Christian perspectives on transgender ideology?

[AmandaLW]

Thank-you for your response. My daughter was born with the name Clairissa. One time she protested about this by saying, “Whyyyy did you have to name me Clairissa!!! I told her because it was the most beautiful name I could think of. Part of this process has been trying to understand why my daughter has wanted to be a male. In second grade she had a classmate that had a very gifted ability with sports. His name was Devin. Clairissa could never compete with him and win. I emphasized the importance of a personal best instead of competition. Around third grade she started to want to change her name and this happened weekly for 3 weeks. She became very upset when no one could remember what her new name was and I explained that would be difficult with such a short amount of time. A few weeks later she said she had decided that her name would be Devin and it still is today. She’s 30.
The only reasoning she ever shared about being male was that she believed men “Had more power and rights” and therefore being a female was a disadvantage. She definitely was the strongest willed child I had ever known. I’d say her Will was stronger than Her Dad, her brother and me put together! But I also saw deep insecurities underneath. I have asked myself countless times if I showed favoritism to her older brother or if I should have showed her that she was the strongest person I knew because yes, I believe what you all are saying, there is something that she doesn’t like about herself.
I also know from my own personal experiences that insecurities are a tool that the devil uses to persecute and lead us away from God.
I agree that acceptance is necessary especially where insecurities are involved. But then there is the need for distance as well to not get caught up in their sins.
My children know that I have always believed in God and my son decided to not allow me to mention God. That’s why I wear a cross. I don’t have to say anything.

 

[Carlyw]

Thank-you for your response. My daughter was born with the name Clairissa. One time she protested about this by saying, “Whyyyy did you have to name me Clairissa!!! I told her because it was the most beautiful name I could think of. Part of this process has been trying to understand why my daughter has wanted to be a male. In second grade she had a classmate that had a very gifted ability with sports. His name was Devin. Clairissa could never compete with him and win. I emphasized the importance of a personal best instead of competition. Around third grade she started to want to change her name and this happened weekly for 3 weeks. She became very upset when no one could remember what her new name was and I explained that would be difficult with such a short amount of time. A few weeks later she said she had decided that her name would be Devin and it still is today. She’s 30.
The only reasoning she ever shared about being male was that she believed men “Had more power and rights” and therefore being a female was a disadvantage. She definitely was the strongest willed child I had ever known. I’d say her Will was stronger than Her Dad, her brother and me put together! But I also saw deep insecurities underneath. I have asked myself countless times if I showed favoritism to her older brother or if I should have showed her that she was the strongest person I knew because yes, I believe what you all are saying, there is something that she doesn’t like about herself.
I also know from my own personal experiences that insecurities are a tool that the devil uses to persecute and lead us away from God.
I agree that acceptance is necessary especially where insecurities are involved. But then there is the need for distance as well to not get caught up in their sins.
My children know that I have always believed in God and my son decided to not allow me to mention God. That’s why I wear a cross. I don’t have to say anything.

Have you ever tried to conversatw with them to just listen? If you listen without a word they will feel safe enough to tell you more and more, and the more they tell you, the more you can slowly influence them and target those parts of their hearts that are so hurt and decieved.

I need to do a better job of this with my husband. I argue with him and take what he says/how hes feeling personally. This is not good.

I mention this because its VERY hard with people you love dearly to respond appropriately at times and I can understand it.

Maybe you've already tried this, or maybe you haven't. But its worth a shot at saying just in case.

Im sure theres a much deeper reason for her transitioning than she just wants rights. But its obvious that shes felt this way for awhile. Maybe around the time she changed her name something happened, or maybe not. You would have to ask why she wants to be a man and listen. Or maybe even apologize if you hadn't listened in the past, or reacted poorly. That takes great humility and it hurts but rebuilds.

Maybe you've already tried all of these things. Im just talking from expirience. My mom and I arent close because I tell her things and she judges and tries to fix me. I cant tell her anything. I cant just talk to her about how im feeling, ever. I fell away from God but now im back, and because of that now I love my mom. I just know that we cant be close in the way that I would like. My mom's always been a Christian but she wasnt a very open mom. And I dont blame her. Lifes tough. I bet I won't be a perfect mom, in fact I know I won't be. Chances are ill hurt my child on accident many many times. Maybe I won't listen to them well. I know ill try my best though.

Consensus because im rambling

Have you asked to just listen?

Reflect on your listening skills and apologize if needed

Build up a good foundation and get to know yout daughter deeply through time

Eventually maybe youll learn more and begin to adress her hurting areas

Same with your son

Distance is okay, but i wouldnt recommend it with your own children. You are one of the closest examples of God they will ever see here on earth until the second coming of Christ. And then they'll see God himself. Same with your husband. They need you. Even if they're hard hearted.

Im at a place where I dont talk to my mom, but she doesnt reach out to me ever so. I do know I would like a personal relationship with my family. Its just hard.

Im not a pastor so take everything I say with a grain of salt. Im just a young woman online who loves Christ. Check with your pastor and seek good counsel.

