Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles

[ZNP]

Were the Iranian people given a vote on this, was there a poll conducted?
"No," you say.

Well then please drop the nonsense facade of this being for their benefit.

"Don't you feel better now?" -- Mark Levin

As someone who has received the great honor of being called "Chicken Little" on this forum for my constant warning of the Day of the Lord being at hand, and one who sings the same refrain as Amos "Prepare to meet your God" I do feel better. Thank you Mark Levin. Yep, we are one day closer to that glorious appearing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

[Dude653]

Were the Iranian people given a vote on this, was there a poll conducted?
"No," you say.

Well then please drop the nonsense facade of this being for their benefit.

There was a poll, 90% of Iranians want a regime change

 

[HeIsHere]

And then there are facts...




1 . Arabs occupy senior positions on the Israeli police force, the Knesset and the Israeli judiciary.

2. An Arab judge, sentenced an ex-Israeli president to prison for seven years.

3.In Israel, citizens are given equal opportunity in the workplace and educational department as evidenced by the fact that there are Palestinians and Arabs in Israeli universities who both study and teach as professors.

4.The Hadassah Medical Organization which operates two hospitals in Jerusalem, was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize due to its push for peace in the Middle East and its equal treatment of Palestinians and Israelis.

5.Arabs have equal voting rights. Israeli Arabs have their own political parties in the Knesset -- some of whom are Israel's harshest critics.

6.Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.

7.Arabs have the right to move freely, vote, obtain an education, work in prominent positions, receive world-class health care, own land. (etc)

8. The freest Arabic media in the Middle East is in Israel.

9. There are no restrictions for Arabs or special privileges for Jews to lease private land in Israel, whereas Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the PA in the west bank, has stated that “any Arab who sells land to a Jew should be put to death.”

10. All religions in Israel are free to practice. There are Muslims, Christians, Druze, Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus living in Israel. There are mosques, churches and temples to accommodate people of all faiths. This is another example of tolerance and pluralism within Jewish society.

11. People leave and enter Gaza all the time. Prior to October 7, thousands of people left Gaza every day, crossing into Israel to work at jobs that paid them five times more than they could earn in Gaza.

12. “In the past 15 years a quarter of a million young Palestinians left for abroad.” In 2022, over 15,000 of them who lived abroad (having apparently escaped the “prison”) willingly returned to it to celebrate the feast of Eid al-Adha.Ju

13. The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has been running a series on “Gaza Before October 7” refuting the “concentration camp” and “open-air prison” claims with pictures and videos.

The first two episodes follow Palestinian “influencer” Yousef Alhelou as he travels around Gaza, showing off the top spots for tourists, including a gold market. Subsequent episodes include an Al-Jazeera feature of the economic boom in Gaza, Turkish television reports on the markets of Gaza, and various Arab media outlets covering the many sporting events in Gaza.

Just a few facts, more can be added. You're spreading propaganda, period.

On this one point..

Arabs have equal voting rights. Israeli Arabs have their own political parties in the Knesset -- some of whom are Israel's harshest critics.

The statement is false.

While Israeli Arabs have the right to vote and some have been elected to the Knesset, they do not have equal rights in all aspects of life, and their political parties face unique challenges.

The rest is "State PR" so obvious.

Reality

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937161537237508337

 

[HeIsHere]

There was a poll, 90% of Iranians want a regime change

Conducted the USA? Sure

 

[Dude653]

Conducted the USA? Sure

Go over there and live with them for a while. Report back to us how it works out for you

 

[HeIsHere]

Go over there and live with them for a while. Report back to us how it works out for you

Not an argument.

 

[HeIsHere]

Let the game of manufacturing consent begin....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1936953416947044499

 

[ZNP]

Not an argument.

I agree, your reaction to the regime cannot possibly be seen as how typical Iranians see it, they are intelligent, they have common sense, and by their standards what they see as moderates Americans see as conservatives and who knows what some wackadoodle from Canada sees them as. No, if Dude wants to do that send over a moderate American that the Iranians can identify with, send over Donald Trump and see what he thinks.

 

[Dude653]

Not an argument.

My point is if you were to go over there for yourself you would see how people are treated over there because they are under the thumb of a fascist regime.
They would happily murder you and me both

 

[HeIsHere]

My point is if you were to go over there for yourself you would see how people are treated over there because they are under the thumb of a fascist regime.
They would happily murder you and me both

If someone is advocating for the sacrifice of Iranian people for freedom for a political agenda, especially from the safety of

one's own home NOT in Iran, than that person is no better or different than the regime they claim to hate.

Furthermore woman, Christians and Jewish Iranians do not want be pawns in a political agenda.

Wanting regime change in another state seems like something and authoritarian fascist regime would do.

Lastly, to be against one theocratic authoritarian regime and not against another theocratic regime who is conducting a genocide seems

hypocritical.

The real icing on the cake is when people are mad at Iranians killing Iranians but not made when the government of Israel kills
Iranians.

 

[HeIsHere]

I'm pretty sure International Law prohibited terrorism, but that's out now I guess, 'cause US seems just to have said it doesn't recognize International Law.

Don't commit the logical fallacy that just because we're speaking against one group of terrorists I therefore defend another.

We're not talking about refugees, but for the record, I don't support or believe in unchecked or illegal immigration, and I never have. If we really were all against it, we would have put those who were advocating for it on trial for treason 50 years ago when it started.

