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I would love to get to now your wife Cobus. she sounds like a beautiful Daughter of God.
A
Nope. He wasn't a perfect person but I dare say he might have been more perfect than either of us after his conversion... lol.
But it's actually OK to be anti-Pauline in the sense that you don't like the personality of Paul (though you should still seek God's love for people until you find it in yourself). The problem comes when people allow that to affect their view of what God said through Paul. That type of anti-Pauline then is also anti-God and therein lies the problem with that.
But it's actually OK to be anti-Pauline in the sense that you don't like the personality of Paul (though you should still seek God's love for people until you find it in yourself). The problem comes when people allow that to affect their view of what God said through Paul. That type of anti-Pauline then is also anti-God and therein lies the problem with that.
Res33 if you believe what God says then you have to believe that God wants women to be quiet in church.... LOOK ...It s not Paul's commands that a woman should be quiet it is GOD'S... If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
We know that the children of God will be persocuted, and the Teachers/Preachers/Pastors will be the number one targets. The man is the stronger sex and children knows.... I will tell my dad and he will sort this out, my dad is very strong..... Children also knows that when a bad man comes to the house DAD will sort him out... Dad is the FATHER and the STRONG one in the house. Dad protects mom and the kids.
When they want to harm DAD we as kids can hang on the MOM for comfort. When they harm MOM we as kids have no one to hang on too for comfort. Look at how many men were in prison for God's Word, and how few women if any.
That hing about ...In christ there is no woman of man... Well in Christ it is still the woman who falls preagnant when a baby is consieved... Never heard of a man falling pregnant when they sleep together. And also Never saw a verse where God gives a woman the authority over her man, even when he is a non-believer she should subject to him.
God will NEVER make me the Christ, He will ALWAYS be my head, just as the husband will ALWAYS be the head of the wife. There CANNOT be two heads in one family, it will be FATAL to the family. Just obey God's Word... Let Jesus be the head of the church, and you will see NO WOMAN will speak in the church, because JESUS will ALWAYS be a respector of God's will. Even the verse in 1 Cor 14:47.
The argument that a woman was the first ne to preach the gospel is just so far twisted it is almost madness... When Mary was sent to tell the disciples that Jesus was alive, she was not filled with the Holy Spirit, so she could not be a Truth preacher/ Gospel preacher. Only Spirit filled people were used to preach the Gospel. No Holy Spirit, no preacher! Simple as that.
When the woman at the well went to the Samaritans to say: "I this not the Christ, for he told me all I ever did" They believed, but not really, because they had to hear it from one with the Holy Spirit in HIM FIRST to believe in the SPIRIT. So she was a witness, but also without the Spirit, and that disqualifies her as a preacher/teacher/Truth speaker!
Only AFTER they heard Jesus speak they believed the SPIRIT! I hope you people see the difference. That is why so many woman even believe GOD CALLED them to be pastors, because they NEVER even head a Spirit filled pastor! A Spirit filled pastor will NEVER allow a woman to speak in his church, and his whole church, men and women will agree, becasue it is the SAME Spirit that was in control of the church in Corinthians, that is in control of the churches in Christ Jesus today! The Holly Spirit does not change, not one bit!
We know that the children of God will be persocuted, and the Teachers/Preachers/Pastors will be the number one targets. The man is the stronger sex and children knows.... I will tell my dad and he will sort this out, my dad is very strong..... Children also knows that when a bad man comes to the house DAD will sort him out... Dad is the FATHER and the STRONG one in the house. Dad protects mom and the kids.
When they want to harm DAD we as kids can hang on the MOM for comfort. When they harm MOM we as kids have no one to hang on too for comfort. Look at how many men were in prison for God's Word, and how few women if any.
That hing about ...In christ there is no woman of man... Well in Christ it is still the woman who falls preagnant when a baby is consieved... Never heard of a man falling pregnant when they sleep together. And also Never saw a verse where God gives a woman the authority over her man, even when he is a non-believer she should subject to him.
God will NEVER make me the Christ, He will ALWAYS be my head, just as the husband will ALWAYS be the head of the wife. There CANNOT be two heads in one family, it will be FATAL to the family. Just obey God's Word... Let Jesus be the head of the church, and you will see NO WOMAN will speak in the church, because JESUS will ALWAYS be a respector of God's will. Even the verse in 1 Cor 14:47.
