term purple to tell us he is rich. Instead a rich man might wear clothes of any color, but to be specific with "purple and fine linen" that is quite distinctive for a priest. However, the Jewish priests were primarily blue and fine linen.

I thought this refers to the Pope who wears purple, but he only wears purple during lent and advent. He had on a purple sash during Easter service.

Now "fared sumptously" is a very interesting expression. The word for fared is often translated "Merry", "happy" or to make merry. So often associated with a party or celebration. Sumptuously means magnificently or splendidly. So it is not indicating a kind of gluttony, rather it means to live like a king. We have a picture of a priest, living like a king, and not any priest, a certain priest, a particular one, a famous one, a priest the whole world knows.
 

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The Pope's funeral and prophecy

In Judges Samson pushes out the pillars during a great sacrifice to Dagon.

Judges 16:23 Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand.

Philistines were halfway between Egypt (the world) and Israel (the good land). They are like humpty dumpty, or those who have one foot in the world and one foot in the heavenly kingdom. Now the Lord’s of the Philistines will be gathering for the Pope’s funeral this Saturday.

I believe that this is a picture of the rapture. All the stones resting on these two pillars are cast down, just as Jesus said would happen while the two pillars represent the church (Paul told us the church is the pillars) being taken out of the way by the strong man, Samson signifying Jesus.

At the funeral everyone will be ready to call the prophecy of Saint Malachyt a false prophecy because he said after the last Pope comes the day of judgment. This is like the lords of the Philistines rejoicing that the Strong man is delivered into their hand.

Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

Compare this event with what Jesus said in Matthew.

Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

When Jesus was crucified He also brought down the entire house of the Jewish religion. There is a comparison here, they controlled the Jews and made proclamations that Jesus was not the Messiah. Who is the controlling voice in Christianity pushing the ecumenical movement to be one with all faiths and to condemn those preaching that Jesus is the only way? That would be the Catholic church led by the Pope.

The priests of Dagon wear the same hat that the Pope wears. So we have connection between the Pope and the rapture in this story. There are many "great sacrifices" to Dagon like Easter and Christmas. But you would not get all the Lord’s of the Philistines gathered to those because they would all be celebrating those events in their own Cathedrals and churches.
 

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The Pope's funeral and prophecy (part 2)

However, if we go to 1 Kings 18 when Elijah calls down fire this also signifies one aspect of the rapture. All of Israel is troubled by false prophets of Baal and those that sit at the table of Jezebel.

1 Kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Right now Christians are caught between who to follow. The rapture will clear up all the confusion and this event describes how that will happen. Imagine the rapture takes place at the time of the Pope’s funeral which is live streamed to the whole earth and you see that none of these Lords of the Philistines are raptured, but meanwhile around the globe genuine believers are raptured.

There are 850 of these prophets at this event all trying to call down fire on their sacrifice while Elijah, the one true prophet, signifying the pure word during the church age, is standing against them. Elijah asks them "how long they would be caught between two opinions". It is the rapture that exposes all the false prophets while also revealing who was telling the truth. This event is similar to the story with Samson because it also is a great sacrifice, and in both stories the false prophets are killed after the rapture. However, this cannot be a holy day for Dagon because of two reasons. First, God called the assembly.

1 Kings 18:19 Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table.

And second, you would not get all of the false prophets around the world gathering in one place on Easter or Christmas because they have to do their own celebrations in their Cathedrals and temples. However, we refer to someone dying as "God calling them home". So everyone would gather at the funeral of the Pope and that would be considered a "great sacrifice to Dagon" which God called, and you would get all the religious leaders from the entire globe gathering there. So then this narrows down the possible event to the funeral of a Pope which traditionally is held four days after he dies. Hence he is in the grave for four days, which also aligns with the story of Lazarus. In this case the Pope died six days before the funeral but his casket was moved to St. Peter’s Basilica four days before the funeral.
 

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The Pope's funeral and prophecy (part 3)

In Luke it says that Lazarus was "laid at his gate".

