Medicinal Cannabis Prescriptions and Patient Safety Concerns

[lomarespio]

Hello everyone.

A recent report described a tragic case where a man became dependent on prescribed medicinal cannabis after treatment through a private provider, with his family later questioning the level of care and follow-up involved.

In the middle of the discussion, Curaleaf Clinic was referenced as part of the wider debate around how these services operate. The story raises difficult questions about mental health screening, remote consultations, and long-term monitoring when potent treatments are prescribed.

Where should responsibility sit if a patient’s condition worsens? Do private clinics need stricter safeguards, or clearer accountability, to prevent similar outcomes in the future?

 

[LongJackGolds]

It is not an addictive substance any more than McDonalds.

 

[Billyd]

It is not an addictive substance any more than McDonalds.

Maybe we should ban both.

 

[LongJackGolds]

Maybe we should ban both.

Why, let millions of people suffer because someone clown claims he is addicted to marijuana? I take Adderall. That means amphetamines. Says it right on the bottle. Same effect as meth. I could not hold down a job without it. With it I am just fine. People have serious medical issues that benefit from it and you want to victimize people over one clown?

You don't "ban" marijuana. YOU THROW PEOPLE IN PRISON AND RUIN THEIR LIVES AND FAMILIES.

It is called criminalize and it does not work. The guy is an idiot. Alcohol is exponentially more addictive. We criminalized that and where did that get us?

 

[JimiSurvivor]

Why, let millions of people suffer because someone clown claims he is addicted to marijuana? I take Adderall. That means amphetamines. Says it right on the bottle. Same effect as meth. I could not hold down a job without it. With it I am just fine. People have serious medical issues that benefit from it and you want to victimize people over one clown?

You don't "ban" marijuana. YOU THROW PEOPLE IN PRISON AND RUIN THEIR LIVES AND FAMILIES.

It is called criminalize and it does not work. The guy is an idiot. Alcohol is exponentially more addictive. We criminalized that and where did that get us?

I have ADHD myself. Although it is now a recognized condition by the mental health field, I have encountered a great deal of skepticism about whether or not ADHD is an real neurological condition or whether it is a fictional construct invented by "Big Pharma" to sell potentially addictive drugs to adults and children. I have heard this idea repeated by many people. Having been a special education teacher as well as a licensed counselor I have observed the symptomology of ADHD both in myself as well as in many who come to me for help and advice.

I was diagnosed first by a comprehensive history of my attentional problems going back to childhood. This is necessary because ADHD is understood to be a developmental disorder. Perhaps a more important confirmation was provided when I took a Continuous Computerized tests that measured direct performance measuring on a series of tasks designed to how well I could maintain my attention in real time. Such tests - the CCPT or the TOVA require a person to maintain their attention on tasks for as long as 10-20 minutes. These tests provide statistical evidence by comparing the individual's performance with that of the general population.

Your post makes leads me to suspect that you have no rationale for advocating Marijuana as a THERAPEUTIC AGENT other than the fact YOU LIKE GETTING HIGH. If you had better reasons, I assume you would have mentioned them. Instead, you reason that, since the stimulant meds used to treat ADHD and marijuana can both be called "DRUGS" they both should be legal. This is a non-sequiter

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Hello everyone.

A recent report described a tragic case where a man became dependent on prescribed medicinal cannabis after treatment through a private provider, with his family later questioning the level of care and follow-up involved.

In the middle of the discussion, Curaleaf Clinic was referenced as part of the wider debate around how these services operate. The story raises difficult questions about mental health screening, remote consultations, and long-term monitoring when potent treatments are prescribed.

Where should responsibility sit if a patient’s condition worsens? Do private clinics need stricter safeguards, or clearer accountability, to prevent similar outcomes in the future?

When I was a kid with adults pushing pot/cannabis/marijuana on me, they told me it was not an addictive drug like XYZ.
Those people demonstrated that it clearly was addictive regardless of the one "scientific" so called report, probably done by a pot head who was biased to come up with results matching his proclivity. They went onto harder drugs and most chronic alcohol addictions followed by broken families.

