So far, nobody in this thread has been able to prove that those who are not of the elect can call upon the Lord and be saved. 
Can only the elect call upon the name of the Lord and be saved?
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----only the People who accept God the Father's Drawing and have their Harden heart changed to a soft heart to accept the Gospel which inbirths the right Faith in them are on their way to Salvation ----
This is what you have to believe to be saved ----
God says ----IF YOU ___NOTICE ____IF YOU -----ONLY IF YOU ____believe this your saved ----there is a condition to salvation --IF YOU do this
Romans 10:9-10
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9 Because if you acknowledge and confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and in your heart believe (adhere to, trust in, and rely on the truth) that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God),
and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation.
I have proved to you that NO ONE CAN CALL ON THE NAME of the Lord ----as we are all sinners -----all sinners are away from the Lord ----and His Face is turned from all people ---
So again you need some serious Spiritual Training ----as your Spiritual ignorance shows in your posting ----
You are feeling defeated that only the elect can call upon the name of the Lord and be saved.
No Not feeling defeated ---
your the one who is defeated and seriously flawed in your Spiritual understanding
No Not feeling defeated ---
your the one who is defeated and seriously flawed in your Spiritual understanding
AI Overview
Whether a heretic can be considered one of the elect depends on the specific theological perspective regarding heresy and election. Some Christian traditions, such as certain interpretations within Calvinism, suggest that a genuinely elect person, though perhaps straying into error, remains elect and under God's care, while others believe that willful, persistent heresy demonstrates an individual is not among the elect, as it signifies rejection of the truth necessary for salvation.
Arguments for a heretic being of the elect
- God's sovereignty:
Even elect individuals, who are chosen by God for salvation, are capable of sin and error. God can use flawed individuals or even sin to advance His purposes.
- Spiritual immaturity:
A person might become a Christian with limited knowledge and then fall into heresy through confusion, not necessarily malice or willful rejection of the truth.
- Distinction between the Church and heaven:
The church has the role of regulating membership and making judgments about who is in the church, but God alone judges entrance into heaven.
- Rejection of the Gospel:
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Heresy, by definition, is a departure from established doctrine. Willful and persistent heresy indicates a rejection of the true gospel. - False teaching:
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Heretics may knowingly try to lead others astray, which is seen as a sign of not being part of God's true family. - Need for repentance:
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Those who hold false doctrines should be called to repentance and to believe on the gospel.
- Nature of the heresy:
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There's a difference between a sincere seeker who misunderstands and someone who consistently denies essential truths in a willful manner.
- Theology of election:
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Some theological views, like Calvinism, see election as unconditional, meaning God chose a person before birth, and they will ultimately be saved. Other views hold that election is based on foreseen faith.
- Church discipline vs. salvation:
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Churches have the authority to discipline members who hold heretical views, but this does not definitively determine who is truly saved.
So far, nobody in this thread has been able to prove that those who are not of the elect can call upon the Lord and be saved.
Well, election is never to salvation. Context rules. Election is to service.
Not one verse in the bible even hints to this. Calvinists read things that aren't there, reading scripture with a presupposition. Allow context to prevail.
6 And the Lord said: Hear what the unjust judge saith. 7 And will not God revenge his elect who cry to him day and night: and will he have patience in their regard 8 I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? 9 And to some who trusted in themselves as just, and despised others, he spoke also this parable: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The reason why only the elect can call on the name of the Lord and be saved is because only the elect ever ultimately believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
After one gets saved through faith, then they become part of God's elect for his service, not the other way around. The context of election is to God's service, not salvation. Elect angels serve God's purpose. Jesus Christ was God's elect, to serve God's purpose. Was Jesus in need of salvation?
The elect ARE those who accept God's grace.
Synonyms for “elect” include: elect (Matt. 24:22,24&31) = disciples (Matt. 28:7-8,13,16&19) = reborn (John 3:3&7) = believers (John 3:16, 5:24, 6:35-40 & 20:29) = saints (Acts 9:32, Rom. 1:7, 8:27) = Christians (Acts 11:26, 26:28) = saved (Acts 16:30-31) = those in Christ (Rom. 8:1, Eph. 1:1-13) = Spirit-led (Rom. 8:2-16) = children/sons/heirs of God (Rom. 8:14-21) = the grafted in (Rom. 11:17-24) = sanctified/church member (1Cor. 1:2) = God’s people (1Cor. 16:1) = church/saints (2Cor. 1:1 = the faithful/holy (Eph. 1:1, Phil. 1:2) = chosen in Christ (Eph. 1:4-11) = members of God’s household (Eph. 2:19) = soldier/worker (Phi. v.2&24) = WHOSEOVER WILL MAY (Rev. 22:17)
Synonyms for “elect” include: elect (Matt. 24:22,24&31) = disciples (Matt. 28:7-8,13,16&19) = reborn (John 3:3&7) = believers (John 3:16, 5:24, 6:35-40 & 20:29) = saints (Acts 9:32, Rom. 1:7, 8:27) = Christians (Acts 11:26, 26:28) = saved (Acts 16:30-31) = those in Christ (Rom. 8:1, Eph. 1:1-13) = Spirit-led (Rom. 8:2-16) = children/sons/heirs of God (Rom. 8:14-21) = the grafted in (Rom. 11:17-24) = sanctified/church member (1Cor. 1:2) = God’s people (1Cor. 16:1) = church/saints (2Cor. 1:1 = the faithful/holy (Eph. 1:1, Phil. 1:2) = chosen in Christ (Eph. 1:4-11) = members of God’s household (Eph. 2:19) = soldier/worker (Phi. v.2&24) = WHOSEOVER WILL MAY (Rev. 22:17)