Again, that's because of corrupt Western governments. Easy divorce laws, social security for broken families at the expense of ordinary families, feminism, promotion of birth control, permission for abortion etc. I don't agree with all of these things, but it's not the fault of Muslims that Western populations are in decline.

It's overhyped, and always has been. I would much sooner an Earth where the government of every country was afraid of attacking another country, than the one we have where the greedy seem to prey upon the poor with impunity. Similar to the second amendment, but for countries.

The USA was instrumental in the development of those international norms and laws.
I suppose now looking back we can say it was all for show.

 

[Dude653]

If someone is advocating for the sacrifice of Iranian people for freedom for a political agenda, especially from the safety of

one's own home NOT in Iran, than that person is no better or different than the regime they claim to hate.

Furthermore woman, Christians and Jewish Iranians do not want be pawns in a political agenda.

Wanting regime change in another state seems like something and authoritarian fascist regime would do.

Lastly, to be against one theocratic authoritarian regime and not against another theocratic regime who is conducting a genocide seems

hypocritical.

The real icing on the cake is when people are mad at Iranians killing Iranians but not made when the government of Israel kills
Iranians.

You need to pass me some of whatever you're smoking if you think that wanting freedom from a fascist regime is in turn being fascist.

 

[ZNP]

If someone is advocating for the sacrifice of Iranian people for freedom for a political agenda, especially from the safety of one's own home NOT in Iran, than that person is no better or different than the regime they claim to hate.

I think you are conflating Iranian people with the IRGC. The IRGC at best represents 30% of the people. Now I agree that someone in the safety of their own home in Canada is not in a position to tell Iran what to do. I don't agree that the same applies to someone in the safety of their own home in Israel. On the one hand Iranians should have the full authority to decide what is best for Iran, however, if what they decide impacts their neighbors it is foolish to think that those neighbors are not going to get involved.

Furthermore woman, Christians and Jewish Iranians do not want be pawns in a political agenda.

Well that is the problem right there. If you don't want to be bothered with how your government is run and how your tax dollars are spent you can be sure that the person you don't want making those decisions will be. I would argue that women, Christian and Jewish Iranians need to wake up and take responsibility otherwise the ones they would not want to be responsible will be.

Wanting regime change in another state seems like something and authoritarian fascist regime would do.

Perhaps, but it is also something that a nation who is threatened repeatedly by this regime of wiping them off the face of the map would want to do.

 

[Texasgal]

Again you alter what I said. You ignore that Iran is a terrorist state and is the cause of unrest in the Middle East. Other nations desire peace and prosperity. That's why Trump went to the Middle East before bombing.
Big sigh of relief in the Middle East.

I believe the leaders of the ME countries are hoping Israel will put an end to Iran’s nuclear program. In fact I believe Russia and China want that too.

Iran is a terrorist state in every meaning of the word.

 

[Cameron143]

I believe the leaders of the ME countries are hoping Israel will put an end to Iran’s nuclear program. In fact I believe Russia and China want that too.

Iran is a terrorist state in every meaning of the word.

Agree. And regime change is necessary, but it needs to come from the Iranian people. Perhaps they are ready, but if the current regime is allowed to continue, we will be back to this same place in a generation. Hope this isn't the case.

 

[NightTwister]

I think you have the wrong state as the source of conflict. Oh right they are the most moral army and the one with precision targeting.
Oh right it is war, that is why children are shot in the head by snipers.

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That was proven to be a lie. BBC and all of the others that carried that story had to retract it. It's your turn to do so.

 

[Gideon300]

If we're going to argue about who funds which terrorists, we need to look at who funds the CIA and Mossad. Who assassinated the serving president of the US? Who usurped the rightful government of Iran in the first place to steal its oil? Who funded the Epstein pedophiles so it would have blackmail material over US (and other) politicians?

I care more about governments which quietly overthrow the legitimate governments around the world, than people who chant threats because that's all they're able to do. Sticks and stones. Are we adults or children?

What dreamworld do you live in? Iran does not just chant death to America. The regime starts by killing Christians and dissenters in its own country. It arms and funds Hezbollah, the Houthi and Hamas. Hamas and Hezbollah are in effect the foreign legions of Iran. Iran has been at war with the West since 1979.

No government of any nation is entirely righteous. Just ask yourself where you would rather live, Tehran or any American city. If you pick Tehran, I recommend you go live there. You could report back to us, if you lived long enough.

You do know that Iran's version of Shia requires the destruction of Israel? You do know that Iran has attacked Israel with hundreds of missiles prior to Israel's latest offensive? Even North Korea is more sane than the religious nut jobs that rule Iran. If you want WW3, simply allow Iran to manufacture nuclear weapons.

 

[Gideon300]

I keep looking, using search engines and all that to find Walter R. the Prophet in the Bible, but so far every search comes up
No Results Found.

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None so blind.....................

 

[Gideon300]

Were the Iranian people given a vote on this, was there a poll conducted?
"No," you say.

Well then please drop the nonsense facade of this being for their benefit.

You should get into comedy.

Tell me how people get to vote when they are murdered for showing dissent or even for not following a dress code to the letter? Iran is a totalitarian regime.

If you are so impressed with it, go live there. If you survive, you could tell us about the wonderful freedom of choice that the Iranian people enjoy.

 

[PennEd]

I think you have the wrong state as the source of conflict. Oh right they are the most moral army and the one with precision targeting.
Oh right it is war, that is why children are shot in the head by snipers.

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Is there no bottom too low for this America and Israel hating person?