When you gonna wake up?

[ZNP]

Yes, we could all go on and on about our various views of eschatology, as is quite evident. But in the end, to have ones own heart prepared to meet the Lord Jesus Christ is the most important thing.

If we spent half as much time sharing and learning about things such as holiness and sanctification, fasting and prayer etc, building one another up in Christ, instead of ripping each other apart over peripheral issues, oh what a wonderful thing that would be.

There is nothing peripheral, 25% of the Bible is prophecy, go ahead and tell me which 25% of your body is peripheral. You can't talk about the end days without talking about preparing your heart, how to know if it is prepared and seeing every single warning to those who aren't prepared but think they are. What everyone misses when they talk about salvation is sanctification. No one thinks that salvation is a peripheral issue, and yet they ignore sanctification. You can build one another up in Christ, but you discover when looking at this subject that if your faith is not resting on the rock, the revelation of Jesus Christ, but rather your faith is resting on what some pastor or preacher teaches, then you will be one of the stones that is torn down. We need to built up in Christ and we need our faith resting solely on Jesus Christ, the revelation of the incarnated word of God. There is no verse in the Bible that teaches people to ignore 25% of the word of God, so that doctrine comes from the pit of hell.

 

[HeIsHere]

Surely that pleases you. You do love lies. Bye for now.

Not lying, just did a search on reviews and it is still there!

I take no pleasure at all in it, it really is all very sad, but maybe you should know, we all have room to grow and learn.

 

[Eli1]

At least my name does not show up in reviews on the net.

I am invested in topics not the the people, I have a life and I have not been banned where I suspect the other person has .. so how about you pick on someone else.

Lady, you're hilarious as usual. A true tier 1 meme.
You've said before that you are very "dispassionate" and you are interested in topics until people correct you and then you suddenly become very passionate to the point that Red X-es bother like some final notice on your mortgage.
You're hilarious.
It's expected from the Harvard school of thought. Say something inflammatory "dispassionately" and then run and hide.

I would say get real with yourself, get comfortable with who you are and don't try so hard to fit-in but i don't think you're capable.

 

[Magenta]

Not lying, just did a search on reviews and it is still there!

I take no pleasure at all in it, it really is all very sad, but maybe you should know, we all have room to grow and learn.

That includes you. Telling us you are not invested when you have been here for many years under different
names and post regularly is the lie, and also the lies that are told about me online. They get repeated here
as well, as I know. Even your buddies love lying about me, and you have as well. No surprises there.

 

[Eli1]

"This review on the web says that this fridge that i bought should be dead by now according to some leftist Karen, but it's been running solid for 10 years now".

The Web - The final frontier.

 

[Magenta]

"This review on the web says that this fridge that i bought should be dead by now according to some leftist Karen, but it's been running solid for 10 years now".

The Web - The final frontier.

Quite a few years ago I discovered that my high school's official web page says I married and lived in some southern state and had four children and am now dead. When I told some of my siblings what I had discovered, one of them exclaimed, you must correct this misinformation, but I was of a different opinion. I found it amusing, and see no reason why I must confront and correct the lies told elsewhere. Here is a different story. This is a Christian chat site where some of us discuss the Bible and what is written in God's revealed written Word. We also discuss how these things are to be properly understood. It is par for the course that people who speak strongly against the lies get mentioned in reviews. People hate the Truth. This is a Biblical Truth. Then there are those who hold to man made traditions and vain philosophical views that agree with the world's thinking. Why would the world complain about them?

 

[Eli1]

My high school's official web page says I married and lived in some southern state and had four children and am now dead. When I told some of my siblings what I had discovered, one of them exclaimed, you must correct this misinformation, but I was of a different opinion. I found it amusing, and see no reason why I must confront and correct the lies told elsewhere. Here is a different story. This is a Christian chat site where some of us discuss the Bible and what is written in God's revealed written Word. We also discuss how these things are to be properly understood. It is par for the course that people who speak strongly against the lies get mentioned in reviews. People hate the Truth. This is a Biblical Truth. Then there are those who hold to man made traditions and philosophical views that agree with the world's thinking. Why would the world complain about them?

This site doesn't pander too much to leftist views that's why people are upset.
Go to another leftist Christian chat where you have like 10 moderators to delete your posts because they don't like some words that you use.
Ever better, create a site yourself and see how much traffic you're able to keep with your militant approach.
But everyone is a critic without even explaining their position, being unable to have a normal discussion due to pre-conceived ideas that they can't let go.

 

[JesusWept]

You have been here before.

Yes I have, twice I believe.

I live alone, lost most of family because I stood my ground during covid, lost the rest of them because I stood my ground for Christ. I have no brothers and no church, not for a lack of desire, but God has chosen to keep me alone during this season of my life.

