Saved by faith alone?

[TrustandObey]

But they did fail Gods test.

For ALL have sinned and fall short of Gods glory

No one has passed Gods test. What makes you think they did?

No one passes Gods test?

Genesis 22

Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

“I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son,

Most people fail Gods tests and all fall short of the glory of God but God does test us and we can pass.


James 1:3-4
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.

 

[TrustandObey]

God's requirement for salvation (cf. Acts 16:30).

Are you reading this to mean
A. God's only requirement for salvation

or

B. One of God's requirements for salvation

 

[studier]

And btw these passages are about the DEEP things of God which I already explained at least a year ago if not two.
NOT about the Gospel, so you can put those aside as you PROOF tests.

In line with what you essentially and I think rhetorically asked me elsewhere, these people don't care about context and accuracy. It's all about supporting a tradition. I too have gone through that section of Scripture more than once and they could care less what's actually being discussed there.

 

[HeIsHere]

In line with what you essentially and I think rhetorically asked me elsewhere, these people don't care about context and accuracy. It's all about supporting a tradition. I too have gone through that section of Scripture more than once and they could care less what's actually being discussed there.

Thank you.

 

[HeIsHere]

God's requirement for salvation (cf. Acts 16:30).

Saving of the soul, as used in scripture succeeds (as in follows or could be partially co-terminus) one's spiritual salvation.

Psalm 147:3 states, "He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds."

"Work out your salvation with fear and trembling" from Philippians 2:12

So it is not part of GRFS.

The only requirement to receive spiritual salvation (eternal life) is >>>>>>faith in/trust in!!

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

It goes deeper than not seeing.
It is foolishly refusing to perceive that without God life is a farce,
and what one believes is no more significant than the ideology of a rock!

You don't realize what you just stated there.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Or could some be reacting to your posts and false meaning to scriptures in a similar way that the Disciples most likely did when a legion of demons begged God to enter into swine and then watched them run over a cliff into the ocean killing the entire herd of swine...

No.

 

[GWH]

Are you reading this to mean
A. God's only requirement for salvation

or

B. One of God's requirements for salvation

I read this to be answered by Paul in Acts 16:31 as “Believe in the Lord Jesus.” (ACTS 16:31) This is GRFS in a nutshell.
However, reading further we find that GRFS can be stated in various ways, which may cause confusion. Some statements (e.g. ACTS 16:31, & Eph. 2:8-9) are in terms of believing right, and others (e.g. Matt. 7:21, “only he who does the will of my Father will enter heaven”, cf. Gal. 6:7-9 & Eph. 2:10) are in terms of behaving right. This prompts the question: Is salvation obtained by believing God’s words or by doing God’s works? The answer is indicated by John 6:29: “The work of God is to believe in the one [Messiah/Christ] He has sent.” As Jesus stated (in John 14:6): “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Reading more we learn that GRFS “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2CR 4:5 & CL 2:6) can be elaborated thusly:

1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (DT 6:4, JN 3:16, 2THS 1:6), who is both able (2TM 1:12) and willing (1TM 2:3-4, EZK 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (RM 3:23, 2TM 3:2-4, CL 3:5), miserable (GL 5:19-21), and hopeless (EPH 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (MT 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (JN 3:18, RM 2:5-11).
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (JN 3:16, ACTS 16:30-31, PHP 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (RM 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1CR 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (LK 2:11, JN 14:6, ACTS 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (MT 22:37-40, JN 13:35, RM 13:9)—forever (MT 10:22, PS 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (RV 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (JN 14:6, 17&26, RM 8:6-17, GL 6:7-9, EPH 1:13-14, HB 10:36, 12:1, JM 1:2-4).

 

[GWH]

Saving of the soul, as used in scripture succeeds (as in follows or could be partially co-terminus) one's spiritual salvation.

Psalm 147:3 states, "He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds."

"Work out your salvation with fear and trembling" from Philippians 2:12

So it is not part of GRFS.

The only requirement to receive spiritual salvation (eternal life) is >>>>>>faith in/trust in!!

Well, Paul said saved souls will receive immortal spiritual bodies as they are resurrected to heaven (1Cor. 15:42-54).

