Does man have a freewill ?
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Yeah those two did sure and began to have to choose between the good and evil they now knew… indeed
about abel hadnt scripture calls him righteous and says he pleases god …..
But Enoch hadn’t , scripture says he pleased god and never saw death but was translated
“and Enoch walked with God ( that’s gods will ) after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”
Genesis 5:22-
“By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.”
Hebrews 11:5
i must be ignoring too much scriptire to grasp it but i think noah hadn’t parted gods will
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”
Genesis 6:9 KJV
even though Adam and Eve sinned Noah hadn’t” parted gods will “
“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; ( that was gods will what he told Noah to do Noah did and was saved ) by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”( that’s the righteousness Paul teaches about )
Hebrews 11:7 KJV
Noah was righteous and walked with god says the scriptire in genesis 6 he hadn’t departed from Gods Will because of what Adam did …..he is called perfect and righteous and obeyed everything God told him and was saved because of that faith. Says the bible anyways
You seem to think all mankind is condemned because another person sinned. I disagree I think the Bible teaches this
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4
And tbis
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
as long as we reject the truth our minds will never change and come to it
We all have to choose so we should probably start thinking we’re capable of choosing as long as we pretend we can’t we never will it’s really the only thing restraining us we refuse to believe the things god says that we don’t already think …..for instance some don’t think this do they ignore and refuse to acknowledge it so repentance falls to the wayside
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:6-11 NIV
i believe that and it conflicts with a chosen group pre destined regardless of anything they do but just gods secret will not according to his word like the repeated teaching of mankind’s judgement
this jidgement is repeated by the law the prophets the gospel Jesus his apostles the epistles of Paul and Peter even revelation. what god has done to save all humanity is send the gospel out calling us to believe it . That’s life to mortals ……which we all are because we have all sinned .
about abel hadnt scripture calls him righteous and says he pleases god …..
But Enoch hadn’t , scripture says he pleased god and never saw death but was translated
“and Enoch walked with God ( that’s gods will ) after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”
Genesis 5:22-
“By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.”
Hebrews 11:5
i must be ignoring too much scriptire to grasp it but i think noah hadn’t parted gods will
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”
Genesis 6:9 KJV
even though Adam and Eve sinned Noah hadn’t” parted gods will “
“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; ( that was gods will what he told Noah to do Noah did and was saved ) by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”( that’s the righteousness Paul teaches about )
Hebrews 11:7 KJV
Noah was righteous and walked with god says the scriptire in genesis 6 he hadn’t departed from Gods Will because of what Adam did …..he is called perfect and righteous and obeyed everything God told him and was saved because of that faith. Says the bible anyways
You seem to think all mankind is condemned because another person sinned. I disagree I think the Bible teaches this
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4
And tbis
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
as long as we reject the truth our minds will never change and come to it
We all have to choose so we should probably start thinking we’re capable of choosing as long as we pretend we can’t we never will it’s really the only thing restraining us we refuse to believe the things god says that we don’t already think …..for instance some don’t think this do they ignore and refuse to acknowledge it so repentance falls to the wayside
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:6-11 NIV
i believe that and it conflicts with a chosen group pre destined regardless of anything they do but just gods secret will not according to his word like the repeated teaching of mankind’s judgement
this jidgement is repeated by the law the prophets the gospel Jesus his apostles the epistles of Paul and Peter even revelation. what god has done to save all humanity is send the gospel out calling us to believe it . That’s life to mortals ……which we all are because we have all sinned .
He usually does not have one. Just being sarcastic because he has no biblical comeback.
"in another chatroom he made the statement " my mind is made up"
In other words. His mind can not be changed. He has determined he has all truth and everyone else is wrong. and if you want to come to Jesus you better believe as he does.
The symptom of this is exactly what he is doing. He talks down to everyone. because everyone is below him
"in another chatroom he made the statement " my mind is made up"
In other words. His mind can not be changed. He has determined he has all truth and everyone else is wrong. and if you want to come to Jesus you better believe as he does.
The symptom of this is exactly what he is doing. He talks down to everyone. because everyone is below him
It does not say that in the passage.
It says they saw, and they believed. and once they did this. They were assured they would never hunger, never thirst. Live forever. have eternal life.
other passages say they have passed from death to life.
John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Notice just like in John 3 and being born again ( a second time) it happens because one has heard the word. and actually chewed on the word and repented and came to faith.
we can not add words to the word which are not there.. that changes the meaning of the words written
It says they saw, and they believed. and once they did this. They were assured they would never hunger, never thirst. Live forever. have eternal life.
other passages say they have passed from death to life.
John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Notice just like in John 3 and being born again ( a second time) it happens because one has heard the word. and actually chewed on the word and repented and came to faith.
we can not add words to the word which are not there.. that changes the meaning of the words written
John 6: 53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you
the greek word here it trogo. It literally means to gnaw and chew. Not to just taste, ot take a sip. But to gnaw and chew on the word. (it is the spirit who gives life. the words I speak are spirit and life)
I did not add to the word. I just translated the word.
They had not come to faith yet. Thats why they asked. what must we do.
This is one of the most nonsensical question I have ever been asked
who said an unsaved person can do anything apart from Christ?
Certainly not I.
the greek word here it trogo. It literally means to gnaw and chew. Not to just taste, ot take a sip. But to gnaw and chew on the word. (it is the spirit who gives life. the words I speak are spirit and life)
I did not add to the word. I just translated the word.
They had not come to faith yet. Thats why they asked. what must we do.
This is one of the most nonsensical question I have ever been asked
who said an unsaved person can do anything apart from Christ?
Certainly not I.
Mans will isnt free from our sin nature, we are servants of sin naturally Jn 8:34
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Folks we are all by nature sinners, so we commit sin, hence we are servants or slaves of sins The word servant doulos means slave. Jesus uses the present tense is esti being actually a slave of sin, and this is even applying to very religious people ! We cant just exercise our freewill and stop being a slave to sin, it takes actual liberation.
Jesus told some more people Jn 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Jesus tells these people they will do the lust of their father the devil, they dont have a freewill choice not to do it. " ye will do" is present tense indicative, its certain that is all they will be doing, they are slaves to sin.
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Folks we are all by nature sinners, so we commit sin, hence we are servants or slaves of sins The word servant doulos means slave. Jesus uses the present tense is esti being actually a slave of sin, and this is even applying to very religious people ! We cant just exercise our freewill and stop being a slave to sin, it takes actual liberation.
Jesus told some more people Jn 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Jesus tells these people they will do the lust of their father the devil, they dont have a freewill choice not to do it. " ye will do" is present tense indicative, its certain that is all they will be doing, they are slaves to sin.
Scripture says those given to Jesus by God WILL come to Him. Doesn't really look like there is wiggle room, there.
John 6 verse 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
John 6 verse 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
Actually that verse is talking about becoming saved and then leaving God like these Verses explain.
4 For as touching those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come,
6 and then fell away, it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance
Hence the portion: it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance
They've repented once to be saved but now can never repent again!
There's also a Reason given that they were called the enemies of God. God said each one represents a type of sin. So God eliminated the sins that were keeping the Hebrew People from inheriting their Promised Land.
Here's a question for you: How did those other people become a type of sin that opposes God [outside of being born into a sin nature]?
Here's a question for you: How did those other people become a type of sin that opposes God [outside of being born into a sin nature]?
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