The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

[Ouch]

You are a dishonest person I said, " You are making water more important than the Cross and the Blood of Jesus. Blasphemious.

So asking you questions make me dishonest?

One would think if a person says something and can't back it up with His word then it would be that person who is dishonest!!

 

[Wansvic]

After reading many of the Post given here about Jesus; I feel that I too, should make a statement.

It seems to This Writer, that Jesus is not understood very well. That is; Who He was sent to, and why? Did Jeus die on The Cross? Scripture states that He indeed, did!
Then leave that as IT is!
Continuing, I have much to say about Him.

First, When The Scriptures are read: In what is Today called, The New Testament, One may read This.
Who do men say I am?
Jesus one day in His travels; ask this of His disciples. some of Them said: Some say You are this One, others, That One. Then He turned to Peter and ask Him: "Who do You say I am"?

Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .

I have not seen this written on before; however, I am sure It has been.

My point here is THIS:

It being stated the Peter was correct about who Jesus was; brings up a very overlooked Topic! WHO IS JESUS ?
Peter said that He was the son of Man. What Man? See: Gen. 2:7.

Adam was a special man, not just a man of mankind. This is where The Quran speaks of This clearly. See Surah 2.

"Son of man, stand on Your feet, I am sending YOU to Isreal!
: Cain and Bel
From the above it is clearly seen who Jesus really was. He was Abel, resurrected! The One Cain killed. Cain being The Seed of Satan. This brings up another deep subject. Jehovah's seed, and Satan's seed: Cain and Abel! I will not enter into That here.

The point is This. "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD!

DeepSeeker

You are wrong about Peter's answer.

Note what Peter actually said: " And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven." Matt. 16:16-17

 

[Wansvic]

Jesus said, 'I must go' in John 14. But He said He would send a helper, another of the same kind, in the Greek translation.
I am not going to make up what I, nor you, can fully comprehend. Jesus did not lie.

Jesus said that this Comforter would be with you, in you, and come upon you in Chapter 14 of John. Jesus never said it was only him.
Yet it is him and the Father and the Spirit with distinction and personification, The will of the Father, the Obedient Son, and the Presence of God's Spirit.

Jesus actually said, "you know him for he dwelled WITH you."

The actual scripture. "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17

 

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1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 — One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

27. 1 Timothy 2:5 — For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

I don't see any of these scriptures that disprove Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God

The Adorable Godhead
1. Terms Defined
The terms "Trinity" and "persons" as related to the Godhead, while not found in the Scriptures, are words in harmony with Scripture, whereby we may convey to others our immediate understanding of the doctrine of Christ respecting the Being of God, as distinguished from "gods many and lords many." We therefore may speak with propriety of the Lord our God who is One Lord, as a trinity or as one Being of three persons, and still be absolutely scriptural.

• Matthew 28:19
• 2 Corinthians 13:14
• John 14:16-17

2. Distinction and Relationship in the Godhead
Christ taught a distinction of Persons in the Godhead which He expressed in specific terms of relationship, as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but that this distinction and relationship, as to its mode is inscrutable and incomprehensible, because unexplained.

• Luke 1:35
• 1 Corinthians 1:24
• Matthew 11:25-27
• Matthew 28:19
• 2 Corinthians 13:14
• 1 John 1:3-4

3. Unity of the One Being of Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Accordingly, therefore, there is that in the Father which constitutes him the Father and not the Son; there is that in the Son which constitutes Him the Son and not the Father; and there is that in the Holy Spirit which constitutes Him the Holy Spirit and not either the Father or the Son. Wherefore the Father is the Begetter, the Son is the Begotten, and the Holy Spirit is the one proceeding from the Father and the Son. Therefore, because these three persons in the Godhead are in a state of unity, there is but one Lord God Almighty and His name one.