The argument that a woman was the first ne to preach the gospel is just so far twisted it is almost madness... When Mary was sent to tell the disciples that Jesus was alive, she was not filled with the Holy Spirit, so she could not be a Truth preacher/ Gospel preacher. Only Spirit filled people were used to preach the Gospel. No Holy Spirit, no preacher! Simple as that.
When the woman at the well went to the Samaritans to say: "I this not the Christ, for he told me all I ever did" They believed, but not really, because they had to hear it from one with the Holy Spirit in HIM FIRST to believe in the SPIRIT. So she was a witness, but also without the Spirit, and that disqualifies her as a preacher/teacher/Truth speaker!
Only AFTER they heard Jesus speak they believed the SPIRIT! I hope you people see the difference. That is why so many woman even believe GOD CALLED them to be pastors, because they NEVER even head a Spirit filled pastor! A Spirit filled pastor will NEVER allow a woman to speak in his church, and his whole church, men and women will agree, becasue it is the SAME Spirit that was in control of the church in Corinthians, that is in control of the churches in Christ Jesus today! The Holly Spirit does not change, not one bit!
Nan if all the woman were like my wife, there would have been more holy people on earth thatn unholy people. She is truly a woman and daughter of God. She is truly the mother of JESUS... Remember how Jesus said... those that do the will of my Father is my brothers, and my mother. Well Lucy just do God's will ALL THE TIME! i think she cannot, not do God's will, becasue I NEVER saw her do something God will not approve of. She is just the perfect wife and mother.
She hails from a little town in Naminia, and the people of Namibia is known for their faith in God and their hospitality and natural neigbourly love, but my wife just is the "epitimy" (the absolute proof) of LOVE ALL PEOPLE! Any person that knows her has said.... WOW what a woman.
My dad's secon wife's father one day said to my dad.... Bakkies, you get good people and you get very good people, but Cobus striked the JACKPOT with that Lucy as a wife. She is an absolute angel. Ananda, all women LOVE my wife as a friend, becasue she just glows with compassion, love, Truth and I think if God reveals all His Spirit in her, she would light up a city! Trust me on this Ananda, her room is booked in heaven, and NONE of her family grows old!
He midlle brother is already gone, so is both her parents just making 60 or 60+. I understand this, because they are like ALL Holy people not meant to suffer too long in this world. Even Jesus said... The foxes have holes and birds have nests, but the Son have no place to lay His head... Yep even Jesus was not welcome here! And i think that is why Holy people will ALWAYS be persecuted on earth... They make the world feel "DIRTY", just like Jesus did.
My only hope is... may I also be disliked for the Truth and God's Name, Amen!
She hails from a little town in Naminia, and the people of Namibia is known for their faith in God and their hospitality and natural neigbourly love, but my wife just is the "epitimy" (the absolute proof) of LOVE ALL PEOPLE! Any person that knows her has said.... WOW what a woman.
My dad's secon wife's father one day said to my dad.... Bakkies, you get good people and you get very good people, but Cobus striked the JACKPOT with that Lucy as a wife. She is an absolute angel. Ananda, all women LOVE my wife as a friend, becasue she just glows with compassion, love, Truth and I think if God reveals all His Spirit in her, she would light up a city! Trust me on this Ananda, her room is booked in heaven, and NONE of her family grows old!
He midlle brother is already gone, so is both her parents just making 60 or 60+. I understand this, because they are like ALL Holy people not meant to suffer too long in this world. Even Jesus said... The foxes have holes and birds have nests, but the Son have no place to lay His head... Yep even Jesus was not welcome here! And i think that is why Holy people will ALWAYS be persecuted on earth... They make the world feel "DIRTY", just like Jesus did.
My only hope is... may I also be disliked for the Truth and God's Name, Amen!
A
So you get opinions.....what do you do with opinions? Override scripture?
Im sure the bible is clear enough on this issue for any woman to understand
But the title leaks your attitude to start with. Why not just have a vote?
Maybe give God 1 point for His opinion. Then tally it up and its all settled.
