Could there be animal sacrifices in the millenium, but no sin offerings?

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Hakawaka

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I recently ran across this argument that the animal sacrifices during the millennium were to be for giving thanks and things of that sort, but never for sin.

Anyone of you believe this and why? I can see this being the case with Zech. 14:16 and Jeremiah 33:18 but the Ezekiel passages in chapters 40-48 clearly mention sin offerings.
 
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I recently ran across this argument that the animal sacrifices during the millennium were to be for giving thanks and things of that sort, but never for sin.

Anyone of you believe this and why? I can see this being the case with Zech. 14:16 and Jeremiah 33:18 but the Ezekiel passages in chapters 40-48 clearly mention sin offerings.
I don't. I believe all that fulfilled its purpose and has been put away for something far better. I think going back to this old system is/would be, a slap in the face of Jesus. The temple, the sacrifices, the law, Israel, the Jews, these all had a purpose, they were all pointing to something, to someone. Jesus. They all served and serve the purpose they were created for, to make way for he King to bring His kingdom into the world, to make THE way for men and God to be reconciled. Guess what? I'm in His kingdom right now. I've been born again, spiritually resurrected and reconciled to Him, to God the Spirit, made all knew to proclaim this and point everyone I can to Him. This kingdom isn't one you point to and say "there it is", nor is it one that will ever come to an end. My King has been granted ALL authority in heaven, on earth, and is seated on His throne at the right hand of the Father and must reign until EVERY enemy has been made a footstool for His feet.

So with all need and purpose for any animal sacrifices fulfilled in Jesus, and the temple gone and destroyed with the AGE that is was given for, I see any of this looking backwards and going back to things that already served their purpose as a deceptive distraction from building His kingdom now, today.
 

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I recently ran across this argument that the animal sacrifices during the millennium were to be for giving thanks and things of that sort, but never for sin.

Anyone of you believe this and why? I can see this being the case with Zech. 14:16 and Jeremiah 33:18 but the Ezekiel passages in chapters 40-48 clearly mention sin offerings.
There definitely will be human sins to be dealt with during the millennium.
Darkness, sin and evil are only eliminated with finality at the re-creation post GWT judgment.
 
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Obviously Jeremiah 33:18 is speaking figuratively because the Melchizedek priesthood has superceded the Levitical priesthood. It's not possible for animal sacrifices to take away sin, so what's the point? Giving thanks? No thanks
 
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Thinking animal sacrifices now or in the millenium is something God would countenance is the perverse fruit of an unbelieving mind.

To what purpose [is] the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? Isaiah 1:11-12
 

Melach

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There definitely will be human sins to be dealt with during the millennium.
Darkness, sin and evil are only eliminated with finality at the re-creation post GWT judgment.
luckily those happen at the second coming of Christ according to the bible. which means millenium is what when?

2 peter 3:10-13
matthew 25:31-46 and many more
 

Melach

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Obviously Jeremiah 33:18 is speaking figuratively because the Melchizedek priesthood has superceded the Levitical priesthood. It's not possible for animal sacrifices to take away sin, so what's the point? Giving thanks? No thanks
are you premillennial? you know its kind of standard for them to believe in animal sacrifices during the millennium. they claim to take the passages literally, yet spiritualize them as "memorials" instead of sin offerings, which is what the text actually says. the really dumb ones may admit that its actual offerings to deal with sin, but those are the type who have already trampled on the blood of Christ and have no gripes about blaspheming further.

i like a lot of what you got to post, would you like to tell me what you believe regarding the end times?
 
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are you premillennial?
i like a lot of what you got to post, would you like to tell me what you believe regarding the end times?
Basically,

The 1st trumpet sounding marks the last 3.5 years (or approximately), pre-wrath return + resurrection in clouds, bowls of wrath, poured out on earth (the lord hands out popcorn for the show), Lord + saints touchdown on a destroyed Jerusalem for final battle (Armageddon), beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, 1000 year reign over the nations, satan loosed + war of Gog/Magog, final judgement, new earth
 

Melach

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Basically,

The 1st trumpet sounding marks the last 3.5 years (or approximately), pre-wrath return + resurrection in clouds, bowls of wrath, poured out on earth (the lord hands out popcorn for the show), Lord + saints touchdown on a destroyed Jerusalem for final battle (Armageddon), beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, 1000 year reign over the nations, satan loosed + war of Gog/Magog, final judgement, new earth
okay so historic premill. but you said you dont believe in animal sacrifices during the millennium? how do you see the verses quoted in the OP?

