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[ZNP]

Lord Jesus all judgment has been given to You. You have been made head over all things to the church and so we bring our petitions to You. According to your word those who offend these little ones, it would be better for them if a millstone were tied around their necks and they were tossed into the sea. We have three million pages of documents, we have photographs, flight logs, witness testimony and video evidence. And yet Lord, they have dragged their feet for years in releasing the evidence they have. They have continually tried to change the subject, and despite having all of this evidence of horrific crimes committed against people and children the US has not prosecuted and convicted any of them. So Lord we give this to You as the highest authority. May your will be done, not ours. Your wisdom is higher than ours and can lead to salvation, so we pray you would exercise your dominion in this in exposing the CIA, Mossad, and any other intelligence agencies. These things we ask in the mighty name of Jesus Christ, standing on the blood of His sacrifice. Amen.

 

[Citizen]

Pretty sure the OP didn't pray for the mass death and destruction of people who had nothing to do with Epstein.

I have repeatedly recapped the following from the OP, which is that he is condemning an entire nation and praying for the deaths of millions of innocent people he doesn't know and who have nothing to do with epstein. He has never clarified that he meant only the guilty, never denounced praying for millions of innocents to die, and even doubled down in post #3. Those are facts, not speculation.

It's all here in black and white, and I take him at his word, as should everyone.

 

[PennEd]

Psalm 55
Give ear to my prayer, O God; and hide not thyself from my supplication.
2 Attend unto me, and hear me: I mourn in my complaint, and make a noise;
3 Because of the voice of the enemy, because of the oppression of the wicked: for they cast iniquity upon me, and in wrath they hate me.
4 My heart is sore pained within me: and the terrors of death are fallen upon me.
5 Fearfulness and trembling are come upon me, and horror hath overwhelmed me.
6 And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.
7 Lo, then would I wander far off, and remain in the wilderness. Selah.
8 I would hasten my escape from the windy storm and tempest.
9 Destroy, O Lord, and divide their tongues: for I have seen violence and strife in the city.
10 Day and night they go about it upon the walls thereof: mischief also and sorrow are in the midst of it.
11 Wickedness is in the midst thereof: deceit and guile depart not from her streets.
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company.
15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the Lord shall save me.
17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
18 He hath delivered my soul in peace from the battle that was against me: for there were many with me.
19 God shall hear, and afflict them, even he that abideth of old. Selah. Because they have no changes, therefore they fear not God.
20 He hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath broken his covenant.
21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
22 Cast thy burden upon the Lord, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.

Yep.

Talks about the evil PEOPLE, not the entire country.

See the difference?

 

[Charlesiii]

Yep.

Talks about the evil PEOPLE, not the entire country.

See the difference?

If the OP's intent was the entire country, I probably agree with you. But that wasn't how I read his post. It certainly wouldn't be something a Christian would condone - condemning the innocent with the guilty. Perhaps we can ask the OP before condemning him?

This said, recall also that the entire Israelite nation was subject to judgement by Babylon for the sins of the majority. (But yeah, I don't think any prophet actually prayed for God to do that!)

 

[Charlesiii]

I must say as a Christian and an American. I find this most troubling. If we only pray and do not use the laws of the land to bring Justice as we have in WWII for the Jews and for many others. I am asking to bring more Judgement to this nation. I am praying that our Lord will send flooding, earthquakes, and fires to America. this is evil Baal and moloch worship and there has not been one arrest of those on this long list. I believe we as Christian in America must act with Righteous Indignation and contact those who are leaders and demand Justice for these children and young women. I am praying that the Lord will humble those who mock and scoff the Living GOD. The millstone around the neck needs to be applied. The laws of the land must be obeyed.

Hey CS1. To be clear, are you asking for judgement on the entire country, or just the evil doers? As God protects the innocent (refer to His conversation with Abraham on Sodom, for example), I'm presuming the latter, but there are some who are holding your statement to the letter of the law, so to speak.

 

[PennEd]

Psalm 55
Give ear to my prayer, O God; and hide not thyself from my supplication.
2 Attend unto me, and hear me: I mourn in my complaint, and make a noise;
3 Because of the voice of the enemy, because of the oppression of the wicked: for they cast iniquity upon me, and in wrath they hate me.
4 My heart is sore pained within me: and the terrors of death are fallen upon me.
5 Fearfulness and trembling are come upon me, and horror hath overwhelmed me.
6 And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.
7 Lo, then would I wander far off, and remain in the wilderness. Selah.
8 I would hasten my escape from the windy storm and tempest.
9 Destroy, O Lord, and divide their tongues: for I have seen violence and strife in the city.
10 Day and night they go about it upon the walls thereof: mischief also and sorrow are in the midst of it.
11 Wickedness is in the midst thereof: deceit and guile depart not from her streets.
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company.
15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the Lord shall save me.
17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
18 He hath delivered my soul in peace from the battle that was against me: for there were many with me.
19 God shall hear, and afflict them, even he that abideth of old. Selah. Because they have no changes, therefore they fear not God.
20 He hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath broken his covenant.
21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
22 Cast thy burden upon the Lord, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.

