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The concept in law of "clean hands" has application here, the critics came into the thread not to discuss but with personal motives so nothing they had to say on the topic which had merit and it was of no value.

And that is all that I am going to say on it, along with Branch is no longer a member.
Thats unfortunate, maybe she will come back. If not, that's okay too.
 
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I agree with her goals here, and I dont believe she should be shut down.

No but she has to realize that this is an open forum. Everyone has a right to give their opinion. That is what a discussion forum is. And while it's nice to have a place to share or a "safe place" no one here is a professional as I stated before. So no one opinion is higher than anyone else's. This upset the OP apparently. No one has a right to their own thread to dictate how the conversation will go.


Respectfully, Brother Eli, I do think you can come off a little rough around the edges. This isnt abusive or controling though. If I were you I would adress that, because it seems to me as it can distract what you are saying. But thats perfectly up to you.

All of us at one time or another has had to apologize for comments we have made. I don't see where Eli has said anything wrong. I don't know the OP but apparently he does and it's up to them to settle their differences.
Again, as I say in any situation where advice is given it's simply an opinion. If a person is in an abusive situation they best information anyone here can give is seek professional help.
 
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Thats unfortunate, maybe she will come back. If not, that's okay too.


That is merely HeIsHere's opinion. I come into threads on these subjects to see what is being said. I honestly don't see what Hollywood actresses have to do with the subject. No one really knows their lives. But the OP has a right to post it if they wish. But I have a right to question the post. I don't know the OP I simply pointed out that none of us were in the place to give any real advice. We are not professionals and if someone is in an abusive situation the best thing is to go seek help, as much as wish to help, that's the best advice. That got a boring reaction from the OP, when I asked why there was no answer. I don't know the OP and I would have no reason to try and sabotage their thread.
 
I agree with her goals here, and I dont believe she should be shut down. I think we should all have a place to share our thoughts respectfully, in any thread as long as its nostly on topic. Respectfully, Brother Eli, I do think you can come off a little rough around the edges. This isnt abusive or controling though. If I were you I would adress that, because it seems to me as it can distract what you are saying. But thats perfectly up to you.

Since this post is about abuse, Eli considered highlighting some he has seen from the thread owner. Its a bold move, but seeing the lack of accountability taken after some actual evidence, I understand why hes upset. I do think we could all take notes here!

Im sure ive made some mistakes as well. Nobody is perfect at communicating. I do make sure to voice my likes about these people, Branch is very noble for doing this, its a good thing that shes sticking up for abuse survivors. As for Eli, hes a great Dad and he is sticking up for friends who have been effected by Branches actions. This is good as well. Hopefully Branch can consider why some might be offended. And if Branch has any grievances in actual words that can clearly be explained to Eli, hopefully rather than getting defensive and calling him posessed. Then he can consider them kindly and weigh them in his heart.

Nobody likes to be critiqued, but sometimes it needs to happen, and a lot of the time theres great truth to it.

These are some of my thoughts

Carly, i just want to say that in many of your blessings you have also been blessed with the gift of communication.
You have no idea how many times i've mentioned this since i've been on this forum.
It's a huge problem apparently not just for a lot of people in this forum, but in real life too. The political climate shows this very clearly as well.

But i understand you clearly in the way you communicate and i hope you understand me clearly as well.
You ask a question, i give you a clear answer and it's understood. But for some people they can't understand this simple and direct way of communicating.
That's how it is.
 
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This is a letter my mom wrote to you all.

My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I write this letter to testify of the Lord’s mercy and power shown through His mighty works. A miracle was performed here by the Lord Himself, who saved the life of a mother and her baby. I will forever praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His goodness and mercy toward Venessa and her child.

I never came on this site for idle talk. I was compelled by the Spirit of God after hearing about some who were speaking blasphemous things against our Father God and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
After weeks of witnessing those words, I was moved by the Holy Spirit to speak truth and to rebuke two men who were leading others astray.
Also at first, there seemed to be no fault in a man called Eli1. But in time, it became clear that he had supported something that was not of God. When I stood up for righteousness, others turned against me, and even agreed with hurtful words spoken by others. I believe the enemy sowed confusion after he returned home that evening. Yet the Lord’s will was done nevertheless, for Jesus Christ still brought peace and help to the women and children who cried out to Him. Glory be to the Lord of Hosts, for all deliverance belongs to Him.
I am a missionary—a voice crying in the wilderness, “Prepare ye the way of the Lord!” I do not rebuke by my own understanding but by the direction of the Holy Spirit and through the letters sent for prayer. My heart’s desire is that all people repent and come to faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
My heart is heavy for those who excuse sin and call evil good, yet I know the Lord is righteous. His justice will not sleep forever. Soon He will crush Satan under His feet, and every wicked spirit shall be cast down. The day is coming when Jesus Christ will return in glory, and all who believe shall be gathered to Him in everlasting peace.
As John the Baptist cried out to prepare the way, so I cry today: repent and turn to the Lord, for His kingdom is near. As written in Revelation, I look forward to the holy city—the new Jerusalem—coming down from God out of heaven. The Lord shall wipe away every tear, and there shall be no more death, sorrow, or pain. The former things will pass away, and we shall dwell forever in the presence of the Lamb.
Amen, and amen. All glory to Jesus Christ, who reigns forevermore.
Yours in His service.

Branch
 
Untrue she's had only one account Branch. I've had two both under the name daisy.

She had a passion for the area and I think that is to be commended. My sense was she was desiring to raise awareness and was using data to support her message.

