Is Jesus Christ a God ?

[R3V07UTI0N]

Or, could it be that Jesus *shares* in the nature of God, yet is not the Father still?

In one way, yes, He is the Father. In another way, He is not.

Who said in the cloud "this is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased?"

Was Jesus saying He was pleased with Himself?



Grace and Love

The Spirit of God (The Father) said in the cloud "this is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."
about the Human form of God which is Jesus Christ. "...the Father of spirits, and live." (Hebrews 12:9) Father of spirits and flesh. "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?..." (Malachi 2:10)


"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Ephesians 4:4-6)

Does that answer your question? Let me put it in my words The Father is only Spirit alone "But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:"(2 Timothy 1:10). There is only one Spirit of God "But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will." (1 Corinthians 12:11). That is why from the cloud the Spirit of God talked about His flesh Son, Jesus Christ.

I hope this helps God bless

 

[Naphal]

The Father is only Spirit alone

Oh? Does a spirit have hands?

 

[CanadaNZ]

Friend, John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning." Before time began, the Word was with God. And the Word was God. The Word is the Lord Jesus Christ. He was with God the Father in the beginning. Also, "For there are three being witness in the heaven: the Father, the Logos (Word), and the Holy Spirit; and these Three are One." 1 John 5:7 ONT.
God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19).
God is One God in Three Persons.
God is God the Father.
God is God the Son, Jesus Christ.
God is God the Holy Spirit.
Yet these are not three gods, but One God.
In Three Persons.
Muslims don't believe this. But they say Muhammad is closer to God than any other Prophet.
Christians say the Prophet we are to follow is God the Son, Jesus Christ.
In USA Scott

Just had to post to say I agree with you, as we don't always see eye to eye, it is nice to see we agree on something so important . God is one but three, look at the first name for God, Elohim (Genesis 1:1) this is a word meaning God singular, but has a plural suffix in the hebrew, pointing to the trinity and Jesus is confirmed part of that trinity in John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning."

 

[GaryMac]

No it doesn't, Christ is Jesus not an anointing.

Christ is a man, the man Jesus Christ (God in flesh)

Christ means to be anointed of God, The anointed one, Christ in you, You anointed of God. Jesus was Christ because he was anointed of God, the anointed one. Look up a few difinitions.

CHRIST IN YOU IS THE HOPE OF GLORY!

 

[GaryMac]

Gary's hope of glory?? or God's hope of glory? ....be careful now..

Christ in you is the hope of glory, Same one who was in Christ Jesus.

 

[GaryMac]

No, it is all for God's glory.

God is glorified through us, not the other way around.

Scripture for that please?

im sure you do.

CHrist in you, Gods Spirit in you, really is the hope of glory. You dont seem to understand that concept.

 

[GaryMac]

Pretty much

While Scripture can back up Christ being God in being, Scripture cannot back up Him being *not* God in being.

Christ is God, and Christ is Gods anointing in the man. Christ in me. Same one who was in Jesus, same Spirit same mind.

 

[zackabba]

The Spirit of God (The Father) said in the cloud "this is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."
about the Human form of God which is Jesus Christ. "...the Father of spirits, and live." (Hebrews 12:9) Father of spirits and flesh. "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?..." (Malachi 2:10)


"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Ephesians 4:4-6)

Does that answer your question? Let me put it in my words The Father is only Spirit alone "But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:"(2 Timothy 1:10). There is only one Spirit of God "But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will." (1 Corinthians 12:11). That is why from the cloud the Spirit of God talked about His flesh Son, Jesus Christ.

I hope this helps God bless

Thank you, but actually it just makes it more confusing.

When practically every letter of Paul's begins with "...God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ..." it suggests there is more than 1 person.

 

[zackabba]

Christ is God, and Christ is Gods anointing in the man. Christ in me. Same one who was in Jesus, same Spirit same mind.

Well now we agree! Yes, Christ indeed has the nature of God. He is God.

One thing - yes, "Christ" or "Messiah" means "anointed one."

But the Messiah was to be more than just an anointed one - He was to be called the Mighty God, Everlasting God, Wonderful Counselor, Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)

And, as Hebrews 1 says, all things are held up by the word of His power, and He created all things.

 

[ada]

Its not whether Jesus was God, but that God himself was Jesus in the flesh!
God himself in the flesh was Jesus Christ! ONE!!
He did it,but no one else was able to do it..
Only Jesus Christ who is One with the Father and the Holy Spirit!

 

[GaryMac]

Its not whether Jesus was God, but that God himself was Jesus in the flesh!
God himself in the flesh was Jesus Christ! ONE!!
He did it,but no one else was able to do it..
Only Jesus Christ who is One with the Father and the Holy Spirit!

God was n Jesus flesh, He came to Jesus in Matt 3:16 and opend heaven to the man. But all who has recieved in them what Jesus did is one with the FAther.

 

[AnandaHya]

JESUS was born of the VIRGIN MARY! the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

He was BEGOTTEN of GOD BEFORE His baptism by John. John even said the JESUS needed to baptize HIM with HIS Holy Spirit not the other way around.

Matthew 3

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?”
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[c] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Jesus is the living Manna that came FROM Heaven. He was NOT a mere man that needed Heaven opened to Him by baptism of water.

JESUS is MORE than just a MAN and was NOT formed by the carnal union of JOSEPH and MARY.

