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Every woke, left and progressive idea will always come full circle.

The woke, left and progressives will be shocked and left in the very shackles they want to put everyone else in.
Sadly when their benefactor,George Soros, dies his son will continue his mission.
 
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It’s intriguing to watch the anti western sentiments at play in this thread. I’m a product of western culture and I will defend these values and not the values of cultures that are chanting about how gruesome deaths they are wishing upon us.
Therein lies the reason why the empire is in decline......

it seeks to silence criticism by those who are sounding the alarm and has very stealthy supplanted the TRUE traditional

western American values with the Neo-Con McCain - Pompeo - Bush - Graham et. al., war mongering values.

I guess we can add it to the list....
  1. War is Peace
  2. Freedom is slavery
  3. Ignorance is strength
  4. Traditonal western values are Anti-western values

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy"
John Quincy Adams 1821
 

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BRICS would likely plunge the 1st world nations into 2nd or 3rd world status. I'm hoping that a second industrial revolution will pull our countries out of that fate.
What we should be hoping does not happen is the the dystopian surveillance state peppered with some Christian lingo being planned by the characters in Silicon Valley.
 

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Therein lies the reason why the empire is in decline......

it seeks to silence criticism by those who are sounding the alarm and has very stealthy supplanted the TRUE traditional

western American values with the Neo-Con McCain - Pompeo - Bush - Graham et. al., war mongering values.

I guess we can add it to the list....
  1. War is Peace
  2. Freedom is slavery
  3. Ignorance is strength
  4. Traditonal western values are Anti-western values

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy"
John Quincy Adams 1821
You are delusional, no one has sought to silence you.
 

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What we should be hoping does not happen is the the dystopian surveillance state peppered with some Christian lingo being planned by the characters in Silicon Valley.
That would be stupid. We know they are working on a surveillance state. Every single "smart phone" is watching you, soon every car will be watching you, there are about 1 million CTV cameras in London watching you. That works out to 1,600 cameras per square mile. NSA can listen to every single phone call, read every text, read every email, and we also know that the AntiChrist will come to power with this surveillance capability. We know that Elon Musk is covering the entire earth with a network of satellites like a spiders web that will mean there is no corner of the earth that is not under surveillance. We also know that the Antichrist means "instead of Christ" or "in place of Christ" so we know they will have a corrupted Bible trying to sell this counterfeit to the whole world.

So why are you advocating that we all bury our heads in the sand and pretend like that is not going to happen?

We are not ignorant of Satan's devices, why would you want people to be ignorant?
 

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That would be stupid. We know they are working on a surveillance state. Every single "smart phone" is watching you, soon every car will be watching you, there are about 1 million CTV cameras in London watching you. That works out to 1,600 cameras per square mile. NSA can listen to every single phone call, read every text, read every email, and we also know that the AntiChrist will come to power with this surveillance capability. We know that Elon Musk is covering the entire earth with a network of satellites like a spiders web that will mean there is no corner of the earth that is not under surveillance. We also know that the Antichrist means "instead of Christ" or "in place of Christ" so we know they will have a corrupted Bible trying to sell this counterfeit to the whole world.

So why are you advocating that we all bury our heads in the sand and pretend like that is not going to happen?

We are not ignorant of Satan's devices, why would you want people to be ignorant?
And your point is?
 
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Therein lies the reason why the empire is in decline......

it seeks to silence criticism by those who are sounding the alarm and has very stealthy supplanted the TRUE traditional

western American values with the Neo-Con McCain - Pompeo - Bush - Graham et. al., war mongering values.

I guess we can add it to the list....
  1. War is Peace
  2. Freedom is slavery
  3. Ignorance is strength
  4. Traditonal western values are Anti-western values

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy"
John Quincy Adams 1821
Everyone thinks they are woke after having read 1984
 

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We do not need to be hoping that God's will will not be done. It will be done. We should align ourselves with God's will. We are living in the age of grace, people have an opportunity to receive or reject the gospel. But during the tribulation no one escapes, there is no gray area, either you take the mark of the beast or you refuse and stand with the Lord Jesus. In order to accomplish that there must be a surveillance state for the whole earth. This is the end of the exam, pencils down, turn in your papers.
 

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We do not need to be hoping that God's will will not be done. It will be done. We should align ourselves with God's will. We are living in the age of grace, people have an opportunity to receive or reject the gospel. But during the tribulation no one escapes, there is no gray area, either you take the mark of the beast or you refuse and stand with the Lord Jesus. In order to accomplish that there must be a surveillance state for the whole earth. This is the end of the exam, pencils down, turn in your papers.
So bring it on is your position then?
 

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So bring it on is your position then?
My position is that God the Father's name be hallowed, that His kingdom would come, and that His will would be done.

Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.

Proverbs 25:1 These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out.

This is an excellent way to study the Bible at first. Do a hand copy of the Bible. When you copy something by hand it involves much more of your brain than simply reading it. All kings were required in the OT to make a copy of the Bible for themselves (I don't know how many did, but then look at how few of the kings were actually godly men who expressed a righteous God).

2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

There are glorious things hidden in the word just waiting for someone to search them out.

3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable. 4 Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer.

This is what happens during the tribulation. The Lord is removing the dross from the silver.

5 Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.

So then how do you truly take away the wicked without snaring the innocent? The wicked try to frame people. They lie and they try to hide guilt.

6 Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king, and stand not in the place of great men: 7 For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; than that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen.

The goal is to be found worthy at the time of the rapture. At that point if you are called up that is far better than walking around as some great man of God for years only to be put lower before all at the time of the rapture.
 
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Therein lies the reason why the empire is in decline......

it seeks to silence criticism by those who are sounding the alarm and has very stealthy supplanted the TRUE traditional

western American values with the Neo-Con McCain - Pompeo - Bush - Graham et. al., war mongering values.

I guess we can add it to the list....
  1. War is Peace
  2. Freedom is slavery
  3. Ignorance is strength
  4. Traditonal western values are Anti-western values

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy"
John Quincy Adams 1821
Neocon has a specific meaning it is a ex liberal or democrat who has changed sides of the aisle advocating for stronger interventionism.

Here is AI's definition of a Neocon or Neoconservative............................

Neoconservative: A political movement that began in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly pacifist Democratic Party and the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s. Neoconservatives typically advocate for the unilateral promotion of democracy and interventionism in international relations, along with a militaristic and realist philosophy of "peace through strength." They are known for opposing communism and radical politics.2 This movement had its intellectual roots in the magazine Commentary, edited by Norman Podhoretz.7 Prominent figures associated with neoconservatism include Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and others who played significant roles in the Bush administration's foreign policy.

You are naming people who were republicans as neocons and that is not the meaning or it's correct usage.

I know you are just repeating what you have read in a book or heard someone say inside your bubble. However, you really have to start to understand the terms you are using and throwing around. Otherwise you are going to continue to fail to have a grasp on the situation as you currently display.
 

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Neocon has a specific meaning it is a ex liberal or democrat who has changed sides of the aisle advocating for stronger interventionism.

Here is AI's definition of a Neocon or Neoconservative............................

Neoconservative: A political movement that began in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly pacifist Democratic Party and the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s. Neoconservatives typically advocate for the unilateral promotion of democracy and interventionism in international relations, along with a militaristic and realist philosophy of "peace through strength." They are known for opposing communism and radical politics.2 This movement had its intellectual roots in the magazine Commentary, edited by Norman Podhoretz.7 Prominent figures associated with neoconservatism include Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and others who played significant roles in the Bush administration's foreign policy.

You are naming people who were republicans as neocons and that is not the meaning or it's correct usage.

I know you are just repeating what you have read in a book or heard someone say inside your bubble. However, you really have to start to understand the terms you are using and throwing around. Otherwise you are going to continue to fail to have a grasp on the situation as you currently display.

Since you are using AI, let us see what Wikipedia states..

A neoconservative, Graham is a defense hawk and strong advocate for aggressive interventionist foreign policy.[2] Initially, he was known for his willingness to work with Democrats on issues like campaign finance reform, a ban on waterboarding, cap and trade, immigration reform, and judicial nominees.[3][4][5][6][7][8] He criticized the Tea Party movement, arguing for a more inclusive Republican Party.[7][9][10][11][12][13]

Do you have a bubble?
 

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My position is that God the Father's name be hallowed, that His kingdom would come, and that His will would be done.

Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.

Proverbs 25:1 These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out.

This is an excellent way to study the Bible at first. Do a hand copy of the Bible. When you copy something by hand it involves much more of your brain than simply reading it. All kings were required in the OT to make a copy of the Bible for themselves (I don't know how many did, but then look at how few of the kings were actually godly men who expressed a righteous God).

2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

There are glorious things hidden in the word just waiting for someone to search them out.

3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable. 4 Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer.

This is what happens during the tribulation. The Lord is removing the dross from the silver.

5 Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.

So then how do you truly take away the wicked without snaring the innocent? The wicked try to frame people. They lie and they try to hide guilt.

6 Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king, and stand not in the place of great men: 7 For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; than that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen.

The goal is to be found worthy at the time of the rapture. At that point if you are called up that is far better than walking around as some great man of God for years only to be put lower before all at the time of the rapture.

I stick with Covenant Theology... it is the correct interpretation of scripture.