Seems the obvious needs to be stated that not all opinions are equal and people give advice every minute of the hour on areas that are not their area of expertise and sometimes a fresh set of untrained eyes can be very helpful.

And generally speaking those who run in gangs with one monolithic, indoctrinated view on topics of society, politics and culture should be avoided
 
This is a letter my mom wrote to you all.

My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I write this letter to testify of the Lord’s mercy and power shown through His mighty works. A miracle was performed here by the Lord Himself, who saved the life of a mother and her baby. I will forever praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His goodness and mercy toward Venessa and her child.

I never came on this site for idle talk. I was compelled by the Spirit of God after hearing about some who were speaking blasphemous things against our Father God and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
After weeks of witnessing those words, I was moved by the Holy Spirit to speak truth and to rebuke two men who were leading others astray.
Also at first, there seemed to be no fault in a man called Eli1. But in time, it became clear that he had supported something that was not of God. When I stood up for righteousness, others turned against me, and even agreed with hurtful words spoken by others. I believe the enemy sowed confusion after he returned home that evening. Yet the Lord’s will was done nevertheless, for Jesus Christ still brought peace and help to the women and children who cried out to Him. Glory be to the Lord of Hosts, for all deliverance belongs to Him.
I am a missionary—a voice crying in the wilderness, “Prepare ye the way of the Lord!” I do not rebuke by my own understanding but by the direction of the Holy Spirit and through the letters sent for prayer. My heart’s desire is that all people repent and come to faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
My heart is heavy for those who excuse sin and call evil good, yet I know the Lord is righteous. His justice will not sleep forever. Soon He will crush Satan under His feet, and every wicked spirit shall be cast down. The day is coming when Jesus Christ will return in glory, and all who believe shall be gathered to Him in everlasting peace.
As John the Baptist cried out to prepare the way, so I cry today: repent and turn to the Lord, for His kingdom is near. As written in Revelation, I look forward to the holy city—the new Jerusalem—coming down from God out of heaven. The Lord shall wipe away every tear, and there shall be no more death, sorrow, or pain. The former things will pass away, and we shall dwell forever in the presence of the Lamb.
Amen, and amen. All glory to Jesus Christ, who reigns forevermore.
Yours in His service.

Branch


Theosis is not the Gospel, not part of the evangelical movement, and that will explain it all.
 
This is a letter my mom wrote to you all.

My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I write this letter to testify of the Lord’s mercy and power shown through His mighty works. A miracle was performed here by the Lord Himself, who saved the life of a mother and her baby. I will forever praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His goodness and mercy toward Venessa and her child.

I never came on this site for idle talk. I was compelled by the Spirit of God after hearing about some who were speaking blasphemous things against our Father God and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
After weeks of witnessing those words, I was moved by the Holy Spirit to speak truth and to rebuke two men who were leading others astray.
Also at first, there seemed to be no fault in a man called Eli1. But in time, it became clear that he had supported something that was not of God. When I stood up for righteousness, others turned against me, and even agreed with hurtful words spoken by others. I believe the enemy sowed confusion after he returned home that evening. Yet the Lord’s will was done nevertheless, for Jesus Christ still brought peace and help to the women and children who cried out to Him. Glory be to the Lord of Hosts, for all deliverance belongs to Him.
I am a missionary—a voice crying in the wilderness, “Prepare ye the way of the Lord!” I do not rebuke by my own understanding but by the direction of the Holy Spirit and through the letters sent for prayer. My heart’s desire is that all people repent and come to faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
My heart is heavy for those who excuse sin and call evil good, yet I know the Lord is righteous. His justice will not sleep forever. Soon He will crush Satan under His feet, and every wicked spirit shall be cast down. The day is coming when Jesus Christ will return in glory, and all who believe shall be gathered to Him in everlasting peace.
As John the Baptist cried out to prepare the way, so I cry today: repent and turn to the Lord, for His kingdom is near. As written in Revelation, I look forward to the holy city—the new Jerusalem—coming down from God out of heaven. The Lord shall wipe away every tear, and there shall be no more death, sorrow, or pain. The former things will pass away, and we shall dwell forever in the presence of the Lamb.
Amen, and amen. All glory to Jesus Christ, who reigns forevermore.
Yours in His service.

Branch

The Gospel is always the test and if they cannot clearly articulate it then we need to remember...


To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Isaiah 8:20


Always proceed with caution in the world, there are many imposters. I hope you will continue your efforts as God leads you.
 
Now is a good time for the rest of the adults to properly speak about this topic.
 
Awareness is so important because as soon as you realize your in the circle of abuse. It changes everything. You don't have to become the person that hurt you.
 
Says the one who worked so hard to throw it off track. @HeIsHere, I give you leave to take over—if you would like.

Your mother throws it off track because she can't answer questions.
A lot of boomers have this problem. We have another member here called GWH with that same attitude which is "my way or the highway".

And as a lot of adults here have said, just call the secular channels for any countries involved. This isn't a mystery.
 
Says the one who worked so hard to throw it off track. @HeIsHere, I give you leave to take over—if you would like.

I really appreciate the information from the book perhaps we can converse further on it at some point privately.

However this thread has been tainted sadly and nothing good comes from interacting with negative narrow minded people who think it is their "job" to critique everyone else incessantly.
 
I really appreciate the information from the book perhaps we can converse further on it at some point privately.

However this thread has been tainted sadly and nothing good comes from interacting with negative narrow minded people who think it is their "job" to critique everyone else incessantly.

This thread was tainted on post 85 when the OP wants to shut down the Internet.