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this is just chatter, the word of God does the work of giving you the mind of Christ. The holyspirit gives
the power.
yes the word of God is the Living Water we should drink EVERY day, yet people get so caught up in the "spirit" and their experiences. they forget that Jesus said they are to be born again of the WATER and the Spirit.

water of repentance some say but what are you repenting of?

do you only drink once and go about your life as if you ARE GOD

or do you pray daily and seek Him and HIS will for your life, so He might transform your mind?

Do you ask GOD what you shoud be repenting or do you assume that you ARE perfect and equal to Him already?

Do you visit the well of wisdom found in His Holy Bible daily?

question every heart should ask themselves.
 
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this is just chatter, the word of God does the work of giving you the mind of Christ. The holyspirit gives
the power.
The word,the lLaw, is only a tutorial, schoolmaster, an instruction manuel on how to that lead you to a finshed product, a guide on how to get there the Christ in you. Following those instructions without deviation will lead to Christ in you, which is Gods Holy Spirit in you, anointed of Gods Holy Spirit. Then you will have power ffom on high to tread on those things which would keep you from being anything less than.
 
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we do imitate him, we do draw power from Him. No impartation(transformation)comes without it.

The secret of a holy life lies not in imitating Jesus, but in letting the perfections of Jesus manifest themselves in my mortal flesh. Only then will you be like him and only then will you be.

Want to immitate Him? There is only one way and that is to have in you what He had in Him. Let Him be manifest in you as he was in Christ Jesus, then you are in His immage.
 
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you are being ilogical and careless with God's Holy Words.
you intentionally and disrespectfully blur the lines between the word begotten and the concept of being born again.

they are NOT the same. Jesus is the ONLY Begotten son of GOD. others maybe be born again THROUGH the Holy Spirit but there is a difference.

We are NOT little replicas or mini Gods.

it "Mary gave birth to the seed" and we are to "give birth to the seed" why is Mary not called CHRIST? How is it that HER "christ in her" took the form of a small Child? Instead of what we have: an indwelling Holy SPIRIT. that in itself should open your eyes to your error, but in my heart I am sadden that it will probably NOT show you the difference between JESUS CHRIST the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD and everyone else who are Adopted born again believers and followers of CHRIST.

Followers of JESUS CHRIST our LORD AND SAVIOR, guided by the HOLY Spirit but followers of JESUS who is the ONE and ONLY CHRIST.

The Resurrection is NOT the same as having the indwelling HOLY Spirit wash you clean of your sins and raise you up again in His Spiritual rebirth by giving you a NEW Spirit and NEW Heart. the Resurrection is when God's children will be given a NEW BODY.

If anyone wants to follow you that is their choice but when we all come before the throne of God on Judgment day, when JESUS WILL RETURN IN HIS RESURRECTED BODY and judge the LIVING and the DEAD. they can not claim to not have been warned. they will have no excuse.

May God have mercy upon your souls.


Amen we are not little gods, no man is a god unless you worship a man as a god as many do. God is a Spirit not a man, He resides in the man, The kingdom of God is within you.

You are saddened because of your laws for tradition will not allow you to be that seed barrier that Mary was and have in you what she received from God and give birth to that same Spirit. And Mary is not called the Christ because she gave birth to Gods Spirit who is the Christ. Believe it or not Mary was anointed of Gods Spirit.

Christ simply means to be anointed of God, Gods Spirit in you. Do you not know that Christ means the anointed one? Jesus was the Christ because he was anointed of Gods Spirit. And the same Spirit that raised him from the dead is the same one who raised me from the dead.


And don’t follow me, follow the one who sent me who is the Christ. And all who do follow do come before His throne and sit with Him in His throne, Rev 3:22. And today is your day of judgment either you are dead and Christ lives in you, or you live and Christ died. And the warning that goes out is this. Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Let this same mind be in you who was in Christ Jesus. Walk as He walks, pick up that cross and continue where he left off.

As long as you refuse Him you will never know what it is to be in Gods will for you and have these things, but the moment you do all these things will be added to you. His will is that ye be.

The resurrection is Christ risen in you. Until then He is not risen at all and you never have seen Him.

And a born again believer is Christ manifest in your mortal flesh. Same everything Christ has to offer you. Jesus was Christ because he was anointed of Gods Spirit. SO are all who has the same.

And He did have mercy on my soul and gave me His life, His life in me.
 
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you are being ilogical and careless with God's Holy Words.
you intentionally and disrespectfully blur the lines between the word begotten and the concept of being born again.

they are NOT the same. Jesus is the ONLY Begotten son of GOD. others maybe be born again THROUGH the Holy Spirit but there is a difference.

We are NOT little replicas or mini Gods.

it "Mary gave birth to the seed" and we are to "give birth to the seed" why is Mary not called CHRIST? How is it that HER "christ in her" took the form of a small Child? Instead of what we have: an indwelling Holy SPIRIT. that in itself should open your eyes to your error, but in my heart I am sadden that it will probably NOT show you the difference between JESUS CHRIST the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD and everyone else who are Adopted born again believers and followers of CHRIST.