Zechariah 14:21 for example seems to mention that after the Lord touches down on mount of olives, there will be sacrifices
 

Webers.Home

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The religious structure of the theocratic kingdom predicted in the old
testament is as confusing and as complex as it is controversial.

For one thing, it appears to me that the Diaspora's clearance to enter the
kingdom will be based upon the quality of their compliance with the
covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy. (Ezek 20:33-38)

It also appears to me that Jesus plans to revive the covenant's Passover.
(Luke 22:15-16)

For another: there will be children born in the kingdom with the so-called
fallen nature (Rev 20:7-10). Until such a time as they undergo the birth Jesus
spoke of at John 3:3-8, their association with God will be on a very different
basis than that of a Christian's association with God.
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okay so historic premill. but you said you dont believe in animal sacrifices during the millennium? how do you see the verses quoted in the OP?

Zechariah 14:21 for example seems to mention that after the Lord touches down on mount of olives, there will be sacrifices
Anything referring to animal sacrifices is figurative language for the eternal sacrifice of Christ.

IMO Zechariah 14:5 has already been fulfilled. Christ walked on the Mt of Olives many times. The part about it splitting in two is a translation based on a corrupted text. The true version of that verse is in the LXX which describes an earthquake blocking up the Kidron Valley from the kings' gardens to Azal Valley, which has already happened. I am very knowledgable on this subject
 
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I wonder what was/is the purpose of animals being completely burned as an offering to God. Is there a passage in the Bible that states orders from God to completely burn animals as an action to prove loyalty and obedience?
 
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I wonder what was/is the purpose of animals being completely burned as an offering to God. Is there a passage in the Bible that states orders from God to completely burn animals as an action to prove loyalty and obedience?
The symbology is the complete destruction of sin by fire on earth and the ascent of what the bible calls a sweet savor to God. In other words the ascending smoke was witness to God that sin had been destroyed. Parts of sin offerings were burned (the rest eaten by priests) but burnt offerings consumed the whole animal and were to be done continually 24/7 symbolizing eternity, ie never ending. All of this, of course, typifies Christ who was put to death on earth, but rose from the dead to ascend to heaven to present his blood to the father to prove that sin had been paid for and to be the eternal high priest interceding on mankind's behalf.

And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. Ephesians 5:2
 

Melach

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Anything referring to animal sacrifices is figurative language for the eternal sacrifice of Christ.

IMO Zechariah 14:5 has already been fulfilled. Christ walked on the Mt of Olives many times. The part about it splitting in two is a translation based on a corrupted text. The true version of that verse is in the LXX which describes an earthquake blocking up the Kidron Valley from the kings' gardens to Azal Valley, which has already happened. I am very knowledgable on this subject
very good. the type of premillennialism i can rock with. this was the belief held by the early church as well. future millennium, but no sacrifices. justin martyr, irenaeus.........
 

Melach

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The religious structure of the theocratic kingdom predicted in the old
testament is as confusing and as complex as it is controversial.


For one thing, it appears to me that the Diaspora's clearance to enter the
kingdom will be based upon the quality of their compliance with the
covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy. (Ezek 20:33-38)


It also appears to me that Jesus plans to revive the covenant's Passover.
(Luke 22:15-16)


For another: there will be children born in the kingdom with the so-called
fallen nature (Rev 20:7-10). Until such a time as they undergo the birth Jesus
spoke of at John 3:3-8, their association with God will be on a very different
basis than that of a Christian's association with God.
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but the people who havetn been born again yet today are still working on the new covenant basis. God regenerates them and they dont go aroun sacrificing animals before or after. why would the covenant of moses ever come back when the new testament is clear its done? that covenant is null and void.
 
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I recently ran across this argument that the animal sacrifices during the millennium were to be for giving thanks and things of that sort, but never for sin.

Anyone of you believe this and why? I can see this being the case with Zech. 14:16 and Jeremiah 33:18 but the Ezekiel passages in chapters 40-48 clearly mention sin offerings.

