Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles

[SonJudgment]

Well Dude that is not what I stated, that's okay, let me try again.

A nation (USA) forcing "regime change" on another nation, without the consent of the people in that nation is acting in an authoritarian manner.

Hmm, aren't you the same person who denounced the actions of Russia invading Ukraine, Ukraine being a sovereign nation?
So sovereignty only matters some of the time.

What I am also trying to figure out is why you support DT on this, you trust his words ... your country is being hollowed out to support these military industrial complex foreign wars which is only making the USA look less credible.

Terrorism was not born in a vacuum.

I had to laugh a little bit at the idea that Dude is now MAGA lol. Dude is right on this though, he did say months ago Iran needed to catch some smoke and now they have. You should ask yourself how come Iran's myriad fellow islamic culture neighbors aren't coming to help them? Is it not because Iran's regime has made themselves a major problem to all their neighbors? How the literal pagan cult that thinks their leader is talking to a boy that fell down a well in 800s AD took the once high civilization and relatively cosmopolitan culture of Persia and destroyed it both internally and made enemies out of all their neighbors all around themselves externally. Look their "retaliation" is basically to attack Qatar, and Qatar is basically the most friendly of all the Gulf States towards them, that should really tell you alot about the pariah state and the failed state that their regime has led them to.

 

[Dude653]

I had to laugh a little bit at the idea that Dude is now MAGA lol. Dude is right on this though, he did say months ago Iran needed to catch some smoke and now they have. You should ask yourself how come Iran's myriad fellow islamic culture neighbors aren't coming to help them? Is it not because Iran's regime has made themselves a major problem to all their neighbors? How the literal pagan cult that thinks their leader is talking to a boy that fell down a well in 800s AD took the once high civilization and relatively cosmopolitan culture of Persia and destroyed it both internally and made enemies out of all their neighbors all around themselves externally. Look their "retaliation" is basically to attack Qatar, and Qatar is basically the most friendly of all the Gulf States towards them, that should really tell you alot about the pariah state and the failed state that their regime has led them to.

Nah, I'm still not a fan of the great orange one. But even a broken clock is right twice a day

 

[SonJudgment]

Nah, I'm still not a fan of the great orange one. But even a broken clock is right twice a day

I'd of course disagree and just point this as Trump being a masterclass politician once again, and also major merit here to Rubio and Hegseth as well. Nevertheless it did kinda humor me the accusation that you have gone MAGA, lol, welcome to the bro squad I guess lol.

 

[HeIsHere]

How the literal pagan cult that thinks their leader is talking to a boy that fell down a well in 800s AD took the once high civilization and relatively cosmopolitan culture of Persia and destroyed it both internally and made enemies out of all their neighbors all around themselves externally.

That was the USA that did the destroying.

 

[SonJudgment]

That was the USA that did the destroying.

 

[Dude653]

That was the USA that did the destroying.

I'm not denying that America has done some shady stuff like invading the wrong country after 9/11, but as long as there are country still living in the 14th century with access to 21st century weapons then America is always going to have a presence in the Middle East

 

[HeIsHere]

How about you go further back when they had a democratically elected leader and they UK and the USA decided they did not like his domestic policies and through covert operations had him overthrown and the Shah installed.

That worked out so well.

 

[HeIsHere]

I'm not denying that America has done some shady stuff like invading the wrong country after 9/11, but as long as there are country still living in the 14th century with access to 21st century weapons then America is always going to have a presence in the Middle East

Well I hate to break it you, but the UK and the USA, back when oil was a more vital commodity basically went in and destroyed a thriving nation.

People in other cultures do have long memories, from one generation to the next.

 

[SonJudgment]

How about you go further back when they had a democratically elected leader and they UK and the USA decided they did not like his domestic policies and through covert operations had him overthrown and the Shah installed.

That worked out so well.

Well if we play that game then I have no intention to stop at the unfortunately defunct Qajar Dynasty, I'm going all the way back to the biggest gigaChad Achaemenid that I can.

 

[HeIsHere]

Well if we play that game then I have no intention to stop at the unfortunately defunct Qajar Dynasty, I'm going all the way back to the biggest gigaChad Achaemenid that I can.

USA wasn't a nation then... good try.

 

[Texasgal]

lol

I’m sorry, was that a valid argument?

