You're right Brother. God doesn't make appointments, lol. He snuck up on me, lol. I was going to pray about who knows what and He was like, wanna be Baptized in the Holy Spirit? Boom. (Whoa.)
GOD'S WORD vs. man's opinion like GWHs.
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You're right Brother. God doesn't make appointments, lol. He snuck up on me, lol. I was going to pray about who knows what and He was like, wanna be Baptized in the Holy Spirit? Boom. (Whoa.)
Praise God you mean?
Can't you do it? No can do? Yes you could if you wanted to!
Exercising my gift of editing, I have pulled together the following teachings of GW having to do with being on the same side or in the same body.
The normative way of stating the kerygma/God's Requirement For Salvation in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:
- There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or Creator God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
- Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
- Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
- Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
- Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with all who truly accept/love Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven after Christ returns at God’s resurrection of all saved souls when everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
Yeah. To be honest I'm not comfortable with him posting his creed on other forum threads and promoting it like it's on par with God's own word or better.
Thank you for challenging him and exposing what is in his heart.
I was wondering if anyone else agreeed.
Thank you, of course it's not about me it's about JESUS.
People can insult me, who cares but to me hes's spradeing lies about my daddy JESUS stabing him in the back.
I told him in the past to prove what comes out of his mouth or IT'S A LIE FROM SATAN.
He told me to start my own tread and he would.
I have to be honest, I'm surprised he's still replying LOL.
GOD BLESS you, JESUS first.
If we were all on the yellow brick road you would be 100% right.
First, JESUS laid out a plan to be reborn.
Believe, repent, get bapized in JESUS name to get rid of our sins and pray for JESUS to fill us with HIS spirit like he filled HIS disciples in Acts 2:4. John 3:5, Acts 2:38.
He does not believe we have to be baptized in JESUS name to get rid of our sins.
He also does not believe in JESUS filling us with HIS spirit and we will speak in tongues, he thinks all we do is get filled with love.
As of now he is spreading lies and going down the wrong road, I'm trying to get him to search for answers in GOD'S word so maybe he will SEE.
Just because someone calls themselves a Christian does not mean they are.
Some just follow their pastor, I was there ones said the prayer and was saved, got baptized in JESUS tilles of course all not BIBLE. Later in life I learned I was following man not JESUS and HIS word.
I am a part of the body, but sure not the brain just have to be a humble toe.
Thank you.
Thank you I started this thread to get GWH to back out what comes out of his mouth with GOD'S word.
I am just trying to get him to see he is not only lying about what GOD's word says but becuase of his lies he could be leading other to Hell.
Some people may call that wrong, I call it LOVE do the fact there is a lost sheep I'm trying to get him in the flock.
I guess you got off track?
How about we finnish this race? You failed to back up your fist comment with HIS word we are now on the second question 2 MORE TO GO.
This is where we left off.
GWH said:
Prove it isn't/doesn't.
My reply,
What do you think of what JESUS says in Mark?
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
What do you think of what Peter says in Acts just after JESUS filled them with the Holy Ghost?
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
What do you think of those verses?
Yeah, I don't know why he's urging people to read his creed and live by them. No one needs his creed. God already wrote the Bible and gave us His Holy Spirit to give us insight and understanding.
To read and live by a man's creed instead of being taught by God Himself we would miss out on deepening our own direct, individual and personal relationships with God.
About his sycophants insulting you - these are people you don't want influencing you anyway if they're that carnal to follow after a man instead of God.
Morning my brother,
First I want to tell you, I am sorry for not reading your whole comment Please forgive me.
The reason I didn't was the question you were asking.
Any time I read a comment and the first few words are not true why read on? What else is not true so I question the first thing.
I also have seen on this chat groop people take my comments and share just a part of them with is misleading and deceiving.
You didn't do that you just thought I made that comment and we got that squared away thank you.
Back to your comment GOD IS SO GOOD AND AMAZING.
Short story, when to Georgia to get some church pews.
Some baptise were building a new church, my pastor asked them why?
There was about 10 men who WERE baptist and got together seeking GOD.
WELL JESUS FILLED THEM WITH HIS SPIRIT AND THEY ALL WERE FILLED LIKE IN Acts 2:4.
There went to their pastor and told him what happened HE KICKED THEM OUT.
GOD is not a respecter of men HE knows our hearts and fills us when HE wan't to.
Acts 2:4 HE told them to wait, they did and HE filled them, I can only guess they were baptized in JESUS name with the rest of the 3 thousand later in that chapter.
Acts 8, they were baptized in JESÚS name but were not filled, Phillip had to send for Peter and John. They came days or weeks later? But then were filled.
Acts 10 They were filled FIRST and then was commanded to be baptized. Keep in mind Jews were not even allowed to talk to the gentiles so I'm guess Peter as surprised when they were filled and would have never baptized them if not. GOD showed Peter they were also accepted.
Then in Acts 19 They came out of the water and Paul lain hands on them and JESUS filled them.
