Does Jesus and Paul contradict each other?

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first, you saying I follow a devil ? I follow Jesus. I would very careful as to what You say of my Lord. You have not told the truth that is the same as lying.
Not true. You don't follow Jesus. You can't be Christian and follow Jesus. You follow Paul
 
first, you saying I follow a devil ? I follow Jesus. I would very careful as to what You say of my Lord. You have not told the truth that is the same as lying.
anyone who follows the laws and teachings of Jesus would fit that bill. You on the other hand follow pope innocent the III and John Calvin. Here let me use Jesus words he told the pharisees who followed the same god as Jews who accepted Aberham as their Father and Moses as their prophet.
John 8
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
 
anyone who follows the laws and teachings of Jesus would fit that bill. You on the other hand follow pope innocent the III and John Calvin. Here let me use Jesus words he told the pharisees who followed the same god as Jews who accepted Aberham as their Father and Moses as their prophet.
John 8
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Now, who's the devil now? Do you know what
anyone who follows the laws and teachings of Jesus would fit that bill. You on the other hand follow pope innocent the III and John Calvin. Here let me use Jesus words he told the pharisees who followed the same god as Jews who accepted Aberham as their Father and Moses as their prophet.
John 8
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Which one do you like most, Jesus or Paul?
 
first, you saying I follow a devil ? I follow Jesus. I would very careful as to what You say of my Lord. You have not told the truth that is the same as lying.
Your god says kill them all and let god sort out the Catholics. Your god kills babies for coming against predestination. Your god hardens pharos heart and commands he lets his people go. Your god finds Jephthahs vergin daughter as a pleasing burt offering. Your God says I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Then turns around and says in me there is no darkness. You follow an evil god.
 
John 5:39-47


39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. 41 I do not receive glory from people. 42 But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. 43 I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44 How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?”
 
Thats all im saying here. Fallow what Jesus says. You can trust him.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
If anything else, I'm hoping that people will see how strongly Christians come against the teachings of Jesus Christ and try to justify it with the teachings of Paul. It's absurd. I'm not trying to tell anyone what they need to do, but at least discern that and see if it's an error according to the words of Jesus, see how the gospel of Paul is backed up by the words of Jesus, it's not. I Believe that Paul shows some valuable information and insight that can grow your faith, but he's not perfect. Why rely on an imperfect source that use to kill Christians and says that he has a private revelation like Joseph Smith and that you should follow my gospel when you could just follow Jesus and the requirement for your salvation has been paid in full
 
Thats all im saying here. Fallow what Jesus says. You can trust him.

Paul received the revelation from Jesus.

Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Paul was the 12th apostle who replaces Judas Iscariot.
 
Just for a reference

Pauls Gospel

Paul's gospel is centered on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, which provides salvation and reconciliation to God for believers. His message emphasizes that this salvation is a gift received through faith in what Jesus has done, leading to a new life and eventual resurrection, and that Jesus is the power of God for salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. It also includes concepts like being "in Christ," being reconciled to God, and the future judgment and new creation.

Jesus Gospel

The "Gospel according to his words" refers to the teachings and commands of Jesus, most prominently found in the four canonical Gospels of the New Testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Key examples include the Beatitudes (Matthew 5) about the blessed life and the Sermon on the Mount, which outlines principles for living a righteous life, and the "Great Commission" (Matthew 28:16-20), where Jesus instructs his followers to make disciples. Some interpretations emphasize his calls to action, like taking his "yoke" and learning from him, which requires a personal response of obedience and faith, not just belief.
 
Paul received the revelation from Jesus.

Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Paul was the 12th apostle who replaces Judas Iscariot.
I just posted an overview of Paul and Jesus Gospel. Now show me how they work together and validate Pauls Gospel with the words of Jesus.
 
Just for a reference

Pauls Gospel

Paul's gospel is centered on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, which provides salvation and reconciliation to God for believers. His message emphasizes that this salvation is a gift received through faith in what Jesus has done, leading to a new life and eventual resurrection, and that Jesus is the power of God for salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. It also includes concepts like being "in Christ," being reconciled to God, and the future judgment and new creation.

Jesus Gospel

The "Gospel according to his words" refers to the teachings and commands of Jesus, most prominently found in the four canonical Gospels of the New Testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Key examples include the Beatitudes (Matthew 5) about the blessed life and the Sermon on the Mount, which outlines principles for living a righteous life, and the "Great Commission" (Matthew 28:16-20), where Jesus instructs his followers to make disciples. Some interpretations emphasize his calls to action, like taking his "yoke" and learning from him, which requires a personal response of obedience and faith, not just belief.

Joseph Smith name is not in heaven. You can't visit him or ask him. No visitors allowed in hell.
 
God bless. I pray you find peace in Jesus way.

Jesus is inside me, he build me from inside. He knows my name when I'm in my mother's womb.

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

I love Apostle Paul.
 
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