Followers of JESUS CHRIST our LORD AND SAVIOR, guided by the HOLY Spirit but followers of JESUS who is the ONE and ONLY CHRIST.

The Resurrection is NOT the same as having the indwelling HOLY Spirit wash you clean of your sins and raise you up again in His Spiritual rebirth by giving you a NEW Spirit and NEW Heart. the Resurrection is when God's children will be given a NEW BODY.

If anyone wants to follow you that is their choice but when we all come before the throne of God on Judgment day, when JESUS WILL RETURN IN HIS RESURRECTED BODY and judge the LIVING and the DEAD. they can not claim to not have been warned. they will have no excuse.

May God have mercy upon your souls.
By the way -- there is nothing logical about you having in you what Jesus had in him. Logic would have it that you cant.
 
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The secret of a holy life lies not in imitating Jesus, but in letting the perfections of Jesus manifest themselves in my mortal flesh. Only then will you be like him and only then will you be.

Want to immitate Him? There is only one way and that is to have in you what He had in Him. Let Him be manifest in you as he was in Christ Jesus, then you are in His immage.
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your wrong mr false teacher. We do imitate Him and obey His commandments as He asked us to.
Then He sends the comforter, then Him and the Father come in us to sup. Then in continuing in His
word we become disciples.

Like i said to you on day one you are trying to streamline the life our Lord instructed us to have
with a gnostic gospel. That will guide sheep away from the true walk in the Lord. And from His
word into a mental selfdelusion.
 
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The secret of a holy life lies not in imitating Jesus, but in letting the perfections of Jesus manifest themselves in my mortal flesh. Only then will you be like him and only then will you be.

Want to immitate Him? There is only one way and that is to have in you what He had in Him. Let Him be manifest in you as he was in Christ Jesus, then you are in His immage.

Gnostic nonsence gary..........quit rewriting the bible
Jesus said if you love me obey my commandments.
He didnt say think just in me in you thoughts and poof
youll be like me. This is plain makebelieve.
 
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yes the word of God is the Living Water we should drink EVERY day, yet people get so caught up in the "spirit" and their experiences. they forget that Jesus said they are to be born again of the WATER and the Spirit.

water of repentance some say but what are you repenting of?

do you only drink once and go about your life as if you ARE GOD

or do you pray daily and seek Him and HIS will for your life, so He might transform your mind?

Do you ask GOD what you shoud be repenting or do you assume that you ARE perfect and equal to Him already?

Do you visit the well of wisdom found in His Holy Bible daily?

question every heart should ask themselves.
We in Christ are that well which out from it flows living waters .
And born of water and Spirit, water significant in that without it the flesh dies, and Spirit without it the soul dies. Can’t have one without the other.
We who has His Spirit that well never runs dry and if you drink from it you will never thirst again.

The transformation is when you set asides your knowledge and put on His knowledge, His way is not your way. We receive feom Him His way by His Spirit be in us, Christ in you.

The well of wisdom comes only by Christ in you, same mind same Spirit. A question we all have to ask, am I or am I not like Him?
 
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By the way gary you havnt a clue apparently what the word of God is.
Its what saves us. Jesus said His word was spirit and life. It sanctifies us.
Your subjective experience is only that.
 
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your wrong mr false teacher. We do imitate Him and obey His commandments as He asked us to.
Then He sends the comforter, then Him and the Father come in us to sup. Then in continuing in His
word we become disciples.

Like i said to you on day one you are trying to streamline the life our Lord instructed us to have
with a gnostic gospel. That will guide sheep away from the true walk in the Lord. And from His
word into a mental selfdelusion.

If you do imitate and follow His commandments you would be like Him. His commandment is be as I am and one with me.

And He does send the comforter who is the Holy Spirit and makes His abode in you, the Christ in you. Anointed of Gods Holy Spirit. Mind.

First you are a disciple then if you faint not then you become like him, He in you and you in Him as one. A disciple follows the way of Christ and leads you to that place of the mercy seat, the place God and man comes together as one.

To guide sheep away from the true walk is to tell them sorry, you cant walk as He does, you cant have the same mind as He does, you cant be His temple, His vessel, sorry but you cant be perfect even as He is perfect, sorry but you cant have the Christ in you. Sorry you cant be in Him and He in you as one. And this is exactly what you are teaching. Contrary to everything Christ said for us to be and one with Him.
 
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By the way gary you havnt a clue apparently what the word of God is.
Its what saves us. Jesus said His word was spirit and life. It sanctifies us.
Your subjective experience is only that.
The word cant save you at all it can only lead you to His salvation and salvation is Gods SPirit manifest in your mortal flesh. Christ didnt come to save you but that ye might be saved. IF.
 
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The people on this thread go round and round, round and round, round and round....

Yikes.

If somebody insists on something strongly enough, SURELY they can make it TRUE, right?

Anybody have any aspirin?
 

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The word cant save you at all it can only lead you to His salvation and salvation is Gods SPirit manifest in your mortal flesh. Christ didnt come to save you but that ye might be saved. IF.
was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
 
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If you do imitate and follow His commandments you would be like Him. His commandment is be as I am and one with me.

