Unsystematic theology.

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Based on the definition of 'natural man' that we are discussing - no - Jesus was not a 'natural man' - because, He did not have the 'sin-nature'.

Neither did Adam before he sinned

 

[Eli1]

Neither did Adam before he sinned

What do you think about this @GaryA ?

I think it’s right.
This is why we have to be a bit more accurate in how we describe Adam and Eve’s conditions because they were the first and only humans in history to reserve a unique positions in history.
They were in pre and post sin conditions physically and spiritually.
There were created in perfect condition by God, and ate from the Tree of Life to sustain body immortality , and spiritually they were aligned with God.
Post sin they lost the physical privilege in the Garden and their bodies would die.
But, and I think this is important, they were still the only humans in history who had a hybrid status at that phase because God put an angel with a sword at the gate of Eden to not allow them back in.
This means that their bodies were in some sort of (hybrid) condition where physically they could get back in … if no angel with a sword was there.
This is why I think they reserve a special position in history of creation and a lot of terms and concepts that we apply to ourselves don’t apply to them prior to sin or are comparable to our bodies even after sin.
Because we don’t even see Eden or an angel with a sword so we can attempt a forceful entry lol , not that we’d win anyway.
But they had the capability to see the angel.
Their children didn’t tho.

What do you think about this?

 

[GaryA]

Neither did Adam before he sinned

What do you think about this @GaryA ?

I agree with it.

 

[Sipsey]

I was born next-door to Greece in Albania and even though i don't speak Greek i understand the difficulties of translations. I have mentioned this before.
But through questions and answers we may arrive to an agreeable understanding.
For example, i agree with what you said in post 56.

I have several books by Spiros Zodhiates, who was born on Cyprus. He came to the US to further his studies and lead AGM Ministries. His Translations of the Greek has greatly helped my understanding when reading Scripture.

 

[GWH]

I agree that Scripture is not written systematically, which is why I made the thread about Hermeneutics regarding how to harmonize GW.
As I obeyed the instruction of Paul in 1Thes. 5:21 to “Test everything. Hold on to the good”, I came to value two NT teachings as key points from which to triangulate or use to guide my interpretation of the Bible:

First: 1Tim. 2:3-4 - "God our savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." This verse is in the same vein as Rom. 5:8, "God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Matt. 5:44&48 teaches that God even loves His enemies, which would include Satan.

Second: 2THS 1:6a - "God is just." This is stated also in RM 9:14, "Is God unjust? Not at all!" and in DT 32:4b, "...all His ways are just."
Justness = righteousness, so many other verses are in this vein. Explanations of God’s Word should not impugn God’s justice for all.
I mine these truths from the Scriptural veins to employ as the starting point of my understanding.

What about you? What is your approach or guiding doctrines?

Unsystematic theology is aka proof-texting and ignoring Scripture that contradicts a dogma such as tulip.

 

[Edify]

Was '3' a typo? Did you really mean '2'? Or, would you kindly tell me the name of the 3rd epistle that Paul wrote specifically-and-particularly to the Corinthians?

I know about '1 Corinthians' and '2 Corinthians' - never heard of '3 Corinthians'...

1Cor 5 : 9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

 

[Gideon300]

1Cor 5 : 9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

So 1 Corinthians is really 2 Corinthians.................