Are You Rapture Ready?

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Lovette said:
"In like manner" is defined in Zech. 14:1-4, no secret pre-trib alien abduction. You're embarrassing yourself.


Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
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Uh, not at all.

What in earth are you talking about?

The ascension is pictured vividly in Acts 1.

What you posted is NOWHERE NEAR "LIKE MANNER".

No city shake
No houses rifled
No "going against nations "
No "fighting a battle"
No women ravished

You do not know the setting?
You never read acts 1?
You really think "OPPOSITE" means "like"

You just posted a setting opposite of Acts one ascension, then tell me I am embarrased?

I am embarrassed

Embarrassed for you my friend.

Maybe look up what like manner means???
I draw a blank trying to get past your mishandling of simple truths.
 
Psalm1 said:
You got to look at in raw form.

Firstfruits will ALWAYS point to HARVEST.
So unbelievably simple.

Jesus BEING FIRSTFRUITS , AUTOMATICALLY points to HARVEST.

HARVEST (grain harvest), is 3 or 4 parts depending on how you view it.
1 firstfruits
2 main harvest
3 corners and gleaners
4 if not combined we can say cleaners is no 4.

It is just so simple.

Now, if Jesus is firstfruits, then main harvest is next.

That is it.
That is simply a fact.

Now fruit harvest is another story.
( the Jewish harvest)
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No matter how you spin it, there're only two resurrections, first one of the church is in Rev. 20:5, post trib, unbelievably simple. I view it as one integral event as the fulfillment of Jn. 5:28-29 instead of dicing and splicing to fit into your false narrative.
 
Psalm1 said:
Uh, not at all.

What in earth are you talking about?

The ascension is pictured vividly in Acts 1.

What you posted is NOWHERE NEAR "LIKE MANNER".

No city shake
No houses rifled
No "going against nations "
No "fighting a battle"
No women ravished

You do not know the setting?
You never read acts 1?
You really think "OPPOSITE" means "like"

You just posted a setting opposite of Acts one ascension, then tell me I am embarrased?

I am embarrassed

Embarrassed for you my friend.

Maybe look up what like manner means???
I draw a blank trying to get past your mishandling of simple truths.
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What I posted shows "like manner" as at the exact same location of Mount Olives where his elect will be gathered, according to the prophecy. You should be embarrassed of your disbelief in the word of God.
 
Lovette said:
I would say you don't understand what "UNTIL" means, or the fact that Noah entered into the Ark he built without any supernatural "snatch".
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Mat 24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Amen.
The flood came and took them away.


Now look it all in context.
( without any need for changes or omissions)
Mat 24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Before the flood..normal life.
Before judgement?, normal life.

"Then shall 2 be in a field..."

Before the flood 2 shall be in a field.

Now restart your examination.
No spin, no reddit trails.
Just try
Try without and omissions or additives
 
Lovette said:
No matter how you spin it, there're only two resurrections, first one of the church is in Rev. 20:5, post trib, unbelievably simple. I view it as one integral event as the fulfillment of Jn. 5:28-29 instead of dicing and splicing to fit into your false narrative.
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Jesus is the firstfruits of the 1st resurrection.
That points to hmain harvest.
1st resurrection AUTOMATICALLY HAS 2 PARTS ACCORDING TO THE WORD.
AUTOMATICALLY A 2 PART DEAL.

NOW..harvest is more than 2 parts.
( and you still do not know firstfruits AUTOMATICALLY POINTS TO HARVEST)
After all those sentences and walking you through it, you still do not know that Jesus being the firstfruits, points to a multi layered, multi event, first resurrection.

So no matter what...you need all that to go away.

It never will.
God's eternal word.
 
Lovette said:
"In like manner" is defined in Zech. 14:1-4, the Lord shall return to Mount Olives as he ascended from Mount Olives. No secret pre-trib alien abduction at any random time from any random place. You're embarrassing yourself.


Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
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Maybe it will help to see the pretrib rapture dynamic.
Let's test fit it.

A solo Jesus coming for his bride, and only takes those belonging to him.
His immediate close ones.
Then ascending into the air, and the virgin parable has the groom taking his bride into the marriage chamber.

...and note the TOTAL absence of your second coming rapture theory;
ACTS 1 LIKE MANNER RETURN;
White horses...missing and way way off
Power and great glory..missing
Swords...missing
Warrior king....missing
Robe dipped in blood....missing
Bride becoming the wife...missing
Saints on white horses....missing
wearing a crown....missing
Slaughtering the AC....missing
Setting up earthly kingdom.....missing

Like manner has Nothing to do with geographic location.
( I can " run like the wind" in Florida or nevada")

So the non factor of location, has become your pivotal foundation?

