about PRAYER

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
My posts did no contain doubt, because i do not stand in doubt, I stand in the faith of the Lord.





Do you really think that it's God's fault that so many Christians are living far far below what the Lord has for His people?

Apparently you do because you are saying God needs to straighten us all out.

How about Christians start submitting themselves unto the Lord, learning of His Word, choosing to walk in agreement with Him and quit being carnally minded following fables of men that can only generate false teachings?

When are Christians going to learn we are to be co laborers with the Lord working together with Him? 1 Corinthians 3:9

Wow thank you, love you, and have continued mercy on you too. God assuredly does that fro us all. Hopi ng the best for us all
thank you for your admonishments love em
"Beat me hurt me, maker ne a believer" Love from god is for us all and to us all. Are you a believer in the risen Son? Thanks for the answer
 
Ephesians 2:8 - by grace are ye saved through faith

Without walking in faith, nobody can access the grace for salvation

Faith is given, it is through Faith, you posted truth thank you
You do Question people a lot, can you tell me why please?
 
You do Question people a lot, can you tell me why please?

I question false doctrine and call those out that are teaching it and post truth from God's Word.

In Matthew 24 Jesus teaches that deception is the most dangerous thing His followers face in the last days.
 
Ephesians 2:8 - by grace are ye saved through faith

Without walking in faith, nobody can access the grace for salvation

As God knows each person assuredly, and will take care of all errors people make consciously,, speaking to me, knowing the truth each person will get into, whatever each one does on purpose
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I assuredly do not want to go th=o any lake of fire ever, God knows, I hope the same for everyone else
Do you agree?, thanks
 
I question false doctrine and call those out that are teaching it and post truth from God's Word.

In Matthew 24 Jesus teaches that deception is the most dangerous thing His followers face in the last days.

So, you are saying I, and others are doing that, and that you know better than others?
Are you perfect? Have you come to te point of no sin ever again in your own personal life?
Just asking and leveling the playing Field.
2 Cor 10:5-6
 
As God knows each person assuredly, and will take care of all errors people make consciously,

God does not just magically "take care" of people's sin.

According to Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9, we must confess and forsake our sins to be forgiven and have mercy



So, you are saying I, and others are doing that, and that you know better than others?
Are you perfect? Have you come to te point of no sin ever again in your own personal life?
Just asking and leveling the playing Field.
2 Cor 10:5-6

They you go, listening to the enemy to attack anyone advocating for believing and acting on God's Word.
 
God does not just magically "take care" of people's sin.

According to Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9, we must confess and forsake our sins to be forgiven and have mercy





They you go, listening to the enemy to attack anyone advocating for believing and acting on God's Word.

He did that once for us all Hebrews 10:10, it is done per John 10:10, Father by Son took away sin John 1;29 for a new life in God's Spirit and Truth to begin John 4:23-24
We have or at least I have exhausted the truth of God's Love and mercy to you for you to do right over wrong, as I suspect you are not in yet, God is still hanging on the phone, and I need God daily to lead not me
Love and mercy from god to you too, thank you have a blessed day
 
He did that once for us all Hebrews 10:10, it is done per John 10:10, Father by Son took away sin

So you believe is we sin after becoming a believer all of our sins are already forgiven and we should ignore scripture verses that tell us we should confess and turn away from out sin?

That's what the fake grace teachers teach such as Joseph Prince, Andrew Woman, Charles Stanley among other fake ministers.



God is still hanging on the phone, and I need God daily to lead not me

Which carrier does the Lord use for his phone service?

You're not making a lot of sense over there.

Maybe rephrase?
 
So you believe is we sin after becoming a believer all of our sins are already forgiven and we should ignore scripture verses that tell us we should confess and turn away from out sin?

That's what the fake grace teachers teach such as Joseph Prince, Andrew Woman, Charles Stanley among other fake ministers.





Which carrier does the Lord use for his phone service?

You're not making a lot of sense over there.

Maybe rephrase?