I come here for fellowship, to grow and to help others grow in Christ. But that doesn't seem to be what happens mostly in these forums. All the constant debate and arguing, it grieves my spirit. But not nearly as much as when I allow myself to start getting worked up over one particular topic or another. So I create a password I will never remember, and dip out for a few months.

But eventually the desire to talk about Christ and fellowship with His people will lead me back to the forum. Every time I come here I try to be more measured, less confrontational, and more loving and kind then the last, its obviously a work in progress.

I love the Lord Jesus Christ. I've had people tell me, "all you ever want to talk about is Jesus, don't you have any other interests?" They have no idea.

I wish that Christ was all we talked about here, how to love Him in the way He deserves, holiness, sanctification, how to improve our ministries and prayer lives etc. But its clear that our opinions about this or that are far more important to many who name the name of Christ, than actually living for Him.

Straining gnats and swallowing camels seems to be the order of the day in most Christian forums. But its still usually at least a little better than fellowship with the world.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes I have, twice I believe.

I live alone, lost most of family because I stood my ground during covid, lost the rest of them because I stood my ground for Christ. I have no brothers and no church, not for a lack of desire, but God has chosen to keep me alone during this season of my life.

I come here for fellowship, to grow and to help others grow in Christ. But that doesn't seem to be what happens mostly in these forums. All the constant debate and arguing, it grieves my spirit. But not nearly as much as when I allow myself to start getting worked up over one particular topic or another. So I create a password I will never remember, and dip out for a few months.

But eventually the desire to talk about Christ and fellowship with His people will lead me back to the forum. Every time I come here I try to be more measured, less confrontational, and more loving and kind then the last, its obviously a work in progress.

I love the Lord Jesus Christ. I've had people tell me, "all you ever want to talk about is Jesus, don't you have any other interests?" They have no idea.

I wish that Christ was all we talked about here, how to love Him in the way He deserves, holiness, sanctification, how to improve our ministries and prayer lives etc. But its clear that our opinions about this or that are far more important to many who name the name of Christ, than actually living for Him.

Straining gnats and swallowing camels seems to be the order of the day in most Christian forums. But its still usually at least a little better than fellowship with the world.

Honestly it does not matter, cancelling an account for a bit can be a good thing, tat really was not my point, even if you were the person who may have been "b".... not saying you were, I have moved on and I hope this time goes better or you.
There is not doubt you have a keen and good insight into people and that can be a two edged sword.

On the other part, it won't matter how gently you address the issue(s) of the "golden calf" and there are a few present, it usually has the same result.

It is a the "playground" dynamic over and over again, but anyway I wish you the best on this attempt to find fellowship.

 

[Eli1]

Yes I have, twice I believe.

I live alone, lost most of family because I stood my ground during covid, lost the rest of them because I stood my ground for Christ. I have no brothers and no church, not for a lack of desire, but God has chosen to keep me alone during this season of my life.

I come here for fellowship, to grow and to help others grow in Christ. But that doesn't seem to be what happens mostly in these forums. All the constant debate and arguing, it grieves my spirit. But not nearly as much as when I allow myself to start getting worked up over one particular topic or another. So I create a password I will never remember, and dip out for a few months.

But eventually the desire to talk about Christ and fellowship with His people will lead me back to the forum. Every time I come here I try to be more measured, less confrontational, and more loving and kind then the last, its obviously a work in progress.

I love the Lord Jesus Christ. I've had people tell me, "all you ever want to talk about is Jesus, don't you have any other interests?" They have no idea.

I wish that Christ was all we talked about here, how to love Him in the way He deserves, holiness, sanctification, how to improve our ministries and prayer lives etc. But its clear that our opinions about this or that are far more important to many who name the name of Christ, than actually living for Him.

Straining gnats and swallowing camels seems to be the order of the day in most Christian forums. But its still usually at least a little better than fellowship with the world.

But this is the condition of the world bro.
Everywhere you go, everywhere you say something you will encounter other ideas.
The question is: how well can you communicate, what can you offer in terms of understanding and how to get something new for yourself while giving others something new for themselves. And finally, how good are you with disagreements? Are you the typical liberal where you can't cope with different ideas and wants a safe space or are you a person who is able to deal with different ideas, forgive others when they are in error and maybe see an opportunity later to build a bridge?
I mean, where are you in any of these things?

Even if you live alone in the nature, the nature is out to get you. You're gonna get heat, you're gonna get cold, you're gonna get earthquakes, you're gonna get fires, you're gonna get floods.
How are you gonna deal with all these things? Safe space? Or other methods.