Luke 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

In Jerusalem there is a gate called the Damascus gate. This is important because Lazarus is the Greek form of Eleazar which was Abraham's servant who went and got Rebekah and brought her to Isaac, sight unseen. This is a picture of the church being raptured. Isaac is not allowed to return to the land yet because they had been seeking to kill Abraham there. Instead he meets Eleazar and Rebekah halfway just as the Lord will meet the raptured church in clouds. Eleazar was from Damascus. Also, at the Damascus gate there is a Catholic church of St. Stephen, the first martyr. So then Lazarus could refer to all the martyrs of the church age, 11 of whom were Franciscan monks killed in Damascus. Meanwhile Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Together we get 12, 11 are Franciscans and one is a Jesuit. This is similar to the disciples, 11 were Galileans and 1 was from Judah (Judas).

Here is part of the Papal oath that Francis swore:

I swear to God Almighty and the Savior Jesus Christ that I will keep whatever has been revealed through Christ and His Successors and whatever the first councils and my predecessors have defined and declared.

He swore to Jesus Christ and so Jesus Christ using his death to keep that which was revealed through Christ and the first councils that were defined and declared by the church fathers is righteous.

I will keep without sacrifice to itself the discipline and the rite of the Church. I will put outside the Church whoever dares to go against this oath, may it be somebody else or I.

This is what happens on that sacrifice when Elijah calls down fire. The 850 false prophets are put outside the church.

If I should undertake to act in anything of contrary sense, or should permit that it will be executed, Thou willst not be merciful to me on the dreadful Day of Divine Justice.

Accordingly, without exclusion, We subject to severest excommunication anyone — be it Ourselves or be it another — who would dare to undertake anything new in contradiction to this constituted evangelic Tradition and the purity of the orthodox Faith and the Christian religion, or would seek to change anything by his opposing efforts, or would agree with those who undertake such a blasphemous venture.”

From the get go he understood what would happen to those who went contrary to the faith once for all delivered by the apostles. This is what happens to those who did this when Elijah calls down fire.

What is also interesting about the account in Luke is that this rich man asks that one returns from the dead to warn his brothers but we don't see Lazarus rise from the dead in Luke. And yet, we might actually see that. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, is a type of the church. He lived for 365 years and "was not". He walked with God, the implication being he walked with God every day and then poof, he was taken. That is a picture of the rapture. In Luke it concludes that they were continually in the temple blessing God. And then it ends as though, like Enoch, poof they are gone. The word blessing is very interesting, it is more general that worship, or teaching, or preaching, or evangelizing, or ministering. It is all inclusive for all the ways in which we can serve the Lord. Also, the rapture will be a warning to all those who are left on earth to not go to hell but to repent and receive Jesus.

Also in Luke we learn the rich man is dressed in purple, just like the Pope, and just like the Pope which has a Catholic church at the Damascus gate, Lazarus is laid at the rich man's gate. What is extremely interesting about that is that the Pope only wears purple during lent and Advent, the time of his death.

Finally, in John we see the event that causes the whole world to praise the Lord on Palm Sunday. It was the raising of Lazarus from the grave. In the same way we will see a triumphant entry of the Lord after the rapture. In Joel we learn that the latter rain, referring to the revival that takes place after the rapture takes place in the first month. The rapture paves the way for the Lord to have a triumphant entry into Jerusalem just as raising Lazarus paved the way at the start of the church age.
 

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So, was the Pope raptured, so your prediction was sound?

Last time I asked you about this you posted several lengthy posts about prophecy or something. It looks like we're in for the same m.o. again.
 

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So, was the Pope raptured, so your prediction was sound?

Last time I asked you about this you posted several lengthy posts about prophecy or something. It looks like we're in for the same m.o. again.
You clearly did not read what I said, I liken the Pope to the rich man, not to Lazarus,
 

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You clearly did not read what I said, I liken the Pope to the rich man, not to Lazarus,
Correct, I tend not to read these flow like water around obstacles predictions. What's a little obstacle like a failed prediction....
 

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Correct, I tend not to read these flow like water around obstacles predictions. What's a little obstacle like a failed prediction....
Thanks for letting me know, I'll stop reading and responding to your questions.
 

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Tariff War Crushes China’s Shipping Sector, Mass Cancellations, 30% of China-U.S. Shipments Canceled