Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[GWH]

Afraid not, almost certain you are still trolling as you persist in prolonging the life of a post which you and your friends have made a temple of trolling, not truth and discernment.

I f you want a genuine discussion, create a post of your own, i don't believe, let alone trust you currently.

Well, what you are doing is the opposite of discussion,
but any objective observer cannot say I didn't try,
however, it takes two to tango. Happy trails!

 

[LifelongLearner]

Well, what you are doing is the opposite of discussion,
but any objective observer cannot say I didn't try,
however, it takes two to tango. Happy trails!

No, any objective observer would say you're a troll who instead of apologising and desisting, refuses to desist and blatantly lies rather than accept responsibility.

 

[GWH]

No, any objective observer would say you're a troll who instead of apologising and desisting, refuses to desist and blatantly lies rather than accept responsibility.

Projection.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Projection.

Delusional, you're despicable, all you have to do is stop trolling on my post. Christian isn't a label i'd apply to you, based on the behaviour i've seen.

 

[GWH]

Delusional, you're despicable, all you have to do is stop trolling on my post. Christian isn't a label i'd apply to you, based on the behaviour i've seen.

Well, anyone can see that you are an expert persecutor with ad hominems!
(Matt. 5:10-12)

 

[HeIsHere]

Delusional, you're despicable, all you have to do is stop trolling on my post. Christian isn't a label i'd apply to you, based on the behaviour i've seen.

I am thinking that just because a person starts a thread that does not mean they are the moderator of the thread.
Anyone can post their view and it does not have to agree with the OP.

 

[HeIsHere]

Well, you are an expert persecutor with ad hominems!
(Matt. 5:10-12)

I really have never viewed any of your posts as trolling at all... a rather strange accusation.

 

[GWH]

I am thinking that just because a person starts a thread that does not mean they are the moderator of the thread.
Anyone can post their view and it does not have to agree with the OP.

That is certainly the case on the threads I started!

 

[studier]

Here’s a good example of the dynamic

“And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

( this is thier will not Gods Will )


And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

( that term “imagine to do “ ties to thier Will what they are manifesting in thier minds and hearts )


Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth:

( God has now intervened because he had foreknowledge of mankind’s evils ahead so he then stops thier Will from being manifested )


and they left off to build the city.

( notice thier Will isn’t being controlled but instead he’s stopping the outcome ofnthier imaginations by intervention not by talk ng thier eiol from them it’s corrupted but it’s still thiers )


Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭11:1, 3-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just what they feared happened what they were trying to avoid

“let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. “

“and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.”

we can see how Gods Will works but also that man’s Will is rebelling against his it isn’t that anyone’s controlling man apart from thier own selves even God isn’t exercising “ control “ over them he’s simply stopped ng the progress of thier corrupt will by intervention.

man’s will needs to come back in line with Gods Will but as long as we pretend it’s not of ourselves tbat we’re in rebellion and it’s some mystery man controlling our Will we’re never going to get it

Good thoughts.

God also put sentries to keep man away from the Tree of Life after He ejected them. As you say, stopping (guarding) against their misuse of their will.

 

[HeIsHere]

That is certainly the case on the threads I started!

When has free will meant being able to control all outcomes?

Do you know of anyone who has argued this position (apart from the OP)?

 

[studier]

When has free will meant being able to control all outcomes?

Do you know of anyone who has argued this position (apart from the OP)?

Philosophical debate into absurdity.

 

[Komentaja]

No, any objective observer would say you're a troll who instead of apologising and desisting, refuses to desist and blatantly lies rather than accept responsibility.

Objective observer here, GWH is one of the most friendly and consistent people who post here.

 

[LifelongLearner]

I am thinking that just because a person starts a thread that does not mean they are the moderator of the thread.
Anyone can post their view and it does not have to agree with the OP.

Posting a view and trolling aren't even related, you are far from objective and participate in bullying. The trolling has been about intimidating me into not posting an opinion that conflicts with those trolling my post.

You are beyond hypocritical, i have been far too patient and tolerant, shouldn't have allowed things to go this far. This must be reported to CC, it would be taken seriously on many secular sites, it would be beyond disappointing if a Christian site doesn't do so.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Objective observer here, GWH is one of the most friendly and consistent people who post here.

Self declared objectivity, i don't know you aren't but have not seen any examples of you being so as yet. However, the comments on the post display trolling and bullying from your hero, then others trying to hide the truth with rubbish too. However, i collated a lot of evidence previously and have quite a few links to relevant new sections. You lot are a very poor example of Christians, however, your being on this site doesn't mean you are.

 

[HeIsHere]

Objective observer here, GWH is one of the most friendly and consistent people who post here.

Yes, I would agree.

 

[studier]

It's nice to see there is some love on this thread - cats & TULIPS - so a panel in both your honor.

Beyond that, man, is this a weird thread! So many trolls!

 

[HeIsHere]

Philosophical debate into absurdity.

Seems so.

 

[LifelongLearner]

Yes, I would agree.

You are agreeing with him and his friends, intimidating, bullying and spamming/trolling the post of someone who has a different opinion. You are a hypocrite too, complicit in what is pretty evil behaviour.

 

[Komentaja]

Self declared objectivity, i don't know you aren't but have not seen any examples of you being so as yet. However, the comments on the post display trolling and bullying from your hero, then others trying to hide the truth with rubbish too. However, i collated a lot of evidence previously and have quite a few links to relevant new sections. You lot are a very poor example of Christians, however, your being on this site doesn't mean you are.

It says you are saved for 5 months and you are already condemnding everyone left and right on a forum. Don't make the journey too short. We are not your enemies

 

[HeIsHere]

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It's nice to see there is some love on this thread - cats & TULIPS - so a panel in both your honor.

Beyond that, man, is this a weird thread! So many trolls!

LOL...

I guess we are all trolls if @GWH is a troll!