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or that those bombs are Gods way of restoring his people according to his word
Men interpret "peace" as the absence of war. Yet, since Jesus is the Prince of Peace, true peace is when all are brought under His rule.

So, war and foment of hatred are the enemy's ways to deceive the people: creating the problem and then providing the cure. Many will say "Yay! Peace!" but it will be a world-version of peace. Not peace provided by the Prince of Peace.

"In a time of peace he will destroy many, and he will even stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be broken off, but not by human hands."
 
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Thank God for His Grace and mercy.

Seems that you are blind to His Grace and mercy.......YOU killed the Lord Jesus Christ.
“And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:33-34‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Strangely it’s when he was killed by his chosen congregation that forgiveness came forth for all people … including them

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins.

( that’s what the gospel is )

The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. ( John the Baptist )

…. and the glory of the LORD ( Jesus )?shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. ( the word )

The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. ( everlasting gospel ) O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:1-3, 5-6, 8-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

They need to accept this part

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight. John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: and there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1-4, 9-11, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But they are still looking here for it to happen

“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.


Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We need the word of the Lord the gospel but “ Jews “ are founded upon the law of Moses of you remove or there’s no such thing as a “ Jew “ there’s always been Hebrews since God divided the nations and after Jacob wrestled with God and was named israel and had his children , there’s been Israelites or “ the children of isreal. Still today there are Israelites but those who become Jews through Judaism rether than chrirtians through Christ are going to never be able to see and hear the new testsment that belongs to them first and everyone else after


They still are trying to fulfill the old covenant and waiting for the messiah to someday come remove thier sins and fill them with his spirit and give them new hearts but ……that’s what the gospel is the fulfillment of all those promises in the ot made to them and also concerning all people of the earth in Abraham the father of many nations

if they accept the gospel and Jesus as the messiah they’ll be saved by the covenant God promised them in the ot after they broke his covenant with them

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭

they aren’t able to understand the old eas fulfilled in Christ and the gospel and thier old covenant became a curse until they repent and believe the gospel they are in a very tight spot with God what Jesus did was also done for them like everyone else

“And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭49:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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We do understand God's plan for humanity and war is not part of it. The land doesn't need to be cleansed, human hearts do and Jesus has showed us the way, which excludes warfare except against the flesh. Warfare is the way of the world

From whence [come] wars and fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume [it] upon your lusts. Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:1-4
If war is not part of it why is it the second horse?
 
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Men interpret "peace" as the absence of war. Yet, since Jesus is the Prince of Peace, true peace is when all are brought under His rule.

So, war and foment of hatred are the enemy's ways to deceive the people: creating the problem and then providing the cure. Many will say "Yay! Peace!" but it will be a world-version of peace. Not peace provided by the Prince of Peace.

"In a time of peace he will destroy many, and he will even stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be broken off, but not by human hands."
Yes the enemy will be a servant of war and. BRinger of destruction it says he will worship war and cause destruction and even kill the faithful on earth at times

In the ot God used war to bring Israel into thier land and protect it and do many thing with them but this is under a testement where believers are called to accuse , judge and stone other believers for many different things they might do . In a world before Jesus shined the light of truth

The reason Christians would be persecuted is the doctrine Jesus taught them to be peaceful and not take eye for eye and blow for blow but to offer your enemy the other cheek rather than your fist or blade .

meat is truly an advent of mankind’s violence towards one another and sonin foreknowledge God tells us ahead of time there’s going to always be ears and rhetoric of war and violence ect . Man made war a part of things in our greed for power and rule God will now use it to bring about our demise of our own doing by his Will to bring the world inder tbat rule of Christ after all is burnt up that doesn’t come under
 
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Alexander the great and the romans were prophecied about before they ever happened in Daniel. You have to have a war for an empire to take over the world. The conquest of Joshua. The babylonian captivity. Wars with the philistines throughout David's time. All the different countries that invaded Isreal as God's punishment in the old testament. God will has and does use war to execute his plan.
 
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Amen.. true then and true now, it does not take a certain land mass to make it so!
you know the temple mound in Jerusalem where the dome of the rock is now on the ceiling in huge lettering it says “ God absolutely has no son “


Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. ( the father has a son)

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:21, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We can worship and fellowship with God no matter where we are or who we are if we believe the gospel in Madagascar or Spain or Russia Mexico ( Canada even 😅) South America even chrirtians living in jeruswlem in modern day Israel can worship God but there’s no need for a man made temple he doesn’t dwell in them he dwells in us , and goes with us anywhere we are that old stuff was just a pattern for what he would do in the gospel
 
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Alexander the great and the romans were prophecied about before they ever happened in Daniel. You have to have a war for an empire to take over the world. The conquest of Joshua. The babylonian captivity. Wars with the philistines throughout David's time. All the different countries that invaded Isreal as God's punishment in the old testament. God will has and does use war to execute his plan.
yeah that’s when Israel’s desolation began and Babylon sacked then and destroyed the temple the first time . It’s a result of thier actions and what the covenant said

Those four horsemen are the four judgements promised n the law if its broken

“For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭14:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

No one’s saying war doesn’t exist or isn’t even prophesied about it is many times but what’s being said is that’s not the way he’s going to restore his people
It’s how he would judge them for thier treachery against him. The restoration can only come through Christ and the gospel[/QUOTE]
 
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Alexander the great and the romans were prophecied about before they ever happened in Daniel. You have to have a war for an empire to take over the world. The conquest of Joshua. The babylonian captivity. Wars with the philistines throughout David's time. All the different countries that invaded Isreal as God's punishment in the old testament. God will has and does use war to execute his plan.
But his plan now isn't an earthly kingdom until Christ returns, so war is pointless to God's plans for his people.
 
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Thank You!!
I needed to refresh my memory on the number of times,
1) 1947 UN PARTITION PLAN
2) 1993-94 OSLO ACCORDS
3) 2000 FOLLOW UP OFFER
4) 2005 GAZA EVACUATION ORDER
5) 2008 PEACE PROPOSAL
6) 2009 TWO STATE PEACE OFFER
7) 2020 PEACE PLAN
ALL of which were rejected outright.
Ezekiel 16:27

“Behold, therefore I have stretched out my hand over thee,
and have diminished thine ordinary food, and delivered
thee unto the will of them that hate thee,
the daughters of the Philistines, which are ashamed of thy lewd way.”