ANSWER

There are several passages in the Old Testament that clearly indicate animal sacrifice will be re-instituted during the millennial kingdom. Some passages mention it in passing as the topic of the millennial kingdom is discussed, passages like Isaiah 56:6-8; Zechariah 14:16; and Jeremiah 33:15-18.

For me I see, there will be a time when someone, tries to take over God, resets up the Temple of God to be God and fool as many people as can and will do that. This man, person will be very convincing and will re-set up the Temple and restart Sacrifices, This part of Prophecy is in Matthew 24, this convinces me in that even the elect might be fooled, but will not be fooled.
Elect are people like the disciples and Paul born out of due time. And all that God reveals this to, as to all that sincerely believe God too.
However it takes places no one knows but God himself. As Evil did not know what would happen when Christ came here to earth to take away sin from Daddy's, (God's) sight for us all to believe personally, between Son and Father as Won (One) for our sins are by Son taken out of the way, forever in Father's sight once done for everyone. So we, I at least, Then can begin new in seeing new and growing new daily over time, not quitting belief to what is now done by Son, no more sacrificing. We are forgiven by God Father in Son, that is now risen to give new life to each person in belief to Father and Son as Won for them too, at least me.
I do think we are near, and how it will be or when the day will be I do not know, yet it will happen as I see happening Evil is pissed and has little time left before the final time and the lake of fire to be in place.
However, I see to continue in trust to God and remain willing to to God to continue learning from God alone and then share and hear others as well, and not be anyone better than anyone else.
 

birdie

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I recently ran across this argument that the animal sacrifices during the millennium were to be for giving thanks and things of that sort, but never for sin.

Anyone of you believe this and why? I can see this being the case with Zech. 14:16 and Jeremiah 33:18 but the Ezekiel passages in chapters 40-48 clearly mention sin offerings.
Thanks Hakawaka, for you question about whether animal sacrifices would be reinstituted during the millenium.

First of all, in my opinion, the millenium is not an occurance in the sense that some groups of men claim. We read about the scripture pertaining to this idea of the millenium here:

"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. "

This is talking about all who are true believers in Christ. When someone believes the gospel they become blessed and they become holy. That's the what the verse says. They have part in the first resurrection, meaning they have part in Christ's resurrection from the cross and subsequent grave. He was the first to be resurrected from the grave. That was the first resurrection. The born again believer is able to be given spiritual new life in Christ because Jesus was the first to resurrect and to send the Holy Spirit. The believer has a part in this, because the Holy Spirit was able to be sent due to this resurrection. The second death has no power over them, meaning that they will not perish with unbelievers. Their first death was when they were a part of the fallen human race and could expect a physical death. But because they were brought back to spiritual life by the Lord and his gospel, they will go to be with the Lord should their physical body die. They will not go to hell, so to speak, as unbelievers. There is no second death after the natural death for believers. Once a person is born again by believing the good news, they become part of a royal priesthood, so to speak, and they rule and reign spiritually with Christ, being seated in heavenly places with him, even as they go about their 'ordinary' lives, so to speak (and for lack of a better term). Since they have come to believe, the time that they are now living in Christ, with him in the spirit, is said to be a figurative thousand years. This does not mean a literal thousand years but is a term describing the complete or full time. A true believer never really dies after being born again, although their physical body may grow old and die from whatever means. Who they actually are never really dies from the point of believing in Christ. They are a part of Christ.

"he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? "

"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. "

The second idea that you mention, the idea that of animal sacrifices are continuing, as a part of the Lord's plan for the future, is, in my opinion, not the case. Whenever the mention of animal sacrifices occurs in a future sense in the Bible it most likely simply parable language for Christ's sacrifice. Christ's sacrifice will always be available to cover sins. The animal sacrifice will, in that parable sense, never be taken away for believers. There is a place in Daniel where sacrifice will be cut off, but this is most likely referring to Christ's sacrifice not being available to a particular group of unsaved persons (or possibly alluding even to Christ sacrifice on the cross). It is not talking about religious rituals that will be conducted or suddenly stopped, like the slaughter of a physical animal. That is my opinion.
 

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There definitely will be human sins to be dealt with during the millennium.
Darkness, sin and evil are only eliminated with finality at the re-creation post GWT judgment.
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