Who is Elihu?

[UnoiAmarah]

Yes, it is Elihu's question, and it is directed at Job. Job has placed himself above God by declaring his righteousness is greater than God's righteousness..

So your answer is that you don't have any idea what Elihu was referring unto, even though Elihu said his lips would utter knowledge clearly.

Elihu that it was God who was afflicted Job, not man.

12 Yea, I attended unto you, and, behold, there was none of you that convinced Job, or that answered his words:
13 Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Job 32:12-13

 

[tttallison]

So your answer is that you don't have any idea what Elihu was referring unto, even though Elihu said his lips would utter knowledge clearly.

Elihu that it was God who was afflicted Job, not man.

12 Yea, I attended unto you, and, behold, there was none of you that convinced Job, or that answered his words:
13 Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Job 32:12-13

You are putting words in my mouth by presenting unclear questions.

Of course it was God who thrusted Job down. God wanted to save Job's soul. Job was hovering over the pit. God said woe to him that contends with God, and who exalts himself above God. God asked Job if he thought Job's own arm could save him. God's arm is Jesus Christ.

Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

 

[UnoiAmarah]

When you figure out what the cloud Elihu was speaking of in Job 37:1 is, let me know. till then I got to skittle.

 

[tttallison]

When you figure out what the cloud Elihu was speaking of in Job 37:1 is, let me know. till then I got to skittle.

Elihu doesn't speak of a cloud in Job 37:1

 

[christophernyc]

There is a pastor, John A. Hartley, who preached 42 full sermons on Job, one for each chapter of the book. He ended up with five full sermons on Elihu with a lot of in-depth and insightful analysis on this character.

ELIHU: MAN ON FIRE
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/avcopc/sermons/8242101444766/

ELIHU: FALSE PROPHET, PRIEST & KING
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/avcopc/sermons/92212013570/

ELIHU WANTS TO CRUCIFY CHRIST
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/avcopc/sermons/96211224476933/

ELIHU SILENCES GOD
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/avcopc/sermons/912212327283558/

EVEN ELIHU BELIEVES AND TREMBLES
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/avcopc/sermons/926211541364613/

 

[tttallison]

There is a pastor, John A. Hartley, who preached 42 full sermons on Job, one for each chapter of the book. He ended up with five full sermons on Elihu with a lot of in-depth and insightful analysis on this character.

Here lies the problem why most people do not understand the book of Job. Because pastors have a bias toward Job. They have been taught in seminaries that Job is a Saint, and the narrative laid out is always to defend Job. Job can say God will laugh at the trial of the innocent. Job can exalt himself above God, and they will always say it is alright, and then make some excuse for Job.

Hartley acknowledges that God gave Elihu six uninterrupted chapters in this book, and that is longer than twelve Old Testament books.

How can one justify God giving that much uninterrupted dialogue to a deceiver?

 

[UnoiAmarah]

Elihu doesn't speak of a cloud in Job 37:1

He wasn't? So what was he speaking of when he said "At this also my heart trembleth, and is moved out of his place." ?

 

[UnoiAmarah]

God said to Job, Job 40:2 "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it." So we see that Job has been striving with God.

Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God .Job 37:14
Dost thou know when God disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine? Job 37:15

Would you think that it might be possible that Ehilu was asking Job about the great flood when it disposed the ungodly and the rainbow shined in the cloud?

 

[tttallison]

Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God .Job 37:14
Dost thou know when God disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine? Job 37:15

Would you think that it might be possible that Ehilu was asking Job about the great flood when it disposed the ungodly and the rainbow shined in the cloud?

Possibly. It is all in how you interpret Strong's H7760 - śûm

The authorized version interprets it as disposed or put away.

The NASB interprets it as established.

Depending on how you interpret Strong's H7760 - śûm will determine whether it is referring to the flood or creation, or possible something else we did not see.

What verse has rainbow in it?

 

[UnoiAmarah]

Either you believe that it was referring to God putting away the wicked by a global flood during the days of Noah at which time Elihu is making the inference for God causing his light to shine in the cloud, being a reference to the bow in the cloud that was accepted by most theologians as being the rainbow to appear in the cloud.

Or you have some other plausible explanation for what Elihu was talking about if you are going to deny that the LORD was referring unto Elihu when he asked Job who it was speaking words without knowledge.

There is a big difference between accusing someone of claiming to be more righteous than God than saying a person is saying something without knowledge.

What verse has rainbow in it?

Good question, what verse says a rainbow was set in the cloud?