From what we see, medical cannabis is Rxd to anyone who calls a phone number to the right MD. When I was a kid, the pot was mostly mild home-grown weed. Now it's been bred to the point far beyond that and much is laced with cheap and deadly fentanyl.

One more of many issues is that it is the gateway to endless lifetime of drugs. Any pharmacist or MD will tell you that they like the loooong term cash flow.
Over 90% of those suffering from the dreadful mental illness of schizophrenia started as cannabis smokers. The correlation shows that this substance might be directly causing the hallucinations. After all, it's classified as what?

I'm beating a dead horse because there are thousands of dead people that trusted MDs (Murder Drs) to help them in my state alone. The MDs exponentially surpass the illegal drug cartels in lethality.
Don't trust them.
There are compassionate people who have solutions to the challenges that we face, who won't push pot or fentanyl like the MDs.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

It is not an addictive substance any more than McDonalds.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

McDonald's

 

[ResidentAlien]

Hello everyone.

A recent report described a tragic case where a man became dependent on prescribed medicinal cannabis after treatment through a private provider, with his family later questioning the level of care and follow-up involved.

In the middle of the discussion, Curaleaf Clinic was referenced as part of the wider debate around how these services operate. The story raises difficult questions about mental health screening, remote consultations, and long-term monitoring when potent treatments are prescribed.

Where should responsibility sit if a patient’s condition worsens? Do private clinics need stricter safeguards, or clearer accountability, to prevent similar outcomes in the future?

It's hard to know exactly how to respond without knowing the whole story. Do you have a link to the report you're talking about?

 

[lomarespio]

When I was a kid with adults pushing pot/cannabis/marijuana on me, they told me it was not an addictive drug like XYZ.
Those people demonstrated that it clearly was addictive regardless of the one "scientific" so called report, probably done by a pot head who was biased to come up with results matching his proclivity. They went onto harder drugs and most chronic alcohol addictions followed by broken families.

From what we see, medical cannabis is Rxd to anyone who calls a phone number to the right MD. When I was a kid, the pot was mostly mild home-grown weed. Now it's been bred to the point far beyond that and much is laced with cheap and deadly fentanyl.

One more of many issues is that it is the gateway to endless lifetime of drugs. Any pharmacist or MD will tell you that they like the loooong term cash flow.
Over 90% of those suffering from the dreadful mental illness of schizophrenia started as cannabis smokers. The correlation shows that this substance might be directly causing the hallucinations. After all, it's classified as what?

I'm beating a dead horse because there are thousands of dead people that trusted MDs (Murder Drs) to help them in my state alone. You can also check the Bear’s Den Cannabis website for information on safer alternatives. The MDs exponentially surpass the illegal drug cartels in lethality.
Don't trust them.
There are compassionate people who have solutions to the challenges that we face, who won't push pot or fentanyl like the MDs.

thank you so much for your suggestion

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

thank you so much for your suggestion

I just want to be clear that I'm not agreeing with the laws outlawing God's plants. Look what the oil and textile companies did by bribing politicians. They not only made it illegal to use a medicinal plant, they outlawed the 99% of agricultural plants that have no psychoactive effects. Hemp was created for many purposes. It was the only competitor to the oil/Rockefeller dynasty.
Henry Ford's first car models were made of hemp. Engines can run on hemp oil as fuel. The cold pressed seed oil is healthy for the body. It makes superior clothing compared to cotton and has been a structural material replacement for trees.

The rarer psychoactive THC form/marijuana was used by George Washington as his toothache medicine and some have treated their seizures with it. All the same, it does have those potentially serious side effects. As a fat soluble substance, it takes months-years to detoxify from it all together .
For some people that want to kick their habits, I have heard testimonies that it can take longer than a lot of other addictive drugs. For the reasons I mentioned before, I don't recommend marijuana's legitimate medical use because of the lack of personal constraints people tend to have to use it only short term in low dose from a "safe source" if there is such a thing. As a kid, my exposure to those sources were not to be trusted. I've seen the same with many MDs too to be fair. Their love for money has caused more addiction than the illegal street pushers in my state.