Okay, you might be on your way and are sincere in beleif to Father and Son as Won for you. Yet you are denying it is done for you by Son t you, by having to do things to remain saved by God
I am not talking taking advantage of sin as you seem to be saying you do not want to do. Thank you
I am talking thankfulness to God, since no other flesh but Son's could ever be perfect. Then ask and trust God to teach you personally in the love and mercy of Son given you to do right and not abuse or accuse or excuse self or anyone else
The call is: to love all the same as Son did, going to that cross willingly once for us all. To save us in his risen Life, given to nut by Father from beleif to this truth. If one is sincere, then that one will learn truth over error still here in this world we are in
I am elated you desire to do good over evil.yet, no other flesh can do it, no one else but Son. He did it miraculously for you and all people 1 John 2:1-27 God desires to teach you new, between God and you personally, how to love all in the same mercy , love and truth son did first. He willingly ugly went to that cross without a fight back in flesh and blood
That is Amazing grace Father, Daddy, PaPa and Son give to all to chose to be thankful for beign. given it and never use it for the self to get things here and now. Stand in trust to get you through it, honestly. Go through troubles endlessly here on earth willingly, God will reveal truth to you to rest in them while going. through them, if go through them.
Troubles here on earth is a short time compared to eternity without troubles ever again Wow woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7
 
Yet you are denying it is done

So you deny that we reap what we sow then right?

If we sin we are sowing to the flesh and we are reaping corruption talked about in Galatians chapter 6

It also says we are mocking God is we say we do not reap what we sow

Do you believe 1 John 1:9 is true or is it a lie?
 
So you deny that we reap what we sow then right?

If we sin we are sowing to the flesh and we are reaping corruption talked about in Galatians chapter 6

It also says we are mocking God is we say we do not reap what we sow

Do you believe 1 John 1:9 is true or is it a lie?

Hmm, the christian barn of Soap, wow!
talk about misinterpreting
I John was written to a pastor that wrote to John to get heresy straightened out
What was that heresy?
people in that gathering, not all of them certain ones. That got the thought, since no flesh can please God. Then Son was not here on earth in flesh and blood. Could not have been here

So John writes back (remember, this was the answer to those that said Jesus ddi not come here in the flesh, since no flesh can please God.


Authorized (King James) Version

1 John 1:1-4


1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (for the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 3 that which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

Jesus came here on the earth in the only flesh and blood that has pleased Father

This was written to those that do not believe God sent Son in flesh and blood through the woman Mary of the tribe of Judah

And said to believe. If do not believe God, then you do not know God and are paving out your own way to be saved and no other way but by through risen son is anyone saved by God the Father of risen Son for us all. And as you still do sin too, as you know you have and still do, God saves you too. This is not for taking for granted to sin and harm others as the Corinthian's did at first, who took this grace gift for granted and ate all the food, drank all the wine and got drunk and took women for sex, without any compassion. They had not received the truth of God's love and mercy for us all, they misunderstood the reconciliation on given them. Then they got 1 corinthians read to them and they saw their error
Then repented as stated in. 2 cor 7.. They saw Love true love for us all and not to harm anyone on purpose ever.
God could have had Son just kill us all, instead of doing to a killing death to us all, that we all deserve to have gotten. It was to get offered new life in his risen Life and love all in response to this done work for us. No other flesh can do it
Are you freed from sin? Do you, can you still sin?
From what I am hearing you say is:
Whoever sins again is not saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! therefore no one is saved by your calculations, not even you, since all have sinned
You might need to re-read Galatians 1-3 thank you Love you in God's mercy and truth for all, not a few thank you
 
If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not?
They have no developed their faith so that's on them seeing the Lord "According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue" 2 Peter 1:3

2 Timothy 2:12 - If we deny Him, He also will deny us

Remember, we reap what we sow according to God's Word.

So the lesson should be to not quit and if we screw up we should repent immediately and get back on course walking with the Lord once again and grow spiritually so we quit getting off track into sin and living after the flesh following our own carnal desires instead of living to please the Lord desiring what He wants.

Making excuses for not knowing God's Word and not walking with the Lord isn't going to work out very well at all.
I hope you continue growing spiritually and get past making excuses

Proverbs 1:20-33 - Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

He certainly does have great understanding and the Lord is trying to share them with His people, but some keep balking

1 Corinthians 2:9-16 - But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Re "If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not?": I would not blame you
for lacking enough faith to cure cancer (for example), but if you would blame yourself, then that is your fault, not God's.
 
Whoever sins again is not saved!

You claim to have NEVER sinned after having been born again?

Sounds like you need some 1 John 1:9 in your life!




Re "If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not?": I would not blame you
for lacking enough faith to cure cancer (for example), but if you would blame yourself, then that is your fault, not God's.

IN other words, when God promises something He does not fulfill His promises?

That is accusing God of being a liar

God is not the problem and we know the devil cannot over power us so that just leaves people as being the problem.

The problem is failing to know what God promised and then kn owing how to walk in and receive God's promises.

That's being a glass half empty kinda person. A debbie downer, a negative nancy

It's too bad to some people have been taught like this because it's not of God.
 
