Oh. I thought the hail Mary was a prayer.Catholics do not worship Mary. They venerate Mary only.
Oh. I thought the hail Mary was a prayer.Catholics do not worship Mary. They venerate Mary only.
Inappropriately, based on human tradition, not on Scripture.Catholics do not worship Mary. They venerate Mary only.
I suggest you read #525Inappropriately, based on human tradition, not on Scripture.
The bible does not record the death of Peter, Paul and Mary too.Inappropriately, based on human tradition, not on Scripture.
Your point?The bible does not record the death of Peter, Paul and Mary too.
Nothing in 525 says anything about Mary.I suggest you read #525
Follow your own advice.You read back one page to see what is going on in this thread!
Inappropriately, based on human tradition, not on Scripture.
Your point?
'not on scripture' in your #562, does not mean would not be happening.Your point?
The whole concept of the assumption of Mary is built around the erroneous belief that she is something other than a ordinary human being who happened to be chosen for an extraordinary task. If the gross misunderstanding about Mary didn't exist, there would be no reason to create ridiculous fantasies about her.The word 'trinity' is not found in scripture, but the theology is inferred from bible verses.
In the same manner, Mary's Assumption is not proven by a single verse, but inferred from biblical patterns and theological reasoning.
With respect, you quoted me but addressed 'beechan'. Care to try again?Dear Beechan
They do i and believed.
What record do you've about them? Wanna share with us?
Thanks and kind regards
Clay
How about trying again with a complete sentence.'not on scripture' in your #562, does not mean would not be happening.
The point is you cannot use 'not in scripture' as a reason to turn down a theology.The whole concept of the assumption of Mary is built around the erroneous belief that she is something other than a ordinary human being who happened to be chosen for an extraordinary task. If the gross misunderstanding about Mary didn't exist, there would be no reason to create ridiculous fantasies about her.
Critical thinking isn't his strong suit.What accusation? Quote it.
I am under no obligation to find anything for you. Scripture teaches the trinity by clear implication. Scripture does not teach the assumption of Mary by anything at all. It's simply rebadged idolatry from pagan roots.The point is you cannot use 'not in scripture' as a reason to turn down a theology.
If that is your argument, you should not have believed in trinity too.
(Some Protestant denominations do disprove trinity! I hope you were not one of them.)
Find me a better argument to disprove Assumption of Mary!
Oh. I thought the hail Mary was a prayer.
So you don't know how scriptures teach Assumption of Mary by clear implication. Your church does not tell you that and you are not too willing to learn it from Catholics.I am under no obligation to find anything for you. Scripture teaches the trinity by clear implication. Scripture does not teach the assumption of Mary by anything at all. It's simply rebadged idolatry from pagan roots.
Mary, please help me to bring my message and prayer to Christ.
May be when Martin Luther left the church , his church was so poor and cannot afford making statues good for worshiping GOD.Since statues were expensive and timely to make, the Romans, after making Christianity their state religion around 385AD, renamed the statues and temples to fit their polytheistic idea of religion. They also encouraged (and still do) praying to the dead saints for their assistance. All they did was replace the Roman deities. With the names of Bible characters and saints. A simple google search will find a list of dead saints and their assumed powers of helps.
This was also done to assuage the Roman populous: instead of tearing down the polytheistic religious structure of the empire (overseen by a man with the title Pontifex Maximus ... the same title still reserved for the Pope today) the people were essentially allowed to continue their pagan rituals just with different deities: the Christian saints and the "queen of heaven", Mary.
Certainly, there is much more I could write about this.