There are usually other better options IMHO.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I have ADHD myself. Although it is now a recognized condition by the mental health field, I have encountered a great deal of skepticism about whether or not ADHD is an real neurological condition or whether it is a fictional construct invented by "Big Pharma" to sell potentially addictive drugs to adults and children. I have heard this idea repeated by many people. Having been a special education teacher as well as a licensed counselor I have observed the symptomology of ADHD both in myself as well as in many who come to me for help and advice.

I was diagnosed first by a comprehensive history of my attentional problems going back to childhood. This is necessary because ADHD is understood to be a developmental disorder. Perhaps a more important confirmation was provided when I took a Continuous Computerized tests that measured direct performance measuring on a series of tasks designed to how well I could maintain my attention in real time. Such tests - the CCPT or the TOVA require a person to maintain their attention on tasks for as long as 10-20 minutes. These tests provide statistical evidence by comparing the individual's performance with that of the general population.

Your post makes leads me to suspect that you have no rationale for advocating Marijuana as a THERAPEUTIC AGENT other than the fact YOU LIKE GETTING HIGH. If you had better reasons, I assume you would have mentioned them. Instead, you reason that, since the stimulant meds used to treat ADHD and marijuana can both be called "DRUGS" they both should be legal. This is a non-sequiter

This guy would likely agree.
I like to learn from other's perspectives as I filter them through the Bible.

 

[lomarespio]

I just want to be clear that I'm not agreeing with the laws outlawing God's plants. Look what the oil and textile companies did by bribing politicians. They not only made it illegal to use a medicinal plant, they outlawed the 99% of agricultural plants that have no psychoactive effects. Hemp was created for many purposes. It was the only competitor to the oil/Rockefeller dynasty.
Henry Ford's first car models were made of hemp. Engines can run on hemp oil as fuel. The cold pressed seed oil is healthy for the body. It makes superior clothing compared to cotton and has been a structural material replacement for trees.

The rarer psychoactive THC form/marijuana was used by George Washington as his toothache medicine and some have treated their seizures with it. All the same, it does have those potentially serious side effects. As a fat soluble substance, it takes months-years to detoxify from it all together .
For some people that want to kick their habits, I have heard testimonies that it can take longer than a lot of other addictive drugs. For the reasons I mentioned before, I don't recommend marijuana's legitimate medical use because of the lack of personal constraints people tend to have to use it only short term in low dose from a "safe source" if there is such a thing. Discussions about specific varieties like Jokerz Candy Marijuana Strain often come up in these conversations as well. As a kid, my exposure to those sources were not to be trusted. I've seen the same with many MDs too to be fair. Their love for money has caused more addiction than the illegal street pushers in my state.

There are usually other better options IMHO.

yeah. i know. you're not agree. i just said thanks for your response

 

[Michaelarc]

Hello everyone.

A recent report described a tragic case where a man became dependent on prescribed medicinal cannabis after treatment through a private provider, with his family later questioning the level of care and follow-up involved.

In the middle of the discussion, Curaleaf Clinic was referenced as part of the wider debate around how these services operate. The story raises difficult questions about mental health screening, remote consultations, and long-term monitoring when potent treatments are prescribed.

Where should responsibility sit if a patient’s condition worsens? Do private clinics need stricter safeguards, or clearer accountability, to prevent similar outcomes in the future?

Be careful. A doctor will prescribe a med for mood. Then it could affect anxiety so they prescribe you that. Then another for the effects of that one. Not all but some do this. A php professional told me this. If you don't believe me you can contact him for advice. Rick- precision recovery San Antonio TX. He can tell you the best approach.

 

[taylor545]

Hello everyone.

A recent report described a tragic case where a man became dependent on prescribed medicinal cannabis after treatment through a private provider, with his family later questioning the level of care and follow-up involved.