Pffft.. faith faith works by love yet you say this "and let's forget the modern word of faith junk because". Modern? .. sorry side note.. I love this song playing.. . have to share by Petra "We Exalt Thee oh oh lord". Yes amen..

Not here to teach .. take Peter and John at the Gate beautiful. They said have no sliver and no gold what what we do have give I unto you in JESUS...... . They didn't pray to the Father did they? They didn't pray at all. Yet this is with in what your talking about but anyway. Do you understand why its written "but only faith activated and expressed and working through love."

Take this you said "If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not? " So preacher prays for a man and he is healed. Later days or weeks sees the man out side and the man said "it came back" so this preacher stayed with him for hours to teach him faith and prayed for him again and this time "it never came back". Do you understand? The man of God took the time to teach just that one person. Again.. faith works by love. Knowing all this with out love.. blah blah blah

Oh ever think about how GOD comes to us.. He spoke to Abram first so forth so on. He comes to us.. He talks to us where we are.. meets us where we are. I believe help my unbelief, I know you can but do you want to. In both of those it was yes. He about to Judge looked for just one among them to build a wall to stand in the gap so He didn't have to yet found known. Also if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. Do you understand? Were here to help all.. they will know you are mine by your love one for another. Every word we speak matters and how.

This is what comes to me "For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. " Soberly. Thanks for your post.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: homwardbound
Pffft.. faith faith works by love yet you say this "and let's forget the modern word of faith junk because". Modern? .. sorry side note.. I love this song playing.. . have to share by Petra "We Exalt Thee oh oh lord". Yes amen..

Not here to teach .. take Peter and John at the Gate beautiful. They said have no sliver and no gold what what we do have give I unto you in JESUS...... . They didn't pray to the Father did they? They didn't pray at all. Yet this is with in what your talking about but anyway. Do you understand why its written "but only faith activated and expressed and working through love."

Take this you said "If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not? " So preacher prays for a man and he is healed. Later days or weeks sees the man out side and the man said "it came back" so this preacher stayed with him for hours to teach him faith and prayed for him again and this time "it never came back". Do you understand? The man of God took the time to teach just that one person. Again.. faith works by love. Knowing all this with out love.. blah blah blah

Oh ever think about how GOD comes to us.. He spoke to Abram first so forth so on. He comes to us.. He talks to us where we are.. meets us where we are. I believe help my unbelief, I know you can but do you want to. In both of those it was yes. He about to Judge looked for just one among them to build a wall to stand in the gap so He didn't have to yet found known. Also if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. Do you understand? Were here to help all.. they will know you are mine by your love one for another. Every word we speak matters and how.

This is what comes to me "For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. " Soberly. Thanks for your post.....

which resorts, God continues in God's love and mercy of Son for us all. Son risen not dead, where new life is a gift of Love and continued mercy for us all, from God y'all. I see Romans 1, get a little angry or even arrogant and think like that Pharisee in Luke 18:9-14 I get reminded to not accuse, abuse or excuse myself or anyone else Romans 2:1-4 confirms that to me at least
Love overcomes evil and overcame evil in the resurrected Son for us the people to believe and stand in. Once gvien and accept, not reject, one sees to simply continue to move forward in thankfulness, daily for me at least. Learning, learning, learned and see to remain as if don't know, Matthew 10:16-20 sticks out to me, not easy being green, to see to not harm anyone as God chose not to harm us. Chose self to go the death in our deserved places, me at least, Thank you Father and Son as Won for us all to be new in your love and mercy, wow, Isaiah 6:1-7
 
Have blessed day, Father does not quit reaching out for us all, thanks bye

Missed the point as usual.

You going on a trip or something?



Take this you said "If someone really "does not have enough faith" then that would be their fault would it not? "

You think it's God's fault? Maybe you think the devil is all powerful and we have no way to escape his attacks?

2 Peter 1:3 says God has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness so who is the responsible party failing to received from the Lord?

Kinda smells like you are in the blame game either blaming God for your failures or the devil making yourself out to be one with no responsibility in reaping what YOU have sown.

I used to do this myself thinking it's always someone else's fault until the Lord taught me I reap what I sow and I was responsible for making a mess out of my life in my early years. This opened the door for me to realize I need to make some changes and become responsible for my own decisions or lack thereof.


This is what comes to me "For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. " Soberly. Thanks for your post.....

Yes, soberly as is waking up to the fact God is not our problem and we can run the devil off by submitting ourselves to the Lord and resisting the devil and get him out of the way.




God continues in God's love and mercy of Son for us all.

You think God does everything for us and we have no responsibility

Life is all "sera sera" (whatever will be, will be) and we have no part of control in what happens to us in our lives?