• John 1:18
• John 15:26
• John 17:11
• John 17:21
• Zechariah 14:9

4. Identity and Cooperation in the Godhead
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are never identical as to Person; nor confused as to relation; nor divided in respect to the Godhead; nor opposed as to cooperation. The Son is in the Father and the Father is in the Son as to relationship. The Son is with the Father and the Father is with the Son, as to fellowship. The Father is not from the Son, but the Son is from the Father, as to authority. The Holy Spirit is from the Father and the Son proceeding, as to nature, relationship, cooperation and authority. Hence, neither Person in the Godhead either exists or works separately or independently of the others.

• John 5:17-30
• John 5:32
• John 5:37
• John 8:17,18

 

[Sipsey]

Just a side thought here but the Didache was actually one of the Books considered for the Canon and voted on. It was placed into the same category as the non Holy Spirit Inspired and agnostic sections. In other words, it's just someone's opinion and no one believes that the Disciples were in any way connected to such practices.

Also, the Catholic Church, hence Justin Martyr, always Baptized Matthew 28:19 but everyone else was Baptizing as we read in the Book of Acts. They even documented it.

Read last paragraph: Into Christ

I am not sure why many who apparently consider themselves Bible teachers cannot reconcile seemingly contradicting statements in Scripture.

In some early sources (especially Acts and early Christian missionary contexts), baptism is described as being done “in the name of Jesus Christ.” However, by the mid-2nd century, the Trinitarian formula had become the norm in orthodox communities, while “Jesus name only” baptisms were more typical of heretical or heterodox groups like the followers of Theodotus or certain Gnostic sects.

James3:1- 1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment.

2Cor. 3:6- Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

 

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Will anyone with sin enter Heaven?

LOL, what do you mean by Heaven will not all be judged? Where is the Judghemtn seat of Christ? In New York?

 

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So asking you questions make me dishonest?

One would think if a person says something and can't back it up with His word then it would be that person who is dishonest!!

again, don't be coy or act like a troll

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Thank you for including so much scripture--it sure speaks to the heart no matter how many times I hear it!

"The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God." Isaiah 40:3, Luke 3:3-4) Make straight in the desert a highway for who? FOR OUR GOD. Hallelujah, Thank you Jesus!

Amen brother for some of us scripture speaks clearly and nothing else will do to sway our knowledge God word will always speak to those who are seeking him no matter who shares it among his children !!

“The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We we’re speaking of John the other day
And I was trying to make a point about him clumsily but I remembered when you quoted this above here …

“In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judæa, and saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And this

“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me:

and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1-4‬ ‭

And then also this finally

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬

( After Jesus is transfigured they ask )

“And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elijah must first come? And he answered and told them, Elijah verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.

But I say unto you, That Elijah is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭9:11-13‬ ‭

“But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed.

Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭17:12-13‬ ‭

“But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee.

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:9-10, 12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

john seems to be the final prophet promised in the ot that would also immediately precede the appeering of the messiah and prepare the people for him by preaching the knowledge of remission of sins to israel

last two verses of the prophets

“I will send you Elijah the prophet “ he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”

a prophecy of johns birth

“But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1:13, 15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just some things I was trying to say at the time regarding John

 

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Jesus actually said, "you know him for he dwelled WITH you."

The actual scripture. "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17

and will be IN you

John `14:17

17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

so dishonest

 

[Wansvic]

If the Father exists, He is distinct from the Son. "I am my Father, are one." Greek is face-to-face. You can't be face-to-face with only one person. Jesus said there is the Father and even taught us to pray to the Father in Matthew chapter six and seven.

But you believe Jesus plays three roles of God. The Bible doesn't teach that. You don't fully understand the Divine nature of GOD. No one can. You are limited. Only pride and arrogance refuse to admit the truth. Pauls said we are looking through a window that is darkened.

1cor 13:2

"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

Limitation, we can only know in part that which is needed for :

1 appropriate worship
2. righteous living

Although it is not possible to know all things scripture does reveal many things. One such thing is, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. (2 Cor. 5:19)

Also Jesus said:
"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake." John 14:10-11

 

[Sipsey]

After reading many of the Post given here about Jesus; I feel that I too, should make a statement.