And He does send the comforter who is the Holy Spirit and makes His abode in you, the Christ in you. Anointed of Gods Holy Spirit. Mind.

First you are a disciple then if you faint not then you become like him, He in you and you in Him as one. A disciple follows the way of Christ and leads you to that place of the mercy seat, the place God and man comes together as one.

To guide sheep away from the true walk is to tell them sorry, you cant walk as He does, you cant have the same mind as He does, you cant be His temple, His vessel, sorry but you cant be perfect even as He is perfect, sorry but you cant have the Christ in you. Sorry you cant be in Him and He in you as one. And this is exactly what you are teaching. Contrary to everything Christ said for us to be and one with Him.
Gary ive never heard anyone say those things to sheep. But ive heard plenty put the cart before the horse
and that just doesnt work,
 
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The word cant save you at all it can only lead you to His salvation and salvation is Gods SPirit manifest in your mortal flesh. Christ didnt come to save you but that ye might be saved. IF.
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Gary quit teaching falsely and leading sheep away from the pen, what does this verse mean?
I can supply hundreds of verses both old and new testament.

1 Peter 1:22-25
King James Version (KJV)
22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
 
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By the way gary you havnt a clue apparently what the word of God is.
Its what saves us. Jesus said His word was spirit and life. It sanctifies us.
Your subjective experience is only that.

The word of God lies in all who have His SPirit. we are His living word. Jesus Christ came to put into any man who would let Him a new heredity which would exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees. And you must be so pure in your motives that God Almighty can see nothing to censure.

Jesus Christ claims that by His Redemption He can put into any man His own disposition, and make him as unsullied and as simple as a child. The disposition of Jesus Christ is what the Holy Spirit does in you. The purity which God demands is impossible unless I can be remade within, and that is what Jesus has undertaken to do by His Redemption.

Who can stand in His light with nothing to censure? Only a son of God who has been redeemed from the law of sin and death associated with carnality and laws for tradition which hold judgment to be censored by Him. One who is free is free indeed, Christ in you.

And no man can make himself pure by obeying laws. Christ does not give us rules and regulations, His truth can only be interpreted by the disposition He puts in. Christ alters heredity he doesnt alter human nature, he alters what motivates human nature.
 
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The word of God lies in all who have His SPirit. we are His living word. Jesus Christ came to put into any man who would let Him a new heredity which would exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees. And you must be so pure in your motives that God Almighty can see nothing to censure.

Jesus Christ claims that by His Redemption He can put into any man His own disposition, and make him as unsullied and as simple as a child. The disposition of Jesus Christ is what the Holy Spirit does in you. The purity which God demands is impossible unless I can be remade within, and that is what Jesus has undertaken to do by His Redemption.

Who can stand in His light with nothing to censure? Only a son of God who has been redeemed from the law of sin and death associated with carnality and laws for tradition which hold judgment to be censored by Him. One who is free is free indeed, Christ in you.

And no man can make himself pure by obeying laws. Christ does not give us rules and regulations, His truth can only be interpreted by the disposition He puts in. Christ alters heredity he doesnt alter human nature, he alters what motivates human nature.

Then you put the cart before the horse to be colorful? To get attention? To ruffle feathers?
You still make crazy statements that on the surface sound dead wrong and mislead. Im not
at all someone who can take much back and forth. Tends to appear to be nothing of value
Its my opinion only. But the bible develops spiritual doctrine. It doesnt give the answer followed
by questions. I rekon i wanted you to say you misspoke saying the word of God cant save you,
when i followed with the Word of God that says that its the word of God that IS what saves you.
But i realize you can expect too much. You too wiggly for me..I need to do other things anyway.
 
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zone

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GARYMAC:

was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
please be clear for me.
thanks.
 

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The people on this thread go round and round, round and round, round and round....

Yikes.

If somebody insists on something strongly enough, SURELY they can make it TRUE, right?

Anybody have any aspirin?
LOL, here ya go, misscriss :D *hands an aspirin over*
 
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Gary quit teaching falsely and leading sheep away from the pen, what does this verse mean?
I can supply hundreds of verses both old and new testament.

1 Peter 1:22-25
King James Version (KJV)
22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Christ thinks it better to lead the seep away from the pin, the bondage where laws for tradition hold them to doctrines of man instead of freedom in Christ. We in Christ are free from these bondages and stipulations placed on us by mans laws for tradition.

You can supply hundreds of verses in which you look at them through carnality and miss the whole meaning of what they are trying to tell you in Spirit. Discerned.

22 The only way you can purify your soul is through Christ. He puts into it His disposition which is pure and holy.

23 Corruptible seed would be anything that says He cant be in you and you in Him changing you into what He is and has for you. Anything else sells you short of His will for you.

24. The flesh man isn’t going to make it out of this alive, it is gonna die. What remains is … Next verse.

25. But the word of God is Spirit and has made His abode in you and has been in man sense Adam and preached to you the gospel of Christ of He in you and you in Him as one.