 

[GWH]

You don't realize what you just stated there.

Why do you say that? What do you "realize" I stated?

 

[lrs68]

No.

I find it interesting that you felt like that was towards you so you responded to it.
Now, I am not going to be fake and pretend it wasn't towards you but to be honest it was towards several posts throughout this thread.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

I find it interesting that you felt like that was towards you so you responded to it.
Now, I am not going to be fake and pretend it wasn't towards you but to be honest it was towards several posts throughout this thread.

You're going to be honest?
You just double talked yourself there.

I reported it. And you just admitted it was a post intended toward me.

You posted right under my own post. Of course it was toward me. You just didn't have the guts to quote me or now name other Christians here you intend to call demons,in your tricky slanderous way.


Implying I'm a demon? That's against the rules. You and your minions who agreed are there too.

When you post false doctrine and are rebuked you call the Christian who does this a demon. And you even say you meant to say that same slander toward other posts here.

You and your minions are false. Call me anything you like.

I'm Saved by the blood of Christ.

 

[Jackson129]

So, if we take the Parable of the Sower, the 2nd and 3rd(?) soil believed but never trusted for salvation so never truly Believed and only the 4th soil trusted and thus Believed, correct?

Do you not think the demonic rebellion against God has anything to do with their belief? Do you think they are looking for salvation from God whom they rejected, or do you think salvation is available to them?

Dosent one of the demons say to Jesus "are you here to torment us before our time" so they know who Jesus is and what he is. They were with him in heaven before the fall. They are already condemned and they know it. There's nothing that they can do. IMO

 

[lrs68]

You're going to be honest?
You just double talked yourself there.

I reported it. And you just admitted it was a post intended toward me.

You posted right under my own post. Of course it was toward me. You just didn't have the guts to quote me or now name other Christians here you intend to call demons,in your tricky slanderous way.


Implying I'm a demon? That's against the rules. You and your minions who agreed are there too.

When you post false doctrine and are rebuked you call the Christian who does this a demon. And you even say you meant to say that same slander toward other posts here.

You and your minions are false. Call me anything you like.

I'm Saved by the blood of Christ.

Where did I call you a demon at?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Dead means inoperative/separated in the Greek and in context.
Do some research.

Your right, It means inoperative

If I CLAM TO HAVE FAITH.. but it is dead INOPERATIVE)

How can I be saved. Since I am saved by grace through faith

thats whay I have been telling you for days now. Thank you for proving my point

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Obviously who do not understand the word "distinct" and how I am using it.
Have a good day.

I understand completely

YOUR WRONG

If your soul is not saved, you do not have eternal life’

if your soul is saved, it is saved forever 9eternal life)

You act like people can not understand basic things, we understand them quite well.. You just do not understand them yourself and then get upset when people see it and you can;t

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I agree, but does that mean you agree with what I said?

No

How could I agree wiht what you said’

And by what you said you do not agree,

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

It sounds more like we can be saved without being saved.

And that is any better?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

No one passes Gods test?

Genesis 22

Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

“I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son,

Most people fail Gods tests and all fall short of the glory of God but God does test us and we can pass.


James 1:3-4
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.

Excuse me my friend

Abraham was saved in Gen 15.

In the passage you spoke of. He tests our faith in growing in him. Not passing a test to get to heaven

neither one of those passage hint at passing a test to earn the right to go to heaven

You want to do that. Go follow the law. Because that is the true test of if you passed or not

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You're going to be honest?
You just double talked yourself there.

I reported it. And you just admitted it was a post intended toward me.

You posted right under my own post. Of course it was toward me. You just didn't have the guts to quote me or now name other Christians here you intend to call demons,in your tricky slanderous way.


Implying I'm a demon? That's against the rules. You and your minions who agreed are there too.

When you post false doctrine and are rebuked you call the Christian who does this a demon. And you even say you meant to say that same slander toward other posts here.

You and your minions are false. Call me anything you like.

I'm Saved by the blood of Christ.

He did not call you a demon that I saw. Could you have is read him?

He said people might be replying to you like the disciples replied to demons who were saying something

He was talking about the way people replied Not calling you a demon From what I saw