And since we are on the new forum where politics is typically discussed here, can you even discuss properly and rationally any political point without using the words "orange man bad" or "nazis" and have a professional discussion where both sides, even if they disagree, have respect for each-other?

 

[JesusWept]

Honestly it does not matter, cancelling an account for a bit can be a good thing, tat really was not my point, even if you were the person who may have been "b".... not saying you were, I have moved on and I hope this time goes better or you.
There is not doubt you have a keen and good insight into people and that can be a two edged sword.

On the other part, it won't matter how gently you address the issue(s) of the "golden calf" and there are a few present, it usually has the same result.

It is a the "playground" dynamic over and over again, but anyway I wish you the best on this attempt to find fellowship.

Thank you fro the kind words. I never had an account that started with a "b" but as you said, it doesn't matter.

I am full aware that my views on a wide range of topics go against the grain of contemporary evangelical thought.

But Christ did not place me in this world to go with the flow.

Much love. Much peace.

 

[HeIsHere]

Thank you fro the kind words. I never had an account that started with a "b" but as you said, it doesn't matter.

I am full aware that my views on a wide range of topics go against the grain of contemporary evangelical thought.

But Christ did not place me in this world to go with the flow.

Much love. Much peace.

"B" was not for a name, that is kinda funny, all good.

 

[JesusWept]

But this is the condition of the world bro.
Everywhere you go, everywhere you say something you will encounter other ideas.
The question is: how well can you communicate, what can you offer in terms of understanding and how to get something new for yourself while giving others something new for themselves. And finally, how good are you with disagreements? Are you the typical liberal where you can't cope with different ideas and wants a safe space or are you a person who is able to deal with different ideas, forgive others when they are in error and maybe see an opportunity later to build a bridge?
I mean, where are you in any of these things?

Even if you live alone in the nature, the nature is out to get you. You're gonna get heat, you're gonna get cold, you're gonna get earthquakes, you're gonna get fires, you're gonna get floods.
How are you gonna deal with all these things? Safe space? Or other methods.

And since we are on the new forum where politics is typically discussed here, can you even discuss properly and rationally any political point without using the words "orange man bad" or "nazis" and have a professional discussion where both sides, even if they disagree, have respect for each-other?

I don't believe I have ever used the words "orange man bad", though I have referred to Trump as an unrepentant adulterer and a Zionist stooge. I am allowed my opinion. And those who feel otherwise are allowed theirs. But the enthusiasm for Trump goes well beyond political support, it has become a cult for many, where anyone who speaks the truth about the man is shouted down or ignored. That's scary. I recall another figure in political history who's followers exhibited a similar enthusiasm, it did not end well, in fact it never does.

If you can point out to me where I have referred to Nazis in any way, please point it out. I'm sure it must have happened, but context is important.

If I gave two shakes about politics, I would have to classify myself as a constitutional conservative, no liberal here. I believe politics to be nothing more than another distraction from all that really matters. Beyond that I couldn't care less about politics.

Christ is my safe space.

In the last 10 years I've seen thousands upon thousands of Trump signs and banners on peoples houses and in their yards, rarely do I ever see a sign promoting Christ along side them. Telling.

The fact that "christians" will immediately call you anything but a white boy, should you challenge their beloved, and with such vitriol and obvious hatred, while at the same time calling you a hater, a bigot and a fool, is also telling.

But I will keep doing what I feel led to do. God will sort it all out in the end.

I'm probably wrong about a lot of things, it us what it is. But I am secure.

Christ is my safe space.

 

[shittim]

Yes I have, twice I believe.

I live alone, lost most of family because I stood my ground during covid, lost the rest of them because I stood my ground for Christ. I have no brothers and no church, not for a lack of desire, but God has chosen to keep me alone during this season of my life.

I come here for fellowship, to grow and to help others grow in Christ. But that doesn't seem to be what happens mostly in these forums. All the constant debate and arguing, it grieves my spirit. But not nearly as much as when I allow myself to start getting worked up over one particular topic or another. So I create a password I will never remember, and dip out for a few months.

But eventually the desire to talk about Christ and fellowship with His people will lead me back to the forum. Every time I come here I try to be more measured, less confrontational, and more loving and kind then the last, its obviously a work in progress.

I love the Lord Jesus Christ. I've had people tell me, "all you ever want to talk about is Jesus, don't you have any other interests?" They have no idea.

I wish that Christ was all we talked about here, how to love Him in the way He deserves, holiness, sanctification, how to improve our ministries and prayer lives etc. But its clear that our opinions about this or that are far more important to many who name the name of Christ, than actually living for Him.

Straining gnats and swallowing camels seems to be the order of the day in most Christian forums. But its still usually at least a little better than fellowship with the world.

