Understanding God’s election
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Re: the 3,000, asked and answered. Apart from Scripture I have no way of knowing how many heard and accepted Peter other than the 3,000 that's stated.
Re: your second question, I've told you I'm not certain I understand it, so please restate it or clarify it if you'd like an answer.
Re: your second question, I've told you I'm not certain I understand it, so please restate it or clarify it if you'd like an answer.
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It's a simple question: did anyone who did not gladly receive the sermon get baptized? The text says that those who gladly received were baptized. We know that the total number saved was 3,000. Out of the 3,000, were any other than those who gladly received and were baptized? In other words, were there some who did not gladly receive and did not get baptized who are part of the 3,000 who were saved?
It's an odd and awkward question. The better question is, were there only 3k there?
It is an obvious assumption either way, to say yes or no.
But also seems unrealistic to say everyone there came to belief.
Not that it is not possible.
Just as it seems unrealistic to assume that God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven only numbered 3k.
It is an obvious assumption either way, to say yes or no.
But also seems unrealistic to say everyone there came to belief.
Not that it is not possible.
Just as it seems unrealistic to assume that God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven only numbered 3k.
I agree with sentence number one. Number two I know not the answer to how many were present. But an AI Overview says
During Pentecost in Jerusalem, an estimated 900,000 Jews from across the Roman Empire and Middle East gathered
for the celebration. These pilgrims, along with Jerusalem's local population of 100,000, made up the large crowd.
Clearly, then, not all who were present came to believe. That's definitely believable.
Who can do the math? 3k out of almost a million is what percentage? LOL
AI to the rescue again = is approximately 0.3%
During Pentecost in Jerusalem, an estimated 900,000 Jews from across the Roman Empire and Middle East gathered
for the celebration. These pilgrims, along with Jerusalem's local population of 100,000, made up the large crowd.
Clearly, then, not all who were present came to believe. That's definitely believable.
Who can do the math? 3k out of almost a million is what percentage? LOL
AI to the rescue again = is approximately 0.3%
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Clear to you maybe and even possible, but all are estimates and speculations and such are discussed as estimations. And then there are other things we can throw at the Text and never get answered - how did 3,000 hear Peter? - were 100,000 (some say 250k, some say 30k, etc.) there where Peter was at the time? - how many at the snack bars and Jerusalem porta-johns and missed the best scene? - etc...
Speculate all you want and as wildly as you want or don't want. Join the crowd who do various estimations using various factors and call each other stupid for their estimations. The Text says what it says, and your argument is from silence.
Speculate all you want and as wildly as you want or don't want. Join the crowd who do various estimations using various factors and call each other stupid for their estimations. The Text says what it says, and your argument is from silence.