Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?
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The Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world ... all descendants of Adam:
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
no "false witness" by me ... just revealing the truth of Scripture ... which you reject ... hmmm
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John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
no "false witness" by me ... just revealing the truth of Scripture ... which you reject ... hmmm
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you keep saying that ... which completely contradicts what you stated in Post 21:
in your futile attempt to construct your house of cards, you have replaced one erroneous card with another card which is just as erroneous as the first.
rolleyes ... now you're espousing universalism because all descendants of Adam are under judgment unto condemnation.
The ones who "end up with Justification of life" are the ones who receive [lambanō] abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness ... the ones who do not suppress the truth in unrighteousness when truth is revealed to them – the ones who actively take hold [lambanō] as revealed in Rom 5:17.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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those are your words early on in the thread and when your error was pointed out to you, it finally dawned on you and you then changed your statement from "those under condemnation cant be Justified" to your current claim "the entire passage Rom 5:1-21 is solely about the elect" (or words to that effect).in your futile attempt to construct your house of cards, you have replaced one erroneous card with another card which is just as erroneous as the first.
rolleyes ... now you're espousing universalism because all descendants of Adam are under judgment unto condemnation.
The ones who "end up with Justification of life" are the ones who receive [lambanō] abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness ... the ones who do not suppress the truth in unrighteousness when truth is revealed to them – the ones who actively take hold [lambanō] as revealed in Rom 5:17.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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so then, according to you, only "Gods elect" were under condemnation ... which means the "non-elect" were not under condemnation for which they needed justification.
Quit twisting Scripture in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your dogma. Your dogma must be brought into alignment with what is actually written in Scripture.
Romans 5:17-18 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. ) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The word "receive" in Rom 5:17 is translated from the Greek word lambanō which means actively lay hold of to take or receive, to lay hold by aggressively (actively) accepting what is available ... emphasizes the volition (assertiveness) of the receiver - HELPS Word-studies.
In Rom 5:18, the first all men refers to all humanity ... all descendants of Adam. The second all men refers to that part of the first all men who lambanō ... they actively lay hold of ... they do not reject the gift of righteousness ... by grace through faith the justified ones are reborn into the Last Adam, Christ.
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Quit twisting Scripture in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your dogma. Your dogma must be brought into alignment with what is actually written in Scripture.
Romans 5:17-18 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. ) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The word "receive" in Rom 5:17 is translated from the Greek word lambanō which means actively lay hold of to take or receive, to lay hold by aggressively (actively) accepting what is available ... emphasizes the volition (assertiveness) of the receiver - HELPS Word-studies.
In Rom 5:18, the first all men refers to all humanity ... all descendants of Adam. The second all men refers to that part of the first all men who lambanō ... they actively lay hold of ... they do not reject the gift of righteousness ... by grace through faith the justified ones are reborn into the Last Adam, Christ.
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No I didnt say that, so now you bearing false witness. Im saying Rom 5 is about the elect and their experience first in Adam as he was their head and then in Christ as He was their Head. Whether the non elect were under condemnation or not, which they are, they are not the focus in Rom 5 only the elect.
No I didnt say that, so now you bearing false witness. Im saying Rom 5 is about the elect and their experience first in Adam as he was their head and then in Christ as He was their Head. Whether the non elect were under condemnation or not, which they are, they are not the focus in Rom 5 only the elect.