It seems to This Writer, that Jesus is not understood very well. That is; Who He was sent to, and why? Did Jeus die on The Cross? Scripture states that He indeed, did!
Then leave that as IT is!
Continuing, I have much to say about Him.

First, When The Scriptures are read: In what is Today called, The New Testament, One may read This.
Who do men say I am?
Jesus one day in His travels; ask this of His disciples. some of Them said: Some say You are this One, others, That One. Then He turned to Peter and ask Him: "Who do You say I am"?

Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .

I have not seen this written on before; however, I am sure It has been.

My point here is THIS:

It being stated the Peter was correct about who Jesus was; brings up a very overlooked Topic! WHO IS JESUS ?
Peter said that He was the son of Man. What Man? See: Gen. 2:7.

Adam was a special man, not just a man of mankind. This is where The Quran speaks of This clearly. See Surah 2.

"Son of man, stand on Your feet, I am sending YOU to Isreal!
: Cain and Bel
From the above it is clearly seen who Jesus really was. He was Abel, resurrected! The One Cain killed. Cain being The Seed of Satan. This brings up another deep subject. Jehovah's seed, and Satan's seed: Cain and Abel! I will not enter into That here.

The point is This. "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD!

DeepSeeker

So, you take the word of a corrupted text written many hundreds of years after the Bible to try and correct what is plainly written in the Scriptures?

 

[Wansvic]

I am not sure why many who apparently consider themselves Bible teachers cannot reconcile seemingly contradicting statements in Scripture.

In some early sources (especially Acts and early Christian missionary contexts), baptism is described as being done “in the name of Jesus Christ.” However, by the mid-2nd century, the Trinitarian formula had become the norm in orthodox communities, while “Jesus name only” baptisms were more typical of heretical or heterodox groups like the followers of Theodotus or certain Gnostic sects.

James3:1- 1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment.

2Cor. 3:6- Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The apostles obeyed Jesus' command in Matthew 28:19. They baptized in Jesus' name for in Jesus dwells all of the fulness of the Godhead. (Father, Son and Holy Ghost)

 

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Although it is not possible to know all things scripture does reveal many things. One such thing is, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. (2 Cor. 5:19)

Also Jesus said:
"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake." John 14:10-11

Again, I am speaking of the Divine Nature of God, who is the Father seen in the word of God( I provided scripture to show this). The Son, who is God, seen in the word of God, and The Holy Spirit, who is God, seen in the word of GOD, all three yet ONE.
You are not quoting the text fully.

 

[Ouch]

again, don't be coy or act like a troll

Just pointing out who is honest. That make me a trol? To you maybe.

 

[lrs68]

I am not sure why many who apparently consider themselves Bible teachers cannot reconcile seemingly contradicting statements in Scripture.

In some early sources (especially Acts and early Christian missionary contexts), baptism is described as being done “in the name of Jesus Christ.” However, by the mid-2nd century, the Trinitarian formula had become the norm in orthodox communities, while “Jesus name only” baptisms were more typical of heretical or heterodox groups like the followers of Theodotus or certain Gnostic sects.

James3:1- 1Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment.

2Cor. 3:6- Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

What actually does truly matter?

What we absolutely do read happened in the Book of Acts or some dribble hearsay that is oral tradition?

The Holy Spirit wrote the Book of Acts.

The Holy Spirit had nothing to do with man made oral traditions.

 

[Ouch]

LOL, what do you mean by Heaven will not all be judged? Where is the Judghemtn seat of Christ? In New York?

You don't even know if sin will enter Heaven?

If you don't even know that I can see why you don't know how to get rid of it.

Or do you? Do you know how to get rid of it, or just refuse to accept HIS word?