He said the following prayer, word for word:

“I am asking to bring more Judgement to this nation. I am praying that our Lord will send flooding, earthquakes, and fires to America. this is evil”

So an earthquake, fires, and floods are only going to affect the wicked?

Here’s what Jesus said about those that were deemed wicked:

Luke 9:54-56
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54And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”

But He turned and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

@CS1 ,

How are mass deaths of innocent people going to bring justice upon the creepy Satanists billionaires?

 

[Charlesiii]

@CS1 ,

How are mass deaths of innocent people going to bring justice upon the creepy Satanists billionaires?

He said the following prayer, word for word:

“I am asking to bring more Judgement to this nation. I am praying that our Lord will send flooding, earthquakes, and fires to America. this is evil”

So an earthquake, fires, and floods are only going to affect the wicked?

Here’s what Jesus said about those that were deemed wicked:

Luke 9:54-56​

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54And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”

But He turned and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.

James and John were calling for fire to consume people. Having a land ravaged by flood and fire doesn't necessarily damage the people. It can be a focus on damaging their object of worship - money. Look a Pam Bondi's response to why the Epstein pedophiles weren't being prosecuted - she didn't care about all the children being raped, she basically pointed to how well the stock market was doing. Its a disgusting state of affairs, and if a fire or flood can destroy some false gods to get people to care about what matters, why would you be against that?

 

[ZNP]

James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Elijah was hated and despised for this prayer. The entire nation was praying for rain and he was praying that it might not rain. The king wanted him dead. But this is what it took to remove Ahab and Jezebel from ruling and reigning, and this is what brought everyone to the mountain where Elijah called down fire and then executed the prophets of Baal.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

James and John were calling for fire to consume people. Having a land ravaged by flood and fire doesn't necessarily damage the people. It can be a focus on damaging their object of worship - money. Look a Pam Bondi's response to why the Epstein pedophiles weren't being prosecuted - she didn't care about all the children being raped, she basically pointed to how well the stock market was doing. Its a disgusting state of affairs, and if a fire or flood can destroy some false gods to get people to care about what matters, why would you be against that?

Sounds like a foolish interpretation of current events and judgement.
Last year thousands of families lost their entire properties and loved ones to floods.

There's much money the evil billionaires make from tragedies like those. Do you seriously think that the billionaires with rooms of gold bricks will starve and repent?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Elijah was hated and despised for this prayer. The entire nation was praying for rain and he was praying that it might not rain. The king wanted him dead. But this is what it took to remove Ahab and Jezebel from ruling and reigning, and this is what brought everyone to the mountain where Elijah called down fire and then executed the prophets of Baal.

Just about all of the nation was worshipping the Devil/Baal.

25But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian. 28And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath...."

Israel, was steeped in national idolatry, rejectors of the LORD , so God sent the prophets Elijah and Elisha to despised gentiles to show His glorious miracles and answer prayers.

If you wish to ask the Lord to flood your property or any other judgement because of the Epstein crimes, that is your choice.
As for me, I suffer enough without asking for judgement of self and other victims of injustices to pay for the crimes of evil billionaires.

 

[ZNP]

Just about all of the nation was worshipping the Devil/Baal.

25But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian. 28And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath...."

Israel, was steeped in national idolatry, rejectors of the LORD , so God sent the prophets Elijah and Elisha to despised gentiles to show His glorious miracles and answer prayers.

If you wish to ask the Lord to flood your property or any other judgement because of the Epstein crimes, that is your choice.
As for me, I suffer enough without asking for judgement of self and other victims of injustices to pay for the crimes of evil billionaires.

I think it is a common mistake among immature Christians to call for a particular judgment. That is something only the judge can do.

However, we can pray according to God's will and I believe that is what Elijah was doing.

• Deuteronomy 11:16-17 (NIV): "...be careful that you are not enticed to turn aside to worship and bow down to other gods, or the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you. He will shut the heavens so that there will be no rain, nor will the land yield its produce...".
• Deuteronomy 28:22-24 (NIV): Describes the Lord striking the people with "scorching heat and drought" and turning the rain of the land into "dust and powder" due to disobedience.
• 1 Kings 17 (Context): This warning is famously fulfilled when Elijah declares a drought during King Ahab's reign after Israel turned to idolatry.

