By releasing them from captivity. That was the extent of it.
Revolution in Iran
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By releasing them from captivity. That was the extent of it.
Modern Israel would cease to exist if it weren't for US protection.
Because of direct intentional PROVIDENTIAL intercession by the king himself.
Lol well Esther and the timing of Purim was of course another example, but to be frank I thought it was too cliche and too easy, plus ZNP got to that angle days ago lol. With the recent talk about the nature of prophecy I figure Isaiah was more fitting, though it's easy to look at it all as one book, mindful there is like a roughly two century gap between Isaiah's lifetime and Cyrus even being born. This is a case of an extreme accurate and non-vague prophecy.
On top of this, then to the topical nature, Cyrus the Great founded the first Persian dynasty really the Achaemenids, and Cyrus legacy is even woven into the news in today's time such as Reza Pahlavi's Cyrus Accords idea for a transitional framework for Iran. Though yes indeed, the central Purim story and the fate of Haman hanging on his own gallows is pretty hard example to miss.
Even if he didn't send troops, his word was certainly enough to cause some of Israel's adversaries to back off.
In any case in IS7 King Ahaz (Judah) is fearful of the Aram-Ephraim teaming up on him; but God said not to sweat it- and it was Sargon (assyria) that destroyed the enemies of God's people, not Judah's armies; God can certainly protect his people by whatever means he sees fit.
That certainly doesn't mean that I think the US needs to be playing this role all the time OR that the current nation-state is somehow beyond rebuke.
Yeah he authorized the Jews to protect themselves. His armies didn't participate
But he's not going to go against his word, and his revealed word states that he never used foreign powers to protect Israel, and in fact was adamantly opposed to such because it stole his glory.
The fact is that Cyrus did not protect Israel even when they were being attacked by their enemies while they were rebuilding the temple.
Cyrus, a Persian king, conquered Babylon and allowed the Jews to return and rebuild the Temple.
The Persian military defeated Babylon, enabling Israel’s restoration.
Cyrus is explicitly called God’s “anointed” (Messiah) in Isaiah 45:1, showing God “using” a Gentile king for Israel’s benefit.
This providence explicitly framed as God’s plan to restore His people.
Is Tucker some kind of authority around here?
I never waste my valuable time listening to that quack.
Who is gaining weight on this operation? The West? The East? Russia?
No oil from the gulf, who’s benefiting from that?
Russia!
That good or bad?
No oil from the gulf, who’s benefiting from that?
Russia!
That good or bad?
Nonsense. In fact the decree of Cyrus is that which paved the way for the latter kings to finish the job.
1. Temple Rebuilding (Ezra 6)
King: Cyrus the Great initially authorized the rebuilding of the Temple after conquering Babylon (Ezra 1:1–4).
Protection: Later, Darius I confirmed Cyrus’s decree and provided support when enemies tried to stop the project (Ezra 6:1–12).
Outcome: The Temple was completed under God’s providence with Persian military authority preventing sabotage.
2. City Walls and Jerusalem (Nehemiah 2–6)
King: Artaxerxes I of Persia (Nehemiah 2:1–8)
Role: Granted Nehemiah permission to rebuild Jerusalem’s walls.
Provided letters to local governors to allow safe passage and protection of supplies.
Essentially ensured that local enemies could not easily interfere.
Providence: God used Artaxerxes as a Gentile protector of the city, enabling the completion of the walls despite opposition from neighboring peoples (Sanballat, Tobiah, and others).
Well, the Kingdom of Judah was "israel" at the time. The rest of Israel was backslidden and an enemy- and Assyria was how he stopped their enemies from destroying Judah. I don't think that stole his glory.
It's true that the alliance with Egypt was bad, because they put their trust in Egypt instead of God; and I DO think that is what the current nation-state is doing right now... that's why I said this isn't our business forever to protect them. I have no interest in protecting an Israel that allows idolatry to prevail in their land- except for the Christians there; which we should certainly protect in some way, even if it means evacuating them.
At the same time; I have no interest in the survival of a regime that will kill people for converting to Christianity from Islam; and by doctrine, do other crazy jihadi things. Islam is useful to the extent that it serves as a foil to the hedonistic heathen west; but, beyond that, it is pretty much malignant, especially when it captures civil authority, as in the case with the IRGC. It very well might just be their time to fall. I cannot say with certainty.
No one's doubting it was God's providence, but that providence didn't extend to Persia protecting them; they simply set them free.
They were getting help from Iran for their shenanigans in Ukraine. They probably aren't now. The only "benefit" they get is that billions of American dollars are being used to blow up their friends instead of them.
But nothing was done for them after they were restored to the land, except for an edict or two and funneling some tax money to them to help in rebuilding the temple.
I don't think Tucker has been a Christian for long, if he even is one, but he has more spiritual discernment that Christians who have forsaken Christ to follow the pharisees
Nonsense. The returning Israelites were provided with EVERYTHING they needed.....and more.
Gold silver bronze vessels and implements, animals (for sacrifices) grain wine oil and military protection and tons of other support.
Here’s a detailed table summarizing everything the Persian kings provided to the returning Israelites during Ezra and Nehemiah’s missions, based on the biblical records:
| Category | Specifics | Biblical Reference |
|---|---|---|
| Precious metals & temple vessels | Gold, silver, bronze, and vessels formerly belonging to Solomon’s Temple | Ezra 1:4-7; 6:3-5 |
| Animals for sacrifices | Bulls, rams, lambs, male goats for sin, burnt, and thanksgiving offerings | Ezra 6:17; Nehemiah 10:33 |
| Food supplies | Grain, wine, oil for priests, Levites, and offerings | Ezra 6:9-10; Nehemiah 13:5 |
| Timber & construction materials | Timber from Lebanon for the Temple, gates, and walls | Ezra 3:7 |
| Military protection | Official letters granting safe passage and security from local enemies | Ezra 7:21-23; Nehemiah 2:7-9 |
| Tax & labor exemptions | Exemption from taxes, tribute, and forced labor for the Temple and its personnel | Ezra 7:24; Nehemiah 5:13 |
| Administrative/judicial authority | Ezra authorized as priest and scribe to interpret the Law, appoint magistrates, and judge the people | Ezra 7:25-26 |
| Financial support for officials & workers | Money, silver, and goods for local governors, priests, and Levites | Ezra 6:8-10 |
| Letters of authorization | Documents ordering local rulers to help the exiles, restore property, and not interfere | Ezra 7:12-20; Nehemiah 2:7-9 |
| Personal gifts for encouragement | Gifts to individuals such as Ezra, including silver, gold, and provisions for travel | Ezra 7:15-17 |
Summary: The kings didn’t just give money or animals—they created a full support system: legal authority, military protection, tax exemptions, building materials, administrative power, and daily provisions. This shows how seriously the Persian empire backed the return and restoration.