Why doesn’t Hebrews mention ….

[Pilgrimshope]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

 

[SilverFox7]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

Hey brother - a quick blip on this one, and then I'd like to delve into this one a little further when I have more time.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ was written after the book of Hebrews, which has a different focus and scope than John's revelation/vision on the island of Patmos.

Still thinking this great question through!...

 

[GWH]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

Big IF.
Hebrews 7:18-10:1 teaches that the OC has been superseded by the NT.

 

[Omegatime]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

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John 4 answers his question--woman at the well

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

 

[timf]

The first covenant was accepted by the nation of Israel at Mt. Sinai. The new covenant with the nation of Israel that was foretold by Ezekiel and Jeremiah would also require the acceptance by the nation of Israel. The book of Hebrews seems a last ditch effort to reach the nation.It may have been written by Paul who had such a heart for his people that he even disobeyed God to return to Jerusalem.

When the time of the gentiles is over and the tribulation comes, a faithful remnant of Israel will receive her King and his earthly kingdom.

 

[Omegatime]

The first covenant was accepted by the nation of Israel at Mt. Sinai. The new covenant with the nation of Israel that was foretold by Ezekiel and Jeremiah would also require the acceptance by the nation of Israel. The book of Hebrews seems a last ditch effort to reach the nation.It may have been written by Paul who had such a heart for his people that he even disobeyed God to return to Jerusalem.

When the time of the gentiles is over and the tribulation comes, a faithful remnant of Israel will receive her King and his earthly kingdom.

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City of Jerusalem was not the problem

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Unbelievers need an earthly kingdom because without faith that is the only way they could ever have one.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The new covenant with the nation of Israel that was foretold by Ezekiel and Jeremiah would also require the acceptance by the nation of Israel.

It was by the 11 representative heads of Israel. Any others who accept the new covenant do so based on their words and witness.The new covenant differs from the old covenant in that it is applied on an individual basis rather than nationally.

 

[Omegatime]

Unbelievers need an earthly kingdom because without faith that is the only way they could ever have one.

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I agee with you on that statement and why the Temple will be rebuilt during the Tribulation

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

When the time of the gentiles is over and the tribulation comes, a faithful remnant of Israel will receive her King and his earthly kingdom.

There's no such thing as an earthly kingdom of God. There is a heavenly kingdom God that will reign on earth when Christ returns with his hevenly kingdom.

 

[tablet123]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

In Jewish eschatology, a central belief is that the Messiah, a descendant of king David, will usher in a future era known as the Messianic Age.

During this time, it's believed the Kingdom of Israel will be restored to its former glory and power on Earth.

Gather the exiled Jews back to the land of Israel.

Rebuild the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

Establish a kingdom of peace and justice that will encompass not only Israel but also the entire world.

The Hebrews do not need to be told of their earthly kingdom on earth for the Old Testament declares it and they believe it.

Hebrews focuses on their spiritual salvation which is also the most important.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The disciples knew the kingdom would be restored to Israel as well as the Pharisees and the people.

Which would be the biggest reason they did not accept Jesus because He did not put down Roman authority and restore the kingdom to them.

They did not understand that first there has to be a sinless man to save them and the world before that can happen.

If Jesus would of put down the Romans and restored the kingdom to Israel and ushered in peace the Hebrews would of had no problem accepting Jesus.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In Jewish eschatology, a central belief is that the Messiah, a descendant of king David, will usher in a future era known as the Messianic Age.

During this time, it's believed the Kingdom of Israel will be restored to its former glory and power on Earth.

Gather the exiled Jews back to the land of Israel.

Rebuild the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

Establish a kingdom of peace and justice that will encompass not only Israel but also the entire world.

The Hebrews do not need to be told of their earthly kingdom on earth for the Old Testament declares it and they believe it.

Hebrews focuses on their spiritual salvation which is also the most important.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The disciples knew the kingdom would be restored to Israel as well as the Pharisees and the people.

Which would be the biggest reason they did not accept Jesus because He did not put down Roman authority and restore the kingdom to them.

They did not understand that first there has to be a sinless man to save them and the world before that can happen.

If Jesus would have put down the Romans and restored the kingdom to Israel and ushered in peace the Hebrews would have had no problem accepting Jesus.

yeah I was wondering why the soecific letter to the Hebrews is all about a heavenly kingdom and heavenly Jerusalem . It seems as if it would have been all about how the earthly kingdom was going to be restored but it is t even mentioned . Infact what is there doesn’t st all for the idea

If you look through the New Testament there’s no teachings about it . Of course one might quote this as proof but I don’t really see it actually

“When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

i don’t really see this as telling us about how he’s going to come and restore thier covenant and temple and City on this earth .

Of course after this world ends then he’s going to restore the kingdom in a new one

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. ( gods kingdom fulfilled on a new earth ) And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

notice there’s no temple after that

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In Jewish eschatology, a central belief is that the Messiah, a descendant of king David, will usher in a future era known as the Messianic Age.

During this time, it's believed the Kingdom of Israel will be restored to its former glory and power on Earth.

Gather the exiled Jews back to the land of Israel.

Rebuild the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

Establish a kingdom of peace and justice that will encompass not only Israel but also the entire world.

The Hebrews do not need to be told of their earthly kingdom on earth for the Old Testament declares it and they believe it.

Hebrews focuses on their spiritual salvation which is also the most important.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The disciples knew the kingdom would be restored to Israel as well as the Pharisees and the people.