PRAISE GOD he filled you, it for sure has not stopped and a part of the rebirthing process.
I was baptized in JESUS name and not sure how much longer, I went to the front of the church and asked the pastor to pray for me. That is when I got it a day I will never forget IT CHANGED MY LIFE.
GOD BLESS YOU as we go down that yellow brick road somedays running somedays stopping to get a breath just keep moving forward.
Yeah, I don't know why he's urging people to read his creed and live by them. No one needs his creed. God already wrote the Bible and gave us His Holy Spirit to give us insight and understanding.
To read and live by a man's creed instead of being taught by God Himself we would miss out on deepening our own direct, individual and personal relationships with God.
About his sycophants insulting you - these are people you don't want influencing you anyway if they're that carnal to follow after a man instead of God.
AMEN and Thank you.
This I know WE will NEVER know everything!
I also know we have to be humble as a litte child to grow.
When we know more that GOD does ITS A LIE FROM SATAN.
Some times I wonder is it JESUS who puts sackles on peoples eyes like HE did Pharaoh dealing with Moses to let HIS people go or Satan has them and their pride keeps them down?
Either was I know it's our job not to allow Satan to get away with his lies and just plant those seeds. Let JESUS give the increase.
I myself am under construction and sometimes I feel like the rain washed away some parts I'm building on but I'm not dead yet and will keep the construction going on.
GOD BLESS YOU.
Only Daddy through risen Son does that, at least from the view Daddy, Father, PaPa, gave me and everyone else through the whole of the Bible. not a verse or verses here and there to make doctrines, when there is only one Doctrine, the death burial and resurrection of Son, careful how one, anyone else builds from there 1 Cor 3
as in John 3, where the wind comes from no one knows, where it goes next no one knows either.
Trust to Father is that alone, not self or anyone else. Not anymore of, I got to do, to have or to be new. God himself did it all for us all to stand in trust to this love and mercy for us all to be new from Daddy's view, at least for me, You, see as you see, GWH sees as GWH sees, whether or not, or even you or not, includes me are consciously evil or not. God knows each every persons motive in whatever anyone chooses to do. As all will be revealed, when Father chooses, not anyone else thank you Dad.
I see evil itself, eats itself up, Father the only one still good, is forever 1 Cor 13:13, as 1 Cor 13:8-12 shows me at least all else passes but God's Love, Charity for us all y'all.
Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Today again, life or death is still right in front of us all. Choose, thank you
Choosing life or death is the most important thing.
Just because some people claim to be Christians don't mean they are.
We can judge a tree by its fruits and when someone tells me what they say trumps what GOD says there fruit is rotten.
Just waiting for you to say something new that moves the discussion forward.
If you paid attention, you would know I do not play ping-pong or tar-baby,
and I resist the temptation to respond to inane insults, such as posts #35 & 39.
The last thing you said worthy of a reply was "show me", which was an improvement on "prove", because nothing can be proved; all we can do is show (2Cor. 5:7), but now you have reverted to "prove". When I showed readers of this thread one more time evidence that Spirit-filling is now and eternally manifested by divine love (John 13:35, Romans 5:5, Galatians 5:6, Ephesians 3:16-19, 1 Corinthians 13:8-13, etc.), you said "So your proof is any verse with the word love in it? I sure do agree we are to love one and the other but none of them say when you are filled with the Holy Ghost you are filled with love."
If you are saying that verses commanding WB are still "gospel", then you need to show why such commands ceased after Acts 10:48.
I have gone first, and so it is your turn to read the Scripture and affirm where I am correct or advise where you think I go wrong.
Of course you are free to discuss only in bite-sized post or one item at a time. Thanks for being nicer about it than Ouch!
Over...
But I can't really follow your train of thought in that post or something. I received no unction to respond to it. I don't have a paradigm to understand your view. Maybe it's because you are either way aheaad of me on the yellow brick road or way behind me. Or maybe you are a foot and I am a hand in the body, so I don't really get your doctrine.
I was taught differently. Some stuff you say makes me go huh but it's this or that and not what he's saying...
I promise you one thing, I'll respond to it if I get an unction to respond as big as I got to respond to this one.
However, many will claim and not be in. Even got others in, and try to claim that in the end, when Jesus decides, not me or anyone else
I see thankfully I am forgiven and will not abuse accuse, or excuse anyone. I see to not play God
Romans 2:1-4 Thanks
Yes, A tree is easily identified by its fruit. An Orange tree cannot produce Cherries. I can see this truth, and see to remain humble in knowing the possibility and truth when I see a tree producing not the real fruit.
I see the fake fruit now, after going into the grove and taking a bite, and in past got a mouth full of wax
I left the grove, that appeared as good (The Corporate Church) where I got a mouthful of wax, and been working it out, standing in trust to God alone
Thank you for the awareness, I see, yet remain humble and wait patiently for God's lead, not my own or anyone e else's anymore
Okay, let’s see if you get an unction from this: There is one all-loving and just Lord God. Am I right or wrong?