Are You Rapture Ready?

[Psalm1]

Psst, palm Sunday was the fulfillment of LAMB SELECTION DAY, four days before passover, on which Lord Jesus was crucified. Whatever I think of the wording, it's for the Feast of Firstfruits, first Sunday after passover. That's apparently way too deep for you.

Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying: ‘On the tenth of this month every man shall take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household. And if the household is too small for the lamb, let him and his neighbor next to his house take it according to the number of the persons; according to each man’s need you shall make your count for the lamb. Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it. Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire—its head with its legs and its entrails. You shall let none of it remain until morning, and what remains of it until morning you shall burn with fire. And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord’s Passover. (Ex. 12:3-11)

Yawn.
The entire damage control you are doing will not, and can not erase 1 cor 15.

You really need Jesus to not be firstfruits huh?

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I am not the one saying the bible is wrong about all taking the mark, and those refusing getting martyred.
You are saying the rapture is postrib.
And therefore assuming some huge number are hiding in caves...and not factoring in there are no believers alive postrib....if the bible can be trusted....as you seem to question..

I don't shy away from pretrib rapture verses.

But if the bible is true, and you insist on "going through the trib" you will have to obey and take the mark.

IOW, Postribbers are actually questioning their own faith, by going against clear scripture. ( prophesying they will go through the gt)
Actually hoping for something beyond their understanding.

You're going to go through the GT. I want you to think seriously about what you'll do.

The mark will be instituted. If you don't take it, you won't be able to buy and sell without it. Plus you will be beheaded for that refusal.

If you take it, it will be seen as trusting the antichrist instead of God, denying Him.

I know none of you pre-tribbers want to think about that, but that is what's going to happen, and you must decide who you really trust - God or the antichrist.


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[Psalm1]

The "gathering" is most definitely post trib, it'll only happen when the Lord returns IN LIKE MANNER. You're in denial. If it were pre-trib or mid-trib, then Jesus would be lying.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matt. 24:29-31)

And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem ... Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" ... "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:4-9)

Huh?

You just posted a verse in Matt 24 where angels gather, ( NOT JESUS) and that gathering is in heaven.

What are you thinking?

The rapture is Jesus Gathering His bride.
Rev 14:14 is Jesus himself gathering.

You quoted 2 seperate events.
They can not possibly be the same thing.

Now we see where firstfruits must be properly assigned.

Now we can see that the 144,000 are indeed a firstfruits gathering OF JEWS PRECEEDING A JEWISH HARVEST.

FIRSTFRUITS JEWS.

 

[Psalm1]

The "gathering" is most definitely post trib, it'll only happen when the Lord returns IN LIKE MANNER. You're in denial. If it were pre-trib or mid-trib, then Jesus would be lying.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matt. 24:29-31)

And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem ... Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" ... "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:4-9)

Examine the setting of "like manner" in Acts 1 ascension and Jesus 2nd Coming in Rev 19.

There is ZERO like manner.

However, like manner fits perfectly with the pretrib rapture.

Like a glove.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

But if the bible is true, and you insist on "going through the trib" you will have to obey and take the mark.

So this means you'll take the mark?

I can see you doing that.

Not obeying Jesus to endure in Him will do that.


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[Psalm1]

So this means you'll take the mark?

I can see you doing that.

Not obeying Jesus to endure in Him will do that.


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Your hatred of me should not taint your Bible view.

Not here to play games.
Sorry.

 

[Lovette]

The setting before the flood.
Jesus setting.
You are threatened by Jesus words ?

To the point of telling him his word is a weapon?

Oh wait...yes it is a weapon against your omissions.

The facts of mat 24 are indeed against you.
Testifying mightily and cutting your omissions to pieces.

Says you who omitted Matt. 24:38-39. Who in what way was taken "before" the flood?

 

[Lovette]

Lol
1. Cor 15
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Hard to wiggle out of it eh?

"‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest. He shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it. And you shall offer on that day, when you wave the sheaf, a male lamb of the first year, without blemish, as a burnt offering to the Lord. " (Lev. 23:10-12)

 

[Lovette]

Lol.
I asked you about firstfruits of the resurrection wording in Rev 20.
You TOLD ME, The 144,000 are the firstfruits.

So now, 50 sentences later, your silly damage control has you dancing all around that fact.

You can't admit you are way off.
Read 1 cor 15:20

Don't spin it.
Just read it as a fact


Then read Rev 20 with THAT FACT factored in.

Now we have brand new, non postrib spin info, we can move forward. on.

Whatever dislike you have of me should not be such a stumbling block of truth.

I didn't tell you that, Rev. 14:4 did. I did read it as a fact, you didn't. Rev. 14:4 doesn't contradict 1 Cor. 15:20, the difference is in Lev. 23. You rejected it, that's your problem.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Your hatred of me should not taint your Bible view.

Not here to play games.
Sorry.

Not playing games. This is the decision you will have to make.

Please pre-tribbers, choose the Lord and refuse the mark. This is why you need to build up your faith to endure in Christ now.

It will be harder to do later on when it's too late.


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[Edward429451]

So this means you'll take the mark?

I can see you doing that.

Not obeying Jesus to endure in Him will do that.


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Did Jesus tell you to talk to a Brother in Christ like that? Smile your character is showing.