J
Well said that man!
I heard it said "God plus one is the "majority". Actually God plus none is the massive majority. You are right, what is the point in voting over whether our finite, imperfect thoughts are correct or not? If God said it, IT IS FINAL! "do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds" Romans 12:2.
The renewing of our minds require humility and brokenness because it means saying "my thoughts don't matter, what God says DOES matter" Notice those words come immediately after the instruction to "present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God".
God bless everyone.
I heard it said "God plus one is the "majority". Actually God plus none is the massive majority. You are right, what is the point in voting over whether our finite, imperfect thoughts are correct or not? If God said it, IT IS FINAL! "do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds" Romans 12:2.
The renewing of our minds require humility and brokenness because it means saying "my thoughts don't matter, what God says DOES matter" Notice those words come immediately after the instruction to "present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God".
God bless everyone.
B
why are us men so fearful of a woman talking in church ???
lets look at what we dont enfore first ,,, we dont stone gays now we dont do burned offerings ,, we dont have the clean laws that is such a thing in the bible ,,, yet let a woman talk in church and the men run around pulling there hair out !!!!
Lets face it ,,, the bible is being used to keep woman in there place ,,, nothing more than that ,, in most churchs there is more woman than men 2/3rds more woman than men is the norm oh yes they can clean ,, make the coffee or tea ,, put out the flowers ,, yet if one has something to say she feels God has told her ,,, it will never be heard !!!! to me that is just STUPID !!!! (((and yes i am a man ))
lets look at what we dont enfore first ,,, we dont stone gays now we dont do burned offerings ,, we dont have the clean laws that is such a thing in the bible ,,, yet let a woman talk in church and the men run around pulling there hair out !!!!
Lets face it ,,, the bible is being used to keep woman in there place ,,, nothing more than that ,, in most churchs there is more woman than men 2/3rds more woman than men is the norm oh yes they can clean ,, make the coffee or tea ,, put out the flowers ,, yet if one has something to say she feels God has told her ,,, it will never be heard !!!! to me that is just STUPID !!!! (((and yes i am a man ))
M
I find as I go through these forums that when a person asks a question about a verse, there are so many differing opinions on it, so many arguments AGAINST it, and so many responses that totally fail to be useful in any way at all....the person who asked the question probably would have been better off using their own judgment to discern what the passage means.
A lot of people try to mislead others on here, and whether it's on purpose or not, I don't know, but anyone who is unsure of their own faith and is already on shaky spiritual ground is likely to fall for the lies (intentional or not) that pop up on here.
A lot of people try to mislead others on here, and whether it's on purpose or not, I don't know, but anyone who is unsure of their own faith and is already on shaky spiritual ground is likely to fall for the lies (intentional or not) that pop up on here.
J
Hi Albino Nun
With respect, does it matter what those people (who do not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture) think about the question?
Our faith is founded on the Bible. It is the Bible that tells us about Jesus and His death and ressurrection to save us from our sins. It is the Bible which tells us everything Jesus said and did. Without the Bible, how would we know what truth was? The Holy Spirit shows "born again" believers that the Bible is the infallible Word of God. Those who deny the Bible as the Word of God are not being led by the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth. The Holy Spirit shows us that truth is revealed through scripture. Without the Bible, you have no steady/reliable foundation for your faith.
Therefore, the thoughts of man do not matter. the psalmist wrote "as high as the heavens are above the Earth, so are MY thoughts above your thoughts and MY ways above your ways, says the Lord"
With respect, does it matter what those people (who do not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture) think about the question?
Our faith is founded on the Bible. It is the Bible that tells us about Jesus and His death and ressurrection to save us from our sins. It is the Bible which tells us everything Jesus said and did. Without the Bible, how would we know what truth was? The Holy Spirit shows "born again" believers that the Bible is the infallible Word of God. Those who deny the Bible as the Word of God are not being led by the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth. The Holy Spirit shows us that truth is revealed through scripture. Without the Bible, you have no steady/reliable foundation for your faith.
Therefore, the thoughts of man do not matter. the psalmist wrote "as high as the heavens are above the Earth, so are MY thoughts above your thoughts and MY ways above your ways, says the Lord"