I am amazed you even brought up "like manner"
It testifies so decisively against any connection with your postrib theory.

Thanks for actually pointing it out.
 
Lovette said:
I didn't tell you that, Rev. 14:4 did. I did read it as a fact, you didn't. Rev. 14:4 doesn't contradict 1 Cor. 15:20, the difference is in Lev. 23. You rejected it, that's your problem.
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Huh?

Jesus is the firstfruits OF THE RESURRECTION.

IN REV 14 THE JEWS ARE FIRSTFRUITS.

Please please just read it in raw form

You don't realize what you are doing?????

Jesus = firstfruits
144,000 JEWS = firstfruits.

Just read it as a fact.
No change needed.
It is way way simple.
No additives
No editorial.
It needs to be on the table as a simple fact.
Once that is accepted AND LEFT ALONE, the picture can be put together.

Now the dots are so unbelievably easy to connect.

Relax and let it flow out before you.
I promise it will make you smile.
 
Lovette said:
They are the same, both at Mount Olivet, your false narrative separates them into two. What are really two separate events are Acts 1:12 and Rev. 14:1, one at Mount Olivet, the other at Mount Zion.

Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey. (Acts. 1:12)

Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. (Rev.14:1)
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I am going to pause and say to you, your analytical mind is a good thing.

I do like that about you.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
You're going to go through the GT. I want you to think seriously about what you'll do.

The mark will be instituted. If you don't take it, you won't be able to buy and sell without it. Plus you will be beheaded for that refusal.

If you take it, it will be seen as trusting the antichrist instead of God, denying Him.

I know none of you pre-tribbers want to think about that, but that is what's going to happen, and you must decide who you really trust - God or the antichrist.


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Ok
Thanks for looking out for us.

Bless you!
 
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Edward429451 said:
Did Jesus tell you to talk to a Brother in Christ like that? Smile your character is showing.

So why are all you post trib believers so hostile to everyone? Does it come from one of Jesus's teachings?
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It is love to warn people of coming danger and how to survive it. If you see it as hostile and keep going withou following instructions to keep you safe, that is on you.


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Psalm1 said:
Yawn
It is us that are with lamps filled.
We are ready for the groom.
We look for Jesus.
We agree with the ending of the bible.
( the spirit and the bride calling out to the groom)
It is us that pray Jesus command ( "pray that you may be counted worthy to ESCAPE the things about to come upon the world, and stand before thecson of man")
You can not honestly do any of that in faith.
Your faith is in the trib.
You think there is nothing else.

We look to Jesus.

Your banner and declaration is " hey Jesus ain't coming" . " The false christ is coming and we are looking for his coming"

On top of a that, uou have no verses and I quite handily defend the pretrib rapture doctrine ...while showing the utter folley of the postrib doctrine.
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Okay, well I warned you like God wanted me to.

Now you can't say you weren't and blame God and the post-trib believers.


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Just curious:

When the GT is here, are you going to take the mark, or refuse it and be beheaded?


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Mixed up here I'd say. The antichrist will come out during the tribulation=first 3-1/2 yrs demanding the mark. By the time the GT=God's wrath comes the ac, the wicked and the converts, who believed after the Rapture are here. You keep using scare tactics to add to your story and that's sad. I guess the fact that God has never punished His obedient children doesn't phase you, and what good parent would punish their obedient good children along with their rebellious ungodly children? You're saying God would?
 
faithlife said:
Mixed up here I'd say. The antichrist will come out during the tribulation=first 3-1/2 yrs demanding the mark. By the time the GT=God's wrath comes the ac, the wicked and the converts who believed after the Rapture are here. You keep using scare tactics to add to your story and that's sad.
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Oh, I didn't ask you. You can do whatever you like since you think you know everything..... 🤭


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Edward429451 said:
So you call that love do you? So you don't listen to Jesus. I thought so.
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Edward429451 said:
So it was God that told you to be a troll? You attach God's name to your crummy speech patterns and personality. Wow, just wow.
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*Shrug* You may see these things as evil, but if God doesn't, I don't care .

God says people would do things like you did. Lord Jesus experienced it from the religious crowd. So He said to expect it myself, and you did as He predicted, like clockwork! 🤭

I feel so sorry for you....


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
*Shrug* You may see these things as evil, but if God doesn't, I don't care .

God says people would do things like you did. Lord Jesus experienced it from the religious crowd. So He said to expect it myself, and you did as He predicted, like clockwork! 🤭

I feel so sorry for you....



I call BS on everything you say. It's all lies.
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