So why are all you post trib believers so hostile to everyone? Does it come from one of Jesus's teachings?

 

[Lovette]

Yawn.
The entire damage control you are doing will not, and can not erase 1 cor 15.

You really need Jesus to not be firstfruits huh?

I really need you to figure out what you're ranting about in the first place. Firstfruits of the dead is one thing, firstfruits of the harvest is quite another. I know the difference very well, you don't.

 

[Psalm1]

Says you who omitted Matt. 24:38-39. Who in what way was taken "before" the flood?

Here it is.
I would say it is impossible to miss.

Mat 24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

It is your doctrine of "the wicked gathered, the righteous left behind".
That omits BEFORE THE FLOOD.

That is your doctrine.
Are you now seeing how far off it is????????


SO YES, you are, as is your doctrine, oblivious that you have inadvertently assigned a "wicked rapture", PRETRIB.
Ahem..."before the flood wicked gathered".
....and all of you are oblivious to it.

When "before the flood" is reframed ( do we dare say omitted), and you guys seem to get some traction, but actually once all the wording is left intact, a postrib rapture in no way fits at all.

Look at how you keep struggling with a no brainer.

 

[Lovette]

Did Jesus tell you to talk to a Brother in Christ like that? Smile your character is showing.

So why are all you post trib believers so hostile to everyone? Does it come from one of Jesus's teachings?

How exactly do you define "rapture"? If it's just a vague notion of the church's "removal from the earth to heaven" in a supernatural way, then that's absolutely a false hope.Our real blessed hope is resurrection, you should be ashamed of replacing it with such a fictional fantasy.

 

[Psalm1]

I really need you to figure out what you're ranting about in the first place. Firstfruits of the dead is one thing, firstfruits of the harvest is quite another. I know the difference very well, you don't.

You got to look at in raw form.

Firstfruits will ALWAYS point to HARVEST.
So unbelievably simple.

Jesus BEING FIRSTFRUITS , AUTOMATICALLY points to HARVEST.

HARVEST (grain harvest), is 3 or 4 parts depending on how you view it.
1 firstfruits
2 main harvest
3 corners and gleaners
4 if not combined we can say cleaners is no 4.

It is just so simple.

Now, if Jesus is firstfruits, then main harvest is next.

That is it.
That is simply a fact.

Now fruit harvest is another story.
( the Jewish harvest)

 

[Lovette]

Huh?

You just posted a verse in Matt 24 where angels gather, ( NOT JESUS) and that gathering is in heaven.

What are you thinking?

The rapture is Jesus Gathering His bride.
Rev 14:14 is Jesus himself gathering.

You quoted 2 seperate events.
They can not possibly be the same thing.

Now we see where firstfruits must be properly assigned.

Now we can see that the 144,000 are indeed a firstfruits gathering OF JEWS PRECEEDING A JEWISH HARVEST.

FIRSTFRUITS JEWS.

They are the same, both at Mount Olivet, your false narrative separates them into two. What are really two separate events are Acts 1:12 and Rev. 14:1, one at Mount Olivet, the other at Mount Zion.

Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey. (Acts. 1:12)

Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. (Rev.14:1)

 

[Psalm1]

Not playing games. This is the decision you will have to make.

Please pre-tribbers, choose the Lord and refuse the mark. This is why you need to build up your faith to endure in Christ now.

It will be harder to do later on when it's too late.


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Yawn
It is us that are with lamps filled.
We are ready for the groom.
We look for Jesus.
We agree with the ending of the bible.
( the spirit and the bride calling out to the groom)
It is us that pray Jesus command ( "pray that you may be counted worthy to ESCAPE the things about to come upon the world, and stand before thecson of man")
You can not honestly do any of that in faith.
Your faith is in the trib.
You think there is nothing else.

We look to Jesus.

Your banner and declaration is " hey Jesus ain't coming" . " The false christ is coming and we are looking for his coming"

On top of a that, uou have no verses and I quite handily defend the pretrib rapture doctrine ...while showing the utter folley of the postrib doctrine.

 

[Lovette]

Examine the setting of "like manner" in Acts 1 ascension and Jesus 2nd Coming in Rev 19.

There is ZERO like manner.

However, like manner fits perfectly with the pretrib rapture.

Like a glove.

"In like manner" is defined in Zech. 14:1-4, the Lord shall return to Mount Olives as he ascended from Mount Olives. No secret pre-trib alien abduction at any random time from any random place. You're embarrassing yourself.


Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

 

[Psalm1]

Yawn
It is us that are with lamps filled.
We are ready for the groom.
We look for Jesus.
We agree with the ending of the bible.
( the spirit and the bride calling out to the groom)
It is us that pray Jesus command ( "pray that you may be counted worthy to ESCAPE the things about to come upon the world, and stand before thecson of man")
You can not honestly do any of that in faith.
Your faith is in the trib.
You think there is nothing else.

We look to Jesus.

Your banner and declaration is " hey Jesus ain't coming" . " The false christ is coming and we are looking for his coming"

On top of a that, uou have no verses and I quite handily defend the pretrib rapture doctrine ...while showing the utter folley of the postrib doctrine.

^^and you can take that to the bank^^^

 

[Lovette]

Here it is.
I would say it is impossible to miss.

I would say you don't understand what "UNTIL" means, or the fact that Noah entered into the Ark he built without any supernatural "snatch".