 

[AmandaLW]

Thank-you for all of your suggestions. I would love the chance to just listen or apologize for any misunderstandings. I haven’t ever gotten this chance. I think it’s because it’s difficult to justify something that isn’t fulfilling in your soul.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Thank-you for your response. My daughter was born with the name Clairissa. One time she protested about this by saying, “Whyyyy did you have to name me Clairissa!!! I told her because it was the most beautiful name I could think of. Part of this process has been trying to understand why my daughter has wanted to be a male. In second grade she had a classmate that had a very gifted ability with sports. His name was Devin. Clairissa could never compete with him and win. I emphasized the importance of a personal best instead of competition. Around third grade she started to want to change her name and this happened weekly for 3 weeks. She became very upset when no one could remember what her new name was and I explained that would be difficult with such a short amount of time. A few weeks later she said she had decided that her name would be Devin and it still is today. She’s 30.
The only reasoning she ever shared about being male was that she believed men “Had more power and rights” and therefore being a female was a disadvantage. She definitely was the strongest willed child I had ever known. I’d say her Will was stronger than Her Dad, her brother and me put together! But I also saw deep insecurities underneath. I have asked myself countless times if I showed favoritism to her older brother or if I should have showed her that she was the strongest person I knew because yes, I believe what you all are saying, there is something that she doesn’t like about herself.
I also know from my own personal experiences that insecurities are a tool that the devil uses to persecute and lead us away from God.
I agree that acceptance is necessary especially where insecurities are involved. But then there is the need for distance as well to not get caught up in their sins.
My children know that I have always believed in God and my son decided to not allow me to mention God. That’s why I wear a cross. I don’t have to say anything.

There are many teachers today who graduate from their colleges with the goal of grooming and converting children as early as possible.
They no longer try to hide it.
Have you heard about the molesters who organized to go into all the public libraries to push homosexuality to preschoolers?
They call it >Drag Queen Story Hour, etc. < Alex gets a little melodramatic, but it sure beats TV news that promotes it.

It's not my place to judge your family member. I just know that this goes on commonly now.
It sounds like you have looked for answers going back to 2nd grade.

Could it be a combination of that and hormone disruptors?

 

[Carlyw]

There are many teachers today who graduate from their colleges with the goal of grooming and converting children as early as possible.
They no longer try to hide it.
Have you heard about the molesters who organized to go into all the public libraries to push homosexuality to preschoolers?
They call it >Drag Queen Story Hour, etc. < Alex gets a little melodramatic, but it sure beats TV news that promotes it.

It's not my place to judge your family member. I just know that this goes on commonly now.
It sounds like you have looked for answers going back to 2nd grade.

Could it be a combination of that and hormone disruptors?

I suspect this is a newer practice as im 23, and this was NOT a thing when I was a child, thank God. Gender theory was just beginning and the LGBTQ+/pride was just begging to grow in populatrity when I was in school. No books were allowed, until I hit middle school, and they were not as bad as they are now. Her daughters 30 years old or so I believe. Respectfully, Time line wise I dont think this was accepted back then. Its only within the last 5 years or so drag queen story hour started, and it became normalized to take your children to pride month.

I already know im homeschooling my future kids unless theres a huge reformation in the education system.

 

[Suze]

Pers

I could really use a Christian perspective from anyone on this topic.

Personally , I believe it's a mental health issue and I'm not qualified to say much more than that . As with all mental health issues , people need care and understanding . If only all the money and resources that r put into enabling and pandering to people with this problem , was redirected into finding out why they feel this way and into helping them get through it and come out healthy and happy in their own skin , things would b much better for everyone . If someone told u that they believed they were really a horse , we wouldn't give them treatment to make them look like a horse would we ? No , we would recognise that they were ill and needed help . I do hope u r able to come to an amicable relationship with your daughter , u will need to b extremely patient with her

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

just remember.

Even if they went through the whole transition process. God still loves HER

work to bring her to Christ. not judge her for her sins. we all have sinned and are guilty

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I suspect this is a newer practice as im 23, and this was NOT a thing when I was a child, thank God. Gender theory was just beginning and the LGBTQ+/pride was just begging to grow in populatrity when I was in school. No books were allowed, until I hit middle school, and they were not as bad as they are now. Her daughters 30 years old or so I believe. Respectfully, Time line wise I dont think this was accepted back then. Its only within the last 5 years or so drag queen story hour started, and it became normalized to take your children to pride month.
I already know im homeschooling my future kids unless theres a huge reformation in the education system.

The Public School school system was an ungodly social engineering program long before it was adopted in America. I posted history of it in other threads, as recently as <two weeks ago. There are some good Christian teachers and principals in some public schools, but they are the exception rather than the rule. I taught in many schools and became acquainted with many after spending 5 years of formal college level courses in the discipline.

Christian parents should accept the fact that they are sacrificing their children to be raised by heathens in violation of the example of Genesis 6 and many clear commands thereafter. Ie. Genesis 18:19

"19For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him."

God can honor you and your family for making the decision to home school before having children. You are going to be blessed! There are so many large happy families of believers who are excellent resources. Many are happy to guide you even now in preparation.