 

[DeepSeeker]

THIS BAPTISM THING!
When One studies the Bible scriptures correctly, They will see several things that show that Today's Christianity is WRONG! At least for the most part.

The above concerning water baptism for example. Where in the Writing of The Apostle Paul does he say to, Water Baptize?
HE does not. Paul's message was for all Believers in Gods' gospel of, The Kingdom Of God, to become a part OF IT.
Here again, is another place where Today's religion has clouded the truth of what The Bible scriptures teach.

Most who preach Today do not mention that there are Two gospels' ! The Gospel for Today is, The Gospel of, The Kingdom Of God! Read the scriptures on Pail's writings.

It is a fact, that These two gospel's are in The Bible! Why ? So, which One is for whom, When? What is the difference between Them?
These Two, show how the Two can not be mixed as They often are Today!
I leave off here; and let The Reader read about These Two Gospel's for Themselves.

DeepSeeker

 

[Ouch]

THIS BAPTISM THING!
When One studies the Bible scriptures correctly, They will see several things that show that Today's Christianity is WRONG! At least for the most part.

The above concerning water baptism for example. Where in the Writing of The Apostle Paul does he say to, Water Baptize?
HE does not. Paul's message was for all Believers in Gods' gospel of, The Kingdom Of God, to become a part OF IT.
Here again, is another place where Today's religion has clouded the truth of what The Bible scriptures teach.

Most who preach Today do not mention that there are Two gospels' ! The Gospel for Today is, The Gospel of, The Kingdom Of God! Read the scriptures on Pail's writings.

It is a fact, that These two gospel's are in The Bible! Why ? So, which One is for whom, When? What is the difference between Them?
These Two, show how the Two can not be mixed as They often are Today!
I leave off here; and let The Reader read about These Two Gospel's for Themselves.

DeepSeeker

There is ONLY one gospel. GOD is not the author of confusion.

After the book of Acts you not see how to be reborn because those are letters to church's with the foundation of the book of Acts.

Or maybe you can show me how Paul tells us how to be reborn?

Have you received the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues?? PAUL DID!!

Have you been baptized in JESUS name?? PAUL DID!!

Why does he speak of both in those letters?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Water did not replace the blood of Jesus. Anyone who teaches that doesn't know the word of God. God requires Blood for the removal of sin this is why the Scripture says in Hbrws 9:12-15

12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh,
14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

col 1:20
20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Eph 1:7

7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

You are making water more important than the Cross and the Blood of Jesus. Blasphemious.

i wouldn’t say acknowledging parts of doctrine and what they are for is blasphemous or they wouldn’t have taught it in scripture.

This is true

“for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭26:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is true also

“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This also is true doctrine of God

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,


and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is the Truth

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This Also true of those who get baptized in his name

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-4‬ ‭

truth john said this

“I indeed have baptized you with water:

but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭

also true Jesus said this

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5‬ ‭


then just look at what they did they baptized people in water for remission of sins in Jesus name ……

 

[Pilgrimshope]

THIS BAPTISM THING!
When One studies the Bible scriptures correctly, They will see several things that show that Today's Christianity is WRONG! At least for the most part.

The above concerning water baptism for example. Where in the Writing of The Apostle Paul does he say to, Water Baptize?
HE does not. Paul's message was for all Believers in Gods' gospel of, The Kingdom Of God, to become a part OF IT.
Here again, is another place where Today's religion has clouded the truth of what The Bible scriptures teach.

Most who preach Today do not mention that there are Two gospels' ! The Gospel for Today is, The Gospel of, The Kingdom Of God! Read the scriptures on Pail's writings.

It is a fact, that These two gospel's are in The Bible! Why ? So, which One is for whom, When? What is the difference between Them?
These Two, show how the Two can not be mixed as They often are Today!
I leave off here; and let The Reader read about These Two Gospel's for Themselves.

DeepSeeker

“It is a fact, that These two gospel's are in The Bible! Why ? “

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