Why was the bible and all teachings of it removed from school?

[Brasspen]

It was removed because the girls will not give into sex. They know when they are being tempted. If your being tempted, you know it's from the devil.
They wanted their children to be able to have all the girls in all of the USA. It was for conquest, conquering them, making all the girls pregnant with their own. This makes their family of sinners bigger. More dominion, power and authority. And the more of them there are, the faster the increase. Ignorant girls are easy, you can get them to do anything.

I happen to know they sold their souls to the devil so they could have that right there. I know from the gift of prophecy.

 

[GWH]

It was removed because the girls will not give into sex. They know when they are being tempted. If your being tempted, you know it's from the devil.
They wanted their children to be able to have all the girls in all of the USA. It was for conquest, conquering them, making all the girls pregnant with their own. This makes their family of sinners bigger. More dominion, power and authority. And the more of them there are, the faster the increase. Ignorant girls are easy, you can get them to do anything.

I happen to know they sold their souls to the devil so they could have that right there. I know from the gift of prophecy.

The main reason was because Christians would not agree about what biblical doctrine should be taught.
For example, I do not object to the last six of the Ten Commandments (in Exod. 20:1-11 being posted in schools,
but I would want the Greatest Commandments (Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:35) to be posted too,
along with the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12).

 

[homwardbound]

It was removed because the girls will not give into sex. They know when they are being tempted. If your being tempted, you know it's from the devil.
They wanted their children to be able to have all the girls in all of the USA. It was for conquest, conquering them, making all the girls pregnant with their own. This makes their family of sinners bigger. More dominion, power and authority. And the more of them there are, the faster the increase. Ignorant girls are easy, you can get them to do anything.

I happen to know they sold their souls to the devil so they could have that right there. I know from the gift of prophecy.

however this got removed, it happened as evil is always out and about in this world, that I see, I am no longer a part of, thanks to Father and Son for me to stand in. And am still learning truth over error in this world, from my Daddy, Father, PaPa
Evil seeks whomever it may devour and harm whomever it can, and does that to this day, even though Satan was defeated at that cross, in the risen Son, not in the death was Satan defeated.
We have the first born flesh and blood people that have chosen to not believe God and do their own things as righteous and are not righteous from God at all, even though might appear as is.
Yet God continues for now to allow and is waiting
Hebrews 1:1-4 for all flesh to be under is Son's risen feet

 

[SomeDisciple]

Not incorrect; but I feel further development is in order.

The problem isn't really that the bible isn't in the public schools; the problem is that young people spend a majority of their waking hours at school or preparing for school or some school activity.

I definitely agree that it's a method of conquest, though: public schools are designed to train mind-slaves while giving lipservice to liberty, nationalism, and free-market economy.

Those who have substantial wealth and power do not want "strong families" that will create competition for them. They need a lower class of people that will reproduce on unbridled instinct and do labor on command; and of course Christian households are a damper to reckless fornication that leads to debt-slavery and various other crisis for the individual.

The only reason they want abortion "enshrined as a fundamental right" is because while they DO want to "educate" young people; they DO NOT want to actually be stuck paying for their sustenance and development- that is for the working class slave-men to pay for. "Families" are not needed or desirable; but men paying child-support while having minimal influence on their own children is perfect... the government gets all the influence and the man pays the price.

This is also why the US has an overabundance of food; but not shelter. Like cattle; Americans are amply fed and given minimal shelter. You can't have hunger kicking people into survival mode and suppressing their reproductive instincts- but shelter needs to be scarce as possible so that people are willing to agree to remain in perpetual debt to obtain it. You have to keep the working-class working as hard as they can or else they will have time to start innovating and competing with you.

Keeping conditions in a place where the working class will be pressured to cohabitate to alleviate economic pressures is ideal; because the failure rate of these relationships is high, but they still often beget children before they fail.

This is all easily understood; whether by special revelation, or by the shameless confessions of the powerful.

 

[SomeDisciple]

I would also add that this is not a one-gender strategy. You can "get ignorant girls to do anything" but they can also get ignorant men to do anything; otherwise, why are there so many warnings in the bible telling young men not to yield their strength to an immoral woman? How often do men think they are the hunter, when they are truly the game walking right into a trap?