As to the examples I shared with the lady who has this concern, so much so she introduced it in her opening post; they are only two of many. This is nothing new. Believers were warned about sodomites by Jesus Himself going clear back in time to the same chapter. Then in >Chapter 19< you get the graphic example of what the Sodomites are like in every generation. This did not begin when you learned of Story Time with a Drag Queen.
We are warned numerous times, even as soon as Judges 19. BTW, read these in the KJV. There are some ridiculous translations from totally different sources out there that have unrelated renderings. Perhaps a popular one is more interested in not offending the "LGBTQP community," but I digress.

Jude goes back 2,000 years and continues to warn us about the example near the beginning of history.

7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

I found that most pastors avoid uncomfortable and unpopular topics like this. The only kind of Bible believing churches I have experience of hearing about this topic have been independent (non-denominational, evangelical ) Baptist churches. Even a lot of pastors in those churches are not to be followed. Our time is so apostate that some welcome sodomites to work with children!

You didn't mention it, but I will bring it up again for your health and that of your children. Endocrine disruptors are everywhere in our environment. To have healthy babies, you will need to apply this sooner than later. Everything from birth control to water supply affects us and children in utero.
As a Nutritionist/ Health Coach I have many recommendations that are the ounce of prevention.

Have a wonderful day![/quote]

 

[Doll]

My daughter recently contacted me after 14 years of us not having a relationship due to her choice to take hormones and decide she isn’t a female. I am now having to deal with her choice which I never decided to research or understand because it didn’t seem right anyway.

Prayfully, she will come around.
Because loading with synthetic hormones to boost the Testisterone levels beyond what is normally present in females, is unhealthy.

The medical side effects long term are enormous.

 

[AmandaLW]

I suspect this is a newer practice as im 23, and this was NOT a thing when I was a child, thank God. Gender theory was just beginning and the LGBTQ+/pride was just begging to grow in populatrity when I was in school. No books were allowed, until I hit middle school, and they were not as bad as they are now. Her daughters 30 years old or so I believe. Respectfully, Time line wise I dont think this was accepted back then. Its only within the last 5 years or so drag queen story hour started, and it became normalized to take your children to pride month.

I already know im homeschooling my future kids unless theres a huge reformation in the education system.

Prayfully, she will come around.
Because loading with synthetic hormones to boost the Testisterone levels beyond what is normally present in females, is unhealthy.

The medical side effects long term are enormous.

Drag Queen Story Hour
I lived most of my life in Eugene, Oregon and I’d say one word most of its residents would agree on about this city is that it’s liberal. The year I moved to Central Oregon there was a news story about parents protesting outside around a bar where story time hour with a Drag Queen was being held. Eugene protests everything on any given week, but this one caught my attention: A Drag Queen…..reading fairytales…. to children…. in a bar! Where God isn’t a consideration, Eugene becomes all about human rights and the freedom to do whatever they want.

 

[Doll]

Drag Queen Story Hour
I lived most of my life in Eugene, Oregon and I’d say one word most of its residents would agree on about this city is that it’s liberal. The year I moved to Central Oregon there was a news story about parents protesting outside around a bar where story time hour with a Drag Queen was being held. Eugene protests everything on any given week, but this one caught my attention: A Drag Queen…..reading fairytales…. to children…. in a bar! Where God isn’t a consideration, Eugene becomes all about human rights and the freedom to do whatever they want.

The enemy and his demons are gaining traction.

What parent takes their kids to a drag demon brainwashing session in a bar!
Where it is illegal for children to enter being they're under 21y.o.

This demon at a local public library years ago during drag demon story hour was a test. IMO.
Will parents leave ? Or, stay so to themselves appear tolerant of Demons reading to their babies?

 

[AmandaLW]

The enemy and his demons are gaining traction.

What parent takes their kids to a drag demon brainwashing session in a bar!
Where it is illegal for children to enter being they're under 21y.o.

This demon at a local public library years ago during drag demon story hour was a test. IMO.
Will parents leave ? Or, stay so to themselves appear tolerant of Demons reading to their babies?

Wow! They don’t even have to hide their demon faces!
The bar loophole has to do with allowing underage people in a bar at certain hours, which is obviously a slippery slope into an environment that children shouldn’t be involved with.
Right before I signed up for this website I was on another website that advertised it was for socializing with others and making friends. I know in this day and age it’s probably hard to believe that this was actually the first time I ever signed up for a website like this. I always had in-person friends before. Well on the first few hours it became apparent that I had just entered into a snake pit of evil-Not a dramatization at all! Immediately only males responded, continually and they asked me questions like was I really just looking for friendship and where do I live.? They said that most of the women that responded to their posts wanted them to get on their other personal website and get money for evil things! I felt so ridiculous and awful. I prayed to God for cleansing and got off there and onto here. So far everyone has been great!

 

[andy700700]

Matthew 19:4-5
New International Version
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]?

Leviticus 18:22
New International Version
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Romans 1:18-32
New International Version
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.