If we truly want to walk with the Lord, and it sounds like you do, He will put you in a place where you will spend time alone with Him. You may get to where you would prefer His company to people.
blessings

 

[Eli1]

I don't believe I have ever used the words "orange man bad", though I have referred to Trump as an unrepentant adulterer and a Zionist stooge. I am allowed my opinion. And those who feel otherwise are allowed theirs. But the enthusiasm for Trump goes well beyond political support, it has become a cult for many, where anyone who speaks the truth about the man is shouted down or ignored. That's scary. I recall another figure in political history who's followers exhibited a similar enthusiasm, it did not end well, in fact it never does.

If you can point out to me where I have referred to Nazis in any way, please point it out. I'm sure it must have happened, but context is important.

If I gave two shakes about politics, I would have to classify myself as a constitutional conservative, no liberal here. I believe politics to be nothing more than another distraction from all that really matters. Beyond that I couldn't care less about politics.

Christ is my safe space.

In the last 10 years I've seen thousands upon thousands of Trump signs and banners on peoples houses and in their yards, rarely do I ever see a sign promoting Christ along side them. Telling.

The fact that "christians" will immediately call you anything but a white boy, should you challenge their beloved, and with such vitriol and obvious hatred, while at the same time calling you a hater, a bigot and a fool, is also telling.

But I will keep doing what I feel led to do. God will sort it all out in the end.

I'm probably wrong about a lot of things, it us what it is. But I am secure.

Christ is my safe space.

LOL, you make me laugh because you begin with typical leftist rhetoric such as "quote me where i said this" while missing the point.
Here, on post 26 you say "orange Jesus". Now what? lol
Do you even know what the point is? The point i was trying to make to you is how to communicate, choose your words and ideas carefully, be respectful of the other side and once you understand the other side clearly then disagree without inflaming the situation.
This is called a professional discussion.
A lot of people miss the point every day, in real life not just here. They think they have a "gotcha" moment with Trump and have no awareness of why and how Trump was voted there.
So this part was funny to read from you by the way.

You mention extremes in the world which is what i said with my example of weather extremes too, while living alone without interacting with people ... like a monk for example. And i asked how do you deal with extremes?
Can you give me a few example how you deal with extremes? I have seen a lot of extremes in my life so you could say i have some life experience.
Give me an example how would you deal with an extreme situation where your life is in danger not just your ideas while we're drinking coffee in air-conditioned rooms.

 

[JesusWept]

"B" was not for a name, that is kinda funny, all good.

You'll have to clue me in then, because I seriously have no idea what you were talking about. Ahh, OK. Maybe it just hit me. Did you mean Banned. Yes, actually. I think I was banned at one point in time.
The reason stated if I remember correctly was for being an antisemitic nutjob.

The forum seems to have changed somewhat since then, I have not.

I'm no antisemite. Criticizing and calling out those who are claiming to be Jews is not hatred, quite the opposite actually.
I could give my thoughts on homosexuals all day long on this forum if such things concerned me, not one person would call me a homophobe.
Everyone has their sacred cows I guess.

 

[JesusWept]

If we truly want to walk with the Lord, and it sounds like you do, He will put you in a place where you will spend time alone with Him. You may get to where you would prefer His company to people.
blessings

Been there a while already. If an ascetic lifestyle were an option for me, I would never come down from my mountain. But there are people to love and truths to tell, and God Himself tells us that it is not good for a man to be alone.

 

[Eli1]

Everyone has their sacred cows I guess.

So if it's a point where you know that you can't make the other side understand through your choice words, why do you even attempt?

 

[Eli1]

And suppose for a moment that you made the other side understand and agree with you. Why did you do it? To achieve what?
Self greatness? Peace in the world? Or glorify God?

 

[JesusWept]

So if it's a point where you know that you can't make the other side understand through your choice words, why do you even attempt?

Choice words? Yes, I work very hard at choosing my words. And when I cross the line I try to make it right. Better not too cross the line. But the line for me is truth. Factual evidence supported by available data has always been the line for me.

While I care very much about everyone's feelings, I try to follow Christ's example in this regard. The truth trumps feeling.

Why keep trying? Love I suppose. The love I have for those who have fallen into these traps of the enemy. Love of truth. And then of course, there are many who are still on the fence one way or the other, or who have never even considered some of the things spoken of here. They may not comment, but they read, and some of them may actually be encouraged to look beyond their programming because of something one of us have said. I'm not alone. There are others who have come to similar conclusions, we are clearly in the minority. I wouldn't expect it to be any other way. Its not called "Great" Deception by accident. And the great falling away began quite some time ago.