 

[homwardbound]

I would also add that this is not a one-gender strategy. You can "get ignorant girls to do anything" but they can also get ignorant men to do anything; otherwise, why are there so many warnings in the bible telling young men not to yield their strength to an immoral woman? How often do men think they are the hunter, when they are truly the game walking right into a trap?

thank you, which does not make women bad, it equals the playing field of motives
Which I see God sees. Yet I needed to see me, my motives first and agree to God to get them changed in God's truth in loving us all. That be what I see, in spite of taking prayer out of the school
I see that can bring out more prayer. Father still knows and has chose to not control or manipulate anyone as religion itself does
What? How?
Religion in original meaning means
"what am I doing to get to anyone, to respond to me"
Whoever I get to respond to me, or whoever gets me to respond to them, makes me or them God, does it not?
Thinking out of the box, trusting God Father and Son as Won only thank you

 

[Deuteronomy]

In case anyone is interested, I believe that the following three are the principal SCOTUS cases that struck down,

1. school-sanctioned prayer,
2. mandatory Scripture reading & recitation of the Lord's Prayer during school,
3. the posting of the 10 Commandments in schools.
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The Supreme Court justices stopped short of removing Bibles from schools and preventing individuals from engaging in private (non-school sanctioned) Bible reading and/or prayer on school grounds.

Engel v. Vitale (1962)

Engel v. Vitale is the 1962 landmark Supreme Court decision that ~struck down prayer in public schools.~

The case presented squarely the question of whether a public school could sanction classroom prayers at a time when America was increasingly pluralistic and secular. As the legal historian Lucas Powe wrote in his study of the Warren Court, "the religiously pluralistic society of the 1960s … [garnered] terrific support" for the Supreme Court's Establishment Clause decisions prior to Engel. But that did not mean the Engel was not controversial. It was anything but.

Engel is widely viewed as one of the most unpopular decisions in Supreme Court history. Rodney K. Smith wrote in his study on public prayer, and the Constitution, public furor with the Engel decision was "without equal" in any prior Supreme Court case.


School District of Abington Township, Pennsylvania v. Schempp (1963)

School District of Abington Township, Pennsylvania v. Schempp (1963) is a U.S. Supreme Court case holding that mandatory religious activity as part of a public school’s curriculum, such as Bible readings and the recitation of the Lord's Prayer, violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.


Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980)
U.S. Supreme Court
Decided November 17, 1980
449 U.S. 39

Held: A Kentucky statute requiring the posting of a copy of the ~Ten Commandments~, purchased with private contributions, on the wall of each public school classroom in the State has no secular legislative purpose, and therefore is unconstitutional as violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.


~Deuteronomy

First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
​

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The main reason was because Christians would not agree about what biblical doctrine should be taught.
For example, I do not object to the last six of the Ten Commandments (in Exod. 20:1-11 being posted in schools,
but I would want the Greatest Commandments (Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:35) to be posted too,
along with the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12).

Ever heard of the “American atheists ? “ founded by madalyn Murray ohare ? She’s part of the reason .

 

[Deuteronomy]

Madalyn Murray O’Hair (1919–1995), an atheist, filed several lawsuits that dealt with First Amendment separation of church and state issues. In 1960 she was a plaintiff in a lawsuit, Murray v. Curlett, that sought to prohibit Bible reading in the Baltimore public schools as an unconstitutional activity. The case was consolidated with Abington School District v. Schempp (1963) in which the Supreme Court extended the ban on prayer in public schools established in Engel v. Vitale (1962) to Bible reading and the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer.

I find it interesting that SCOTUS folded Murray v Curlett into the Abington v Schempp case, but in the end, it was Madalyn who got all the press.

I watched her show on TV every now and again, and I was amazed that she once named the Bible as one of her principal reasons for becoming an atheist, "because even the Bible says, 'there is no God'" .. e.g. Psalm 14:1.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Madalyn Murray O’Hair (1919–1995), an atheist, filed several lawsuits that dealt with First Amendment separation of church and state issues. In 1960 she was a plaintiff in a lawsuit, Murray v. Curlett, that sought to prohibit Bible reading in the Baltimore public schools as an unconstitutional activity. The case was consolidated with Abington School District v. Schempp (1963) in which the Supreme Court extended the ban on prayer in public schools established in Engel v. Vitale (1962) to Bible reading and the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer.

I find it interesting that SCOTUS folded Murray v Curlett into the Abington v Schempp case, but in the end, it was Madalyn who got all the press.

I watched her show on TV every now and again, and I was amazed that she once named the Bible as one of her principal reasons for becoming an atheist, "because even the Bible says, 'there is no God'" .. e.g. Psalm 14:1.

yeah I remember ….her speeches hurt my ears . She ended up disappearing with stolen money and her criminal son

 

[GWH]

The main reason was because Christians would not agree about what biblical doctrine should be taught.
For example, I do not object to the last six of the Ten Commandments (in Exod. 20:1-11 being posted in schools,
but I would want the Greatest Commandments (Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:35) to be posted too,
along with the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12).

