You will find out in the day of Judgment, what the Truth is. However I say again, if you everyone Christ died for them, you may end up lying to them, if they were not an elect.
Matt 1:21 He Shall save His People
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I ask YOU as Paul asked those in Ephesus, have YOU received the Holy Ghost since you have believed??
Acts 19
1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
I'm not trying to be a wise guy, I'm trying to figure out why you would post stuff that is not true.
So like Paul I ask questions, then Paul asked when they said NO, how were you baptized, how were YOU baptized?
Sure to all the Seed !
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
This is a Promise of something that must be done, its a promised Salvation of a very specific people.
Rom 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Yes, the seed here in this verse and the his people in the Matt 1:21 verse are the same.
The saving is the same, in Rom 4:16, the promise is speaking about Salvation.
Lk 2:30-32
30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Lk 1:68-77
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
All whom receive a Knowledge of remission of their sins are the His People of Matt 1:21 and the seed of Rom 4:16.
Notice the mention of our Father Abraham in vs 73
Abraham is the Father of us all who Believe Rom 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Now Salvation is sure to all the seed, it is by Faith that it should be by Grace. So Faith is conditioned by Grace, and not the other way around as the false christian world would tell us. If the promise of eternal salvation or eternal inheritance were conditioned upon those of the seed having faith, then how could the promises be sure to them ?
But if Faith is a product of Grace, then we can understand how the promises are sure to all the seed. For the seed believes through or by Grace Acts 18:27
27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
Because the seed had been ordained to Eternal Life or Inheritance Acts 13:48
48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed
And as long as Grace Reigns, faith will be empowered, so all the seed is being kept by the Power and Grace of God through Faith 1Pet 1:5
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
That is the Power of God [Grace Reigning] keeps us in the Faith, Grace it is we believe by Acts 18:27, so Grace keeps us believing, if we be of that Holy Seed !
Those who teach that Salvation is a condional offer to all, they are false teachers and do not understand that Salvation is a Promise to all of a certain seed ! 1
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
This is a Promise of something that must be done, its a promised Salvation of a very specific people.
Rom 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Yes, the seed here in this verse and the his people in the Matt 1:21 verse are the same.
The saving is the same, in Rom 4:16, the promise is speaking about Salvation.
Lk 2:30-32
30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Lk 1:68-77
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
All whom receive a Knowledge of remission of their sins are the His People of Matt 1:21 and the seed of Rom 4:16.
Notice the mention of our Father Abraham in vs 73
Abraham is the Father of us all who Believe Rom 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Now Salvation is sure to all the seed, it is by Faith that it should be by Grace. So Faith is conditioned by Grace, and not the other way around as the false christian world would tell us. If the promise of eternal salvation or eternal inheritance were conditioned upon those of the seed having faith, then how could the promises be sure to them ?
But if Faith is a product of Grace, then we can understand how the promises are sure to all the seed. For the seed believes through or by Grace Acts 18:27
27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
Because the seed had been ordained to Eternal Life or Inheritance Acts 13:48
48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed
And as long as Grace Reigns, faith will be empowered, so all the seed is being kept by the Power and Grace of God through Faith 1Pet 1:5
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
That is the Power of God [Grace Reigning] keeps us in the Faith, Grace it is we believe by Acts 18:27, so Grace keeps us believing, if we be of that Holy Seed !
Those who teach that Salvation is a condional offer to all, they are false teachers and do not understand that Salvation is a Promise to all of a certain seed ! 1
According to you. We will be held accountable for EVERY word out of our mouth.
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sin.
YOUR CLAMING JESUS DIDN'T COME FOR ALL, PROVE IT!!
Who are HIS people??
Keep it simple?
I am trying to figuer out why you can't SEE?
I asked you if you have been bapitzed in JESUS name and recevied the Holy Ghost, you will not answer.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
JESUS says if not born again YOU CAN'T SEE.
So tell me who are HIS people?
He came to save His people from their sins Matt 1:21 and you dont believe the proof, thats on you
LOL, I do believe it.
The answer to the question I asked you is "HIS PEOPLE" are anyone who OBEYS him.
He love all of us the same, but only the ones who obey him will enter Heaven.
A sure Promise to save His People !
He shall save His People from their Sins, so says the Promise Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
I ask again, who are His People ? It certainly is not the ethnic jews as many deceived souls would tell us, but it is all those that He bought with a price, and redeemed by His Blood from all iniquity as Per Titus 2:14
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
The word redeem here is the greek word lytroō and means:
to release on receipt of ransom
2) to redeem, liberate by payment of ransom
a) to liberate
b) to cause to be released to one's self by payment of a ransom
c) to redeem
d) to deliver: from evils of every kind, internal and external
His People by Redemption 1 Cor 6:20
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
His People is His Church Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
The word purchase here is word peripoieō and means:
to make to remain over
2) to reserve, to leave or keep safe, lay by
3) to make to remain for one's self
4) to preserve for one's self
5) to get for one's self, purchase
Now if anyone cannot see these as being Christ's people he came to save of Matt 1:21 it is because they are blinded by the devil !
He shall save His People from their Sins, so says the Promise Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
I ask again, who are His People ? It certainly is not the ethnic jews as many deceived souls would tell us, but it is all those that He bought with a price, and redeemed by His Blood from all iniquity as Per Titus 2:14
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
The word redeem here is the greek word lytroō and means:
to release on receipt of ransom
2) to redeem, liberate by payment of ransom
a) to liberate
b) to cause to be released to one's self by payment of a ransom
c) to redeem
d) to deliver: from evils of every kind, internal and external
His People by Redemption 1 Cor 6:20
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
His People is His Church Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
The word purchase here is word peripoieō and means:
to make to remain over
2) to reserve, to leave or keep safe, lay by
3) to make to remain for one's self
4) to preserve for one's self
5) to get for one's self, purchase
Now if anyone cannot see these as being Christ's people he came to save of Matt 1:21 it is because they are blinded by the devil !
So now it's up to me, believe your lies or I'm blinded by the devil!
I think I'll stick with HIS word and follow JESUS not you.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
NO HIS WORD DOES NOT LIE.
People do.
Who is HIS PEOPLE those who OBEY HIM..............
Are you one of them?
Have YOU been baptized in JESUS name?
Has HE filled you with HIS spirit?
Does HE KNOW YOU?
Well, when I say obey what I mean is we need to OBEY what scriputure say how we get rid of our sins. So he did HIS job and is now our lamb and we must do our job and OBEY what he says what to do.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to
He also said, Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
If 100% OBEYS then he shall save 100%, but it's clear to me that no many like what he says we must do to get rid of our sins, so the percentage drops to few.
You dont believe Matt 1:21 then. It has nothing to do with man obeying, in fact man is dead in sin
Don't tell me what I belived and don't beleive.
It has EVERYHING to do with OBEYING.
WE ALL ARE DEAD IN SIN, BUT JESUS gave us a way.
I just shared scripture how to get rid of sins.
Who are HIS SHEEP?
John 10:27-28
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
DO YOU hear his voice?