 

[SonJudgment]

For more modern times though it might seem unlikely, actually the Crown Prince of the Pahlavi dynasty returning to Iran to form a new regime might be the most ideal solution. Consider the spiritually powerful theme here in tandem with the sublime prophecy of Malachi 4. Here we have a rightful son, the last direct male of the dynasty of Pahlavi that has the potential to redeem his father's name and his family honor and make a deep reconciliation with wounds from the past that still very much have torn Persia asunder. He only has daughters so he does not even have to return as a Shah, he could simply help form a new republic and partake in it. Internally he could separate the Mahdi cult from the political control of the nation without any need for a great bloodbath or a foreign occupation which frankly that's where it's leading them if they keep the course they're on. Pahlavi could also very much redeem Iran's extremely poor foreign relations and pariah status, consider not only is he the heir to the Pahlavi dynasty, but his mother, one of the few strong female leaders in recent Middle East history is actually of the now defunct Egyptian royal family too. So that is not just improving relations with the West and Israel, that's also improving relations with Iran's Middle East neighbors who are not great fans of them at the moment either.

 

[PennEd]

Wow! Twisted and messed up understanding of the Olivet Discourses.

You should start with the QUESTIONS, Plural, the Apostles ask Him in Matthew 24.

 

[SonJudgment]

For more modern times though it might seem unlikely, actually the Crown Prince of the Pahlavi dynasty returning to Iran to form a new regime might be the most ideal solution. Consider the spiritually powerful theme here in tandem with the sublime prophecy of Malachi 4. Here we have a rightful son, the last direct male of the dynasty of Pahlavi that has the potential to redeem his father's name and his family honor and make a deep reconciliation with wounds from the past that still very much have torn Persia asunder. He only has daughters so he does not even have to return as a Shah, he could simply help form a new republic and partake in it. Internally he could separate the Mahdi cult from the political control of the nation without any need for a great bloodbath or a foreign occupation which frankly that's where it's leading them if they keep the course they're on. Pahlavi could also very much redeem Iran's extremely poor foreign relations and pariah status, consider not only is he the heir to the Pahlavi dynasty, but his mother, one of the few strong female leaders in recent Middle East history is actually of the now defunct Egyptian royal family too. So that is not just improving relations with the West and Israel, that's also improving relations with Iran's Middle East neighbors who are not great fans of them at the moment either.

Also my mistake the Shah's first wife was Egyptian royalty, not Farah Diba whom was his third wife and crowned Empress of Persia and is the mother of the current Crown Prince. Nevertheless in exile the Shah and Farah Diba were well received in Egypt, so nevertheless the improvement in foreign relations would be guaranteed compared to where they are at now with a regime that has basically hit rock bottom.

 

[Gideon300]

Well Dude that is not what I stated, that's okay, let me try again.

A nation (USA) forcing "regime change" on another nation, without the consent of the people in that nation is acting in an authoritarian manner.

Hmm, aren't you the same person who denounced the actions of Russia invading Ukraine, Ukraine being a sovereign nation?
So sovereignty only matters some of the time.

What I am also trying to figure out is why you support DT on this, you trust his words ... your country is being hollowed out to support these military industrial complex foreign wars which is only making the USA look less credible.

Terrorism was not born in a vacuum.

First, America is not forcing regime change on Iran. America had an excuse to turn Iran into a car park when Iran attacked a US base. it hasn't happened. Second, Trump is telling Israel not to retaliate to a fatal missile attack. How many times do you have to get it wrong before you shut up about things you know nothing about? Of course, it's your right to be wrong. Even fool seems wise when he is silent, not that I'm calling you a fool. Just ignorant.

 

[Gideon300]

Not an argument, an emotionally laden response.

Just sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. It's all I could be bothered with.

 

[PennEd]

Actually, I can plainly hear the words of Christ Jesus when HE plainly stated 33 times when YOU see these things.. speaking to His disciples.

Of course, people will employ all kinds of hermeneutical gymnastics, but I highly doubt that pleases Him.

Wow! Twisted and messed up understanding of the Olivet Discourses.

You should start with the QUESTIONS, Plural, the Apostles ask Him in Matthew 24.

 

[ZNP]

You say the corniest stuff.

Says the guy who looks like a giant peanut

 

[HeIsHere]

I’m sorry, was that a valid argument?

Not really, but I did chuckle at that one particular statement, so I thought I would let you know.
I gather it was not meant to be funny.

 

[HeIsHere]

First, America is not forcing regime change on Iran. America had an excuse to turn Iran into a car park when Iran attacked a US base. it hasn't happened. Second, Trump is telling Israel not to retaliate to a fatal missile attack. How many times do you have to get it wrong before you shut up about things you know nothing about? Of course, it's your right to be wrong. Even fool seems wise when he is silent, not that I'm calling you a fool. Just ignorant.

USA already did a regime change, it did not well in the end.

Ad hom. means you have no argument.