The other side of the coin is removing ungodly and immoral doctrines from being taught in schools,
with the prime example being those who advocate/abet transgenderism.

 

[Chester]

It was removed because the girls will not give into sex. They know when they are being tempted. If your being tempted, you know it's from the devil.
They wanted their children to be able to have all the girls in all of the USA. It was for conquest, conquering them, making all the girls pregnant with their own. This makes their family of sinners bigger. More dominion, power and authority. And the more of them there are, the faster the increase. Ignorant girls are easy, you can get them to do anything.

I happen to know they sold their souls to the devil so they could have that right there. I know from the gift of prophecy.

The real issue is not the Bible being removed from public schools: if our country is to have freedom of religion, then our public institutions should not promote one religion over another. The public spaces/institutions should not promote religion, but neither should they keep students/people from being able to openly and freely practice their religion.

For myself, I believe the answer for my children is to either homeschool my children or sent them to a solid Christian School. If I send them to public school, I need to be sure that they have a solid foundation in Jesus Christ so that they can stand for Christ in a sometimes difficult and hostile environment.

It is not the role of the government to raise my children to be Christians.

 

[GWH]

The real issue is not the Bible being removed from public schools: if our country is to have freedom of religion, then our public institutions should not promote one religion over another. The public spaces/institutions should not promote religion, but neither should they keep students/people from being able to openly and freely practice their religion.

For myself, I believe the answer for my children is to either homeschool my children or sent them to a solid Christian School. If I send them to public school, I need to be sure that they have a solid foundation in Jesus Christ so that they can stand for Christ in a sometimes difficult and hostile environment.

It is not the role of the government to raise my children to be Christians.

Nor should schools promote immorality over family values.

 

[posthuman]

studying the book of Job was a required part of my world literature course in the liberal public university everyone seems to think has banned the Bible.

i wrote a term paper on it and gave a 30 minute lecture to the class.

i was applauded rather than ran out of town, as some seem to expect..?

 

[posthuman]

our public institutions should not promote one religion over another.

agree

so in the setting of a public school, the Bible should be freely discussed right next to the rig veda and the koran - - and no child should feel pressured not to be able to express and explore their own beliefs.

government that doesn't try to force the people to adopt certain religion doesn't need to enforce atheism - it absolutely should not oppress religion.
it just needs to allow open dialogue and speech.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

It was removed because the girls will not give into sex. They know when they are being tempted. If your being tempted, you know it's from the devil.
They wanted their children to be able to have all the girls in all of the USA. It was for conquest, conquering them, making all the girls pregnant with their own. This makes their family of sinners bigger. More dominion, power and authority. And the more of them there are, the faster the increase. Ignorant girls are easy, you can get them to do anything.

I happen to know they sold their souls to the devil so they could have that right there. I know from the gift of prophecy.

The separation of powers via the Constitution.
While Christian Bible study groups can gather in public schools ,typically the Bible cannot be taught exclusively. Unless, it is part of a world religions type curriculum.

 

[GWH]

The separation of powers via the Constitution.
While Christian Bible study groups can gather in public schools ,typically the Bible cannot be taught exclusively. Unless, it is part of a world religions type curriculum.

Yes, and I have the impression that nine times out of ten "Bible" refers to the OT, NOT to the NT Gospel.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Yes, and I have the impression that nine times out of ten "Bible" refers to the OT, NOT to the NT Gospel.

The school clubs I'm aware of study both.

 

[Brasspen]

@homwardbound "however this got removed, it happened as evil is always out and about in this world, that I see, I am no longer a part of, thanks to Father and Son for me to stand in. And am still learning truth over error in this world, from my Daddy, Father, PaPa
Evil seeks whomever it may devour and harm whomever it can, and does that to this day, even though Satan was defeated at that cross, in the risen Son, not in the death was Satan defeated.
We have the first born flesh and blood people that have chosen to not believe God and do their own things as righteous and are not righteous from God at all, even though might appear as is.
Yet God continues for now to allow and is waiting
Hebrews 1:1-4 for all flesh to be under is Son's risen feet"

Remember that also, The devil is like a roaring lion, without teeth. Going around looking for someone to devour. He can't eat anyone, unless they put themself in he's mouth.

@Chester I recommend homeschooling them, because of the drugs, and other corruptions. Your kids could also become scape goats for the school staff or other children. Or both.

@posthuman I agree with it too, because, what if the government decided to make the country something other than christian? Even witchcraft?

 

[GWH]

The school clubs I'm aware of study both.

Both-and is good. I was referring to the approved curriculum.

What has occurred in schools reminds me of what can occur in souls per Matt. 12:43-45.