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Blain

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I posted it above post 63. Start believing Jesus' words

But I say unto you, That in this place is [one] greater than the temple. Matthew 12:6​
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yes something greater than the temple was indeedd there, the temple was a house of worship and only meant for the priests but the kingdom that Jesus was bringing is greater than that and open for all. he doesn't call himself the temple.
 
lrs68

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Which happened at the cross, the final burnt offering
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The burnt offering continued until the Temple was physically destroyed but the prophesy Daniel speaks about the end time and Jesus was at the beginning of the Age and spoke about the ending which is now.
 
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Blain said:
yes something greater than the temple was indeedd there, the temple was a house of worship and only meant for the priests but the kingdom that Jesus was bringing is greater than that and open for all. he doesn't call himself the temple.
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He is/was the temple of God, which is simply the dwelling place of God. If we are the temple and we are his body, how can he not be the temple?
 
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lrs68 said:
The burnt offering continued until the Temple was physically destroyed but the prophesy Daniel speaks about the end time and Jesus was at the beginning of the Age and spoke about the ending which is now.
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Yeah but it doesn't mean anything to God; it only means something to unbelievers. Christ is the final and eternal burnt offering.
 
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Blain said:
But lets say he is the third temple how is he an abomination?
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Where is this idea coming from? I never said or implied Christ is the abomination. I said the abomination was committed upon him, the temple of God.

There is no 3rd temple of God, unless you are referring to Christ. Any temple that men might build will not be the temple of God. It will be the temple of satan

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. John 4:20-24​
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Blain

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Where is this idea coming from? I never said or implied Christ is the abomination. I said the abomination was committed upon him, the temple of God.

There is no 3rd temple of God, unless you are referring to Christ. Any temple that men might build will not be the temple of God. It will be the temple of satan

Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. John 4:20-24​
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Firstly the scriptures call it the abomination of desolation note the words the and of it does not say the bomination that was done to cause desolation now does it? secondly the verses you provided have nothing to to do with this conversation it speaks of a type of worship not a place of worship
 
Blain

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Daniel says the abomination of desolation will be setup ot placed, Jesus said it will stand and Paul says the man of sin will sit. So which is it lol?
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Do you think there are two different ones? the abomination that causes desolation cannot happen twice can it?
 
lrs68

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Daniel says the abomination of desolation will be setup ot placed, Jesus said it will stand and Paul says the man of sin will sit. So which is it lol?
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It's like a child will be born of a virgin, a child will be born in Bethlehem, a child will be God with us.

And they all are different but explained one person, Jesus
 
CS1

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Jesus was and is the temple of God.

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. John 2:19-21​
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where is the kingdom of GOD if not in you who is Jesus ?
 
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CS1 said:
I wanted to start a thread on the current state of our world.
Israel is preparing to hit Iran in a major way—something that could make the current attacks seem small.

America is backing Israel, and the call to Iran is clear: complete surrender.

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This isn’t just politics—it’s prophetic.
Events like this put many biblical prophecies in the limelight, especially Ezekiel 38.

Here’s what it says:

"Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal..."
Ezek. 38:2

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God tells Ezekiel that He will bring Gog and a vast coalition of nations against Israel. Among them?

  • Persia (modern Iran)
  • Cush
  • Put
  • Gomer
  • Beth Togarmah
“I will put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army...”
(Ezekiel 38:4)

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Is this war about to happen?

Some say Ezekiel 38 takes place during the Tribulation.
But I believe it may actually precede it—and could even be the event that ushers in a temporary world peace.


Here’s why

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1 Thessalonians 5:3-6 (KJV):

“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them... and they shall not escape.”

Could it be that this coming war—perhaps Israel striking Iran—will trigger global cries for peace?

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With Saudi Arabia and other Muslim nations warming toward Israel (via the Abraham Accords), a new alliance may emerge.

Out of that, I believe we could see:

  • Permission to rebuild the Temple
  • The rise of a charismatic world leader
  • A false peace

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Then sudden destruction.

This fits the pattern Jesus described:


  • Wars and rumors of wars
  • Birth pangs
  • Deception
  • Tribulation
    (Matthew 24)
But the Church is called to watch and be ready.

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I truly believe the coming of the Lord is near.
The rapture of the Church could happen at any time.
We are not in darkness—this day should not overtake us like a thief (1 Thess. 5:4).

So… what do YOU think?

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This isn’t about dogma or debate.
I’m not looking for agreement.
I want your biblical perspective and heart opinion.

Is Ezekiel 38 about to unfold before our eyes?
Are we watching the setup for the return of Christ?


Let’s discuss. ⬇
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Two things seem certain: first, Israel will be at peace, assured that her enemies cannot harm her. Second, America will cease to be a world power that could rescue Israel when the battle starts. I do not believe that the current events are the final chapter, so to speak.

It seems obvious to me that a nuclear war will start. I don't know anything else that could cause elements to be destroyed by fire. (2 Peter 3:10)

Much of what calls itself Christian is outward only. Statistically, around 4% of church attenders are in fact born again. I believe only the born again will be raptured. So those left behind will have a choice to repent and get real or to accept the Antichrist. Those who choose Christ will suffer greatly. How much better to be real now.

For now, Israel and Iran have quit attacking each other. This could change if Iran restarts its nuclear program, as I expect it will. When? That I do not know.

What would reduce America to military impotence? Perhaps a natural disaster or a series of them. Perhaps a preemptive strike by China or Russia. America is swamped with immigrants who could be ready to sabotage military installations and vital infrastructure.

I do not claim any special insight or to be a prophet. It's just my opinion.
 
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CS1 said:
where is the kingdom of GOD if not in you who is Jesus ?
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The Kingdom of God is not within us. Jesus said that the kingdom of God is in our midst. (Luke 17:21). It is the place where God's will is done and the power and authority of Christ is exercised over Satan and his evil host.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Zero evidence. Scripture clearly states that the Gog/Magog war happens 1000 years after Christ returns. False teacher Cyrus Scoffield popularized the idea that it happens before Christ returns.
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Some interpret Ezekiel 38 to be a war before the Millennial age and Ezekiel 39 is another war near the end of the Millennial age because the descriptions are a bit different so as to sound like two different wars.

I'm not sure myself so I'm considering that interpretation of two wars instead of just one.


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CS1 said:
where is the kingdom of GOD if not in you who is Jesus ?
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The Kingdom of God is not within us. Jesus said that the kingdom of God is in our midst. (Luke 17:21). It is the place where God's will is done and the power and authority of Christ is exercised over Satan and his evil host.
 
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CS1 said:
where is the kingdom of GOD if not in you who is Jesus ?
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The Kingdom of God is not within us. Jesus said that the kingdom of God is in our midst. (Luke 17:21). It is the place where God's will is done and the power and authority of Christ is exercised over Satan and his evil host.
 
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