Luke 1
30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 2

25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the Consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 So he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when the parents brought in the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law, 28 he took Him up in his arms and blessed God and said:
29 “ Lord, now You are letting Your servant depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30 For my eyes have seen Your salvation
31 Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples,
32 A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”

JESUS is THE CHRIST not "a christ"

 

[cronjecj]

JESUS was born of the VIRGIN MARY! the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

He was BEGOTTEN of GOD BEFORE His baptism by John. John even said the JESUS needed to baptize HIM with HIS Holy Spirit not the other way around.

Matthew 3

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?”
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[c] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Jesus is the living Manna that came FROM Heaven. He was NOT a mere man that needed Heaven opened to Him by baptism of water.

JESUS is MORE than just a MAN and was NOT formed by the carnal union of JOSEPH and MARY.
Luke 1
30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 2

25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the Consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 So he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when the parents brought in the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law, 28 he took Him up in his arms and blessed God and said:
29 “ Lord, now You are letting Your servant depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30 For my eyes have seen Your salvation
31 Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples,
32 A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”

JESUS is THE CHRIST not "a christ"

Yep but he seems to be stuck on Matthew 3:16. So it really ain't about the "Christ in you" that we are worried about but more about his misleading teachings on "Jesus was God incarnate in Matthew 3:16" but true followers know that Jesus has always been God as a person from the very beginning then he became flesh and even as a baby Jesus was worshiped.

 

[R3V07UTI0N]

Well now we agree! Yes, Christ indeed has the nature of God. He is God.

One thing - yes, "Christ" or "Messiah" means "anointed one."

But the Messiah was to be more than just an anointed one - He was to be called the Mighty God, Everlasting God, Wonderful Counselor, Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)

And, as Hebrews 1 says, all things are held up by the word of His power, and He created all things.

Why do you change the original everlasting Father? To God....? Do you deny the Father? If you deny the Father the same will be done to you by the Father.

 

[R3V07UTI0N]

Oh? Does a spirit have hands?

Are you putting a limit to my God?
Do you mock my God?

Why can your pagan characters like casper have hand even if they are ghost....

 

[R3V07UTI0N]

Thank you, but actually it just makes it more confusing.

When practically every letter of Paul's begins with "...God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ..." it suggests there is more than 1 person.

So do you have 2 gods or 3?
Because i have one true God.

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."
-Isaiah 44:6

 

[GaryMac]

Is Jesus Christ God?

Well, let's let Jesus answer this question for himself!

"...I am." (John 8:58)



Now wait, hold on, let's go back to that verse.
The whole verse is:

"Truly Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."

Wow! Wait, so He existed before Abraham was born?!?


Well, if we're going to let Him speak for Himself, then yes, He did.

"Now come on, let us reason this out. Jesus didn't *really* mean He existed then, wasn't really alive then. He was *alive* in the mind of God, however! It's so clear that the Word of God wasn't actually a person before being manifest in the flesh, but...an idea! Why won't you see this?"

Well, because I let God speak for Himself.




Let's take another look at this, shall we?


So, did any of the other New Testament writers have anything to say about this matter? Why, of course!

For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny [I]our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.[/i]
Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. (Jude 4, 5)

For I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ. Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play." We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. (1 Corinthians 10:1-11)

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:5-11)

(It is interesting to note that this is in reference to Isaiah 45:23, which says:

I have sworn by Myself,
The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness
And will not turn back,
That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.)




I could put even more verses down here (look at the 1st chapter of Hebrews for another example), but I believe the Scriptures are well-sufficient to show that Jesus Christ is, indeed, God in the flesh. He pitched His tent among us (John 1:1-18), and we have seen His glory with the eyes of our heart, glory as of the only Son from the Father. Glory as of the only God.




Grace and Love

I am that I am as well.Christ in me assures who I AM.

 

[Jacob12]

So do you have 2 gods or 3?
Because i have one true God.

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."
-Isaiah 44:6

According to the bible their are two in the Godhead John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made."
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"
Hebrews 1:2 "hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds."
The verse you quoted in Isaiah is speaking of there being no other God as far as Idols or graven images if you read two more verses you'll see that Isaiah 44:8-9 "Fear ye not neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea there is no God; I know not any. They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know, that they may be ashamed.
Futhermore it is written in John 1:18" No man hath seen God (the Father) at anytime; the only begotten Son, which is in the bossom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Now you might say that 74 people saw the "God of Israel" in Exodus 24:9-11 "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand, also they saw God, and did eat and drink."
But you would need to further investigate to find out who was this God they saw. 1 Corithians 10:1-4 "Moreover, brethen, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ"

 

[R3V07UTI0N]

According to the bible their are two in the Godhead John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made."
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"
Hebrews 1:2 "hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds."
The verse you quoted in Isaiah is speaking of there being no other God as far as Idols or graven images if you read two more verses you'll see that Isaiah 44:8-9 "Fear ye not neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea there is no God; I know not any. They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know, that they may be ashamed.
Futhermore it is written in John 1:18" No man hath seen God (the Father) at anytime; the only begotten Son, which is in the bossom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Now you might say that 74 people saw the "God of Israel" in Exodus 24:9-11 "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand, also they saw God, and did eat and drink."
But you would need to further investigate to find out who was this God they saw. 1 Corithians 10:1-4 "Moreover, brethen, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ"

In John 10:30 Jesus said, “ I and my Father are two ” ? I beg your pardon! That is not right! He said, “ I and my Father are one. ”. Read this for more verses

 

[zackabba]

Why do you change the original everlasting Father? To God....? Do you deny the Father? If you deny the Father the same will be done to you by the Father.

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to put Father.