This is not in scripture...anywhere...
"Elect moral agents?"
Exactly that’s what bi local discussion comes to lol elect moral agents who were saved always they weren’t objects of wrath like all mankind was nooo they were always saved and elect and there’s nothing they need to do to be saved because it’s an election and they already won
So the effect of that thinking is
“I tell you, Nay: but,
except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
Luke 13:3 KJV
Not me ! I’m elect and chosen.
“Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.”
Revelation 2:5 KJV
“that’s not for believers they can’t be removed because ….they were pre chosen and elected as “the specials of God “ thier oamp won’t ever be moved repentance ? Naw …. Election !!!
It really turns the mind against what the Bible actually says
“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart
treasurest up unto thyself ( they are doing it to themselves not God ) wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of
God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: ( this is what God has always said he will do )
to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
but
unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; but
glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for
there is no respect of persons with God.”
Romans 2:5-11 KJV
But ….. “ nope God has respect unto me , I’m chosen that doesn’t apply to me I’m already saved “
“For
we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
“ not me I’m already saved and chosen “
“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Matthew 6:14-15 KJV
“Nope I’m already forgiven and chosen and ordained I’m chosen and special to God he loves me he died for
my sins but not everyone’s that’s for other people who don’t believe in Jesus …”
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and
he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only,
but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
“Naw he died and now I’m saved because I was chosen his death doesn’t apply to them tbey aren’t chosen ……chose me not them “
It’s a circle of confusion . Imagine preaching to someone “ listen God either chose you or he didn’t do t ever believe the things you actually learn in the Bible you’re either chosen or not that’s salvation …you can’t change it because you can’t repent or obey God hell either make you do that because your chosen or he won’t because you aren’t chosen “ it’s just this
“I charge thee therefore before God, and
the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will
not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and
they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:1-4 KJV
People don’t want to hear the truth anymore because it calls them to repentance when they hear it