Which would be the biggest reason they did not accept Jesus because He did not put down Roman authority and restore the kingdom to them.

They did not understand that first there has to be a sinless man to save them and the world before that can happen.

If Jesus would have put down the Romans and restored the kingdom to Israel and ushered in peace the Hebrews would have had no problem accepting Jesus.

Thanks for the thorough presentation by the way

 

[JohnDB]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

The book of Hebrews uses all sorts of extra biblical teachings and literature that explains the Torah and other sections of the Tenakh. In essence it's a Thesis paper for post doctoral readers.
The explanation you are looking for is outside it's scope of focus.
It is a step by step explanation and proof of how and why Jesus/God has provided Salvation and given them a better covenant to work with And WHY.


Most of its discussion is lost on Gentiles unfamiliar with Jewish teachings. This is why a copy of Westcott's handbook on Hebrews is essential for Gentile understanding. Westcott was an expert on Jewish literature of that time period.
Eadie was his apprentice....

Just saying.....

 

[Omegatime]

As christians everyone should understand that the temple in this age resides within us.

But the antichrist will allow the rebuilding of the temple of stone to please the Sanhedrin and Israel. Comment from one of Apostle John's disciples speaking of the antichrist.

The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The book of Hebrews uses all sorts of extra biblical teachings and literature that explains the Torah and other sections of the Tenakh. In essence it's a Thesis paper for post doctoral readers.
The explanation you are looking for is outside it's scope of focus.
It is a step by step explanation and proof of how and why Jesus/God has provided Salvation and given them a better covenant to work with And WHY.


Most of its discussion is lost on Gentiles unfamiliar with Jewish teachings. This is why a copy of Westcott's handbook on Hebrews is essential for Gentile understanding. Westcott was an expert on Jewish literature of that time period.
Eadie was his apprentice....

Just saying.....

Thanks for the input. Do you know of any New Testament teachings in the Bible that cover the subject ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

As christians everyone should understand that the temple in this age resides within us.

But the antichrist will allow the rebuilding of the temple of stone to please the Sanhedrin and Israel. Comment from one of Apostle John's disciples speaking of the antichrist.

The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem.

Thanks for the input

 

[JohnDB]

Thanks for the input. Do you know of any New Testament teachings in the Bible that cover the subject ?

Nope, the backdrop for Hebrews is the Jewish teachings based upon Old Testament scriptures. The whole of the Sifre (Laws explained) and Midrash(Laws and Prophets discussed) are contained within the Book of Hebrews.
You really can't find another New Testament book that discusses how definitively to this level of how Jesus is the promised Messiah, how he is better than the Old Testament, the institution of the New Covenant and the details of how its so much better than the Old.

Paul, the writer of over half of the New Testament, is mostly concerned with explanation of essential aspects of the faith to a Gentile audience that has zero knowledge of Judaism or God whatsoever.
Matthew comes the closest but unless you again know both the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament (and Jewish agreed upon Messianic scriptures) as well as the established and known tests for the true Messiah in Jewish extra-Biblical literature...you will miss the references. (Most pulpit preachers do)

And even then, Matthew is about a different set of facts of proving, by His actions, that Jesus was indeed the Messiah by Jesus's fulfillment of the prophecies.

The in depth study of the book of Hebrews offers a unique insight into Jewish life....it's not a complete look at the cultural aspects of Jewish life. But it still offers insights.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Nope, the backdrop for Hebrews is the Jewish teachings based upon Old Testament scriptures. The whole of the Sifre (Laws explained) and Midrash(Laws and Prophets discussed) are contained within the Book of Hebrews.
You really can't find another New Testament book that discusses how definitively to this level of how Jesus is the promised Messiah, how he is better than the Old Testament, the institution of the New Covenant and the details of how its so much better than the Old.

Paul, the writer of over half of the New Testament, is mostly concerned with explanation of essential aspects of the faith to a Gentile audience that has zero knowledge of Judaism or God whatsoever.
Matthew comes the closest but unless you again know both the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament (and Jewish agreed upon Messianic scriptures) as well as the established and known tests for the true Messiah in Jewish extra-Biblical literature...you will miss the references. (Most pulpit preachers do)

And even then, Matthew is about a different set of facts of proving, by His actions, that Jesus was indeed the Messiah by Jesus's fulfillment of the prophecies.

The in depth study of the book of Hebrews offers a unique insight into Jewish life....it's not a complete look at the cultural aspects of Jewish life. But it still offers insights.

Yes Hebrews is a great book . I’m asking if you know of any other New Testament books or letters that address the restoration of earthly Israel ? The rebuilding of thier temple ect ?

 

[Howdy]

Why doesn’t the letter written to the Hebrews mention the restoring of thier temple or land or thier riegn for a thousand years on earth ? but instead it explaines that tbier inheritance and promised land isn’t on this earth but in heaven ?

just a question to ponder . it seems as if the specific letter written to Hebrews would have been all about waiting for the Hope of thier earthly covenant restoration and the rebuilding of thier temple and gathering back to thier land or at least mentioned it in passing to those Hebrews …..rather than creating this idea that tbier kingdom inheritance isnt of this earth or the old covenant. If that was what’s going to happen .

Maybe because they will not rebuild the temple.
When Jesus died on the cross He confirmed the covenant God promised in Jeremiah 31 and made the temple worship system void and unacceptable to God.
Paul teaches this in Hebrews because some of the Hebrew Believers were returning to the temple system.