In the middle of the discussion, Curaleaf Clinic was referenced as part of the wider debate around how these services operate. The story raises difficult questions about mental health screening, remote consultations, and long-term monitoring when potent treatments are prescribed.

Where should responsibility sit if a patient’s condition worsens? Do private clinics need stricter safeguards, or clearer accountability, to prevent similar outcomes in the future?

Clinics can’t just hand this stuff out and call it treatment, screening has to be tighter. High THC products are linked to psychosis risk, especially with frequent use, that’s not new info.

I went through a private clinic, Releaf, onboarding was quick, online consult, they focused on my symptoms and got me started fast. I didn’t fully expect how strong some options can hit mentally though. I got something way stronger than expected and it threw me off for a while. Later I started digging into strain types and ran into sativa in their glossary, and yeah some of those are way more stimulating mentally. That kind of thing should be flagged more clearly before prescribing.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

I am in the mental health field and once took a course concerning the "medicinal uses of Cannibus" From what I learned, cannabis is almost always used to treat symptoms most often the symptoms which arise as a secondary effect of the pharmaceutical treatment of those disorders. For instance, Cannibus is used to reduce:

(1. muscle spasms in people with multiple sclerosis.
(There's less evidence it helps muscle spasms in people with spinal cord injuries).
(2. loss of appetite caused by HIV drugs
(3. vomiting in people undergoing cancer chemotherapy.
(drugs based on two lab-made forms of THC are already FDA-approved for this purpose).
(4. pain in people with conditions such as nerve damage, cancer, multiple sclerosis, and rheumatoid arthritis.

For people with certain types of mental illness, using THC prove to be be catastrophic since it can actually CAUSE psychosis and paranoia. I have known many people who have experienced this although people often claim with perfect confidence that it has never happened to them personally or that they know many people who were never affected like that. However, just because something has not yet happened does not mean that it never will. This is what we call magical thinking.

 

[legion]

When I was a kid with adults pushing pot/cannabis/marijuana on me, they told me it was not an addictive drug like XYZ.
Those people demonstrated that it clearly was addictive regardless of the one "scientific" so called report, probably done by a pot head who was biased to come up with results matching his proclivity. They went onto harder drugs and most chronic alcohol addictions followed by broken families.

From what we see, medical cannabis is Rxd to anyone who calls a phone number to the right MD. When I was a kid, the pot was mostly mild home-grown weed. Now it's been bred to the point far beyond that and much is laced with cheap and deadly fentanyl.

One more of many issues is that it is the gateway to endless lifetime of drugs. Any pharmacist or MD will tell you that they like the loooong term cash flow.
Over 90% of those suffering from the dreadful mental illness of schizophrenia started as cannabis smokers. The correlation shows that this substance might be directly causing the hallucinations. After all, it's classified as what?

I'm beating a dead horse because there are thousands of dead people that trusted MDs (Murder Drs) to help them in my state alone. The MDs exponentially surpass the illegal drug cartels in lethality.
Don't trust them.
There are compassionate people who have solutions to the challenges that we face, who won't push pot or fentanyl like the MDs.

It has no physically addictive components, marijuana is only psychologically. addictive. There is a big difference.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

Why, let millions of people suffer because someone clown claims he is addicted to marijuana? I take Adderall. That means amphetamines. Says it right on the bottle. Same effect as meth. I could not hold down a job without it. With it I am just fine. People have serious medical issues that benefit from it and you want to victimize people over one clown?

You don't "ban" marijuana. YOU THROW PEOPLE IN PRISON AND RUIN THEIR LIVES AND FAMILIES.

It is called criminalize and it does not work. The guy is an idiot. Alcohol is exponentially more addictive. We criminalized that and where did that get us?

Society tried banning Alcohol but it had too long been a part of Western Culture. Earlier in history, addiction to alcohol was, if anything, more prevalent which is why ships carried loads of alcohol wherever they went. BTW I take Concerta and have found it to be of great help