Rather than condemn someone's post I thought it would be better to give a positive Biblical example of how to pray.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think it is a common mistake among immature Christians to call for a particular judgment. That is something only the judge can do.

However, we can pray according to God's will and I believe that is what Elijah was doing.

• Deuteronomy 11:16-17 (NIV): "...be careful that you are not enticed to turn aside to worship and bow down to other gods, or the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you. He will shut the heavens so that there will be no rain, nor will the land yield its produce...".
• Deuteronomy 28:22-24 (NIV): Describes the Lord striking the people with "scorching heat and drought" and turning the rain of the land into "dust and powder" due to disobedience.
• 1 Kings 17 (Context): This warning is famously fulfilled when Elijah declares a drought during King Ahab's reign after Israel turned to idolatry.

Rather than condemn someone's post I thought it would be better to give a positive Biblical example of how to pray.

I believe in imprecatory prayers.

Psalms 10:2​

1Why standest thou afar off, O LORD? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble? 2The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

I've prayed this before.
14Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless. 15Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.

A bad cop, my brother, harmed my Mom, so I took him to THE Judge, The Lord, The King of kings.

Shortly thereafter he walked into a cop shop, Dunkin donuts, where I was having coffee.
I had prayed for him recently.
The first thing he said after Hi, was to tell me what strange two things happened to him.
He suffered two serious injuries that I specifically talked to my Father about. They weren't broken arms though.
He was worthy of serious punishment, but I wasn't going to do it. In fact I always loved my brother in spite of his lifelong attempts to divide the family and do harmful things while maintaining his air of self righteousness.
Then he later kept telling everyone that he felt like he was Demon possessed when he had a medical procedure done.
I think he was.

 

[ZNP]

I believe in imprecatory prayers.

Psalms 10:2​

1Why standest thou afar off, O LORD? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble? 2The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

I've prayed this before.
14Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless. 15Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.

A bad cop, my brother, harmed my Mom, so I took him to THE Judge, The Lord, The King of kings.

Shortly thereafter he walked into a cop shop, Dunkin donuts, where I was having coffee.
I had prayed for him recently.
The first thing he said after Hi, was to tell me what strange two things happened to him.
He suffered two serious injuries that I specifically talked to my Father about. They weren't broken arms though.
He was worthy of serious punishment, but I wasn't going to do it. In fact I always loved my brother in spite of his lifelong attempts to divide the family and do harmful things while maintaining his air of self righteousness.
Then he later kept telling everyone that he felt like he was Demon possessed when he had a medical procedure done.
I think he was.

I believe vengeance belongs to God. I am more than happy to leave that up to Him as He is the expert when it comes to that.

 

[Citizen]

Hey CS1. To be clear, are you asking for judgement on the entire country, or just the evil doers? As God protects the innocent (refer to His conversation with Abraham on Sodom, for example), I'm presuming the latter, but there are some who are holding your statement to the letter of the law, so to speak.

We can all read for ourselves. These are his words -

"I am asking to bring more Judgement to this nation. I am praying that our Lord will send flooding, earthquakes, and fires to America."

"I am praying that GOD Judge this nation as He has been yes amen . So, BE it."

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I believe vengeance belongs to God. I am more than happy to leave that up to Him as He is the expert when it comes to that.

I never carried out vengeance.
My Father did.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I believe vengeance belongs to God. I am more than happy to leave that up to Him as He is the expert when it comes to that.

I think we agreed then.

 

[CS1]

Hey CS1. To be clear, are you asking for judgement on the entire country, or just the evil doers? As God protects the innocent (refer to His conversation with Abraham on Sodom, for example), I'm presuming the latter, but there are some who are holding your statement to the letter of the law, so to speak.

I am saying Judgement in America is and has been going on from two years now. As I see in CA and Live there Yet God has protected me n m family and those I see in the body of Christ.

 

[CS1]

@CS1 ,

How are mass deaths of innocent people going to bring justice upon the creepy Satanists billionaires?

how did mass death bring Justice to Sodom and Gomorrah? God is Just in whatever he Does. God is not fair. HE is Just.

 

[ZNP]

how did mass death bring Justice to Sodom and Gomorrah? God is Just in whatever he Does. God is not fair. HE is Just.

A cry had gone up from those suffering at the hands of abusive ones in Sodom. That is why God sent the angels to investigate. If you read what happened when the mob came to Lot's house it is proof that the city was unsafe to live in and was in complete violation of the laws that God gave to Noah for human government.

All authority comes from God, if you are not going to follow His rules He has the right to cancel your lease on life.