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Investigating and tracking down where the funds for the paid protestors and pro-IRGC disinfo that the leftwing nuts have foolishly tied themselves to to slake their TDS. I won't spoil who, but in a general sense it's not too surprising.

 

The Mystery of Ezekiel 38&39 Jonathan Cahn Sermon


He makes an interesting point that I think all Bible Expositors agree with.

First, the seven year period of Israel cleaning up from this war does seem to be more than a coincidence with the 7 year tribulation. It does seem that a miraculous intervention by God to defeat the Ezekiel 38 attack on Israel would pave the way for Antichrist to confirm a covenant with Israel. People have theorized that as well.

But the point he makes which I think everyone agrees with is that the US is not there. Since what is happening right now is the first time in Israel's history that Iran has directly attacked them (prophesied in Ezekiel 38), first time that Turkey has gotten involved to rally all the Islamic nations against Israel (Ezekiel 38 also mentions their involvement) and the first time that Russia is also getting directly involved in a war with Israel (Ezekiel 38 also mentions them). So then, why no mention of the US? He doesn't answer that question but gives you three possible explanations. First, the US doesn't want to get involved. Since the US already is involved I would rule that one out. Second, the US is unable to get involved, perhaps dealing with another crisis say a health crisis or economic crisis. Again, since they are already involved and have sent massive military equipment I am willing to rule that one out as well. Third, the US is destroyed as a superpower and thus is unable to get involved.

Since everyone agrees that the US is not in this prophecy, nor are they referred to in other prophesies about the end times events with Israel, the question I have does the Bible prophesy of the leading superpower of the day being destroyed as a superpower? Yes, it does.

1. The "Great" Babylon is destroyed in one hour. This is a destruction from God, judging this nation Himself and is likened to the judgment in Matthew 18 about offending little ones and having a millstone tied around your neck and thrown into the midst of the sea.

2. We also have a picture of Daniel, a raptured saint who is raptured out of Babylon when it was the superpower of the day and they also are destroyed in one day after the writing on the wall sign. After Daniel is raptured we see Shadrach, Meshach and Abedenego who are saved out of the fiery trial of the tribulation.

I have shared in great detail already about this, if you gather every single reference to this coming destruction of the Great Babylon the only nation that it can refer to is the USA. Yes, there are verses that could be interpreted as the Vatican, or Jerusalem, or London, or even Iraq. But no other location can fit every verse other than the USA.

3. And yes, in Ezekiel 38 the USA is referred to if you understand they are the Great Babylon. They would be the nation of unwalled villages that is plundered for their great wealth and their cattle. Israel does not have a large amount of cattle, nor are they composed of "unwalled villages". Half of the world's Jews live in the US so it is perfectly reasonable that this prophesy about unwalled villages refer to the US.

This is the only interpretation that explains why the US is not there in end time prophesy while also agreeing that what we are seeing now with the war with Iran is referred to in Ezekiel 38.

Finally, one last confirming point, @ChristRoseFromTheDead disagrees with this interpretation.

Also please note, if we are seeing Ezekiel 38 that war almost certainly ends with nuclear weapons being fired.
 
ZNP said:

The Mystery of Ezekiel 38&39 Jonathan Cahn Sermon


He makes an interesting point that I think all Bible Expositors agree with.

First, the seven year period of Israel cleaning up from this war does seem to be more than a coincidence with the 7 year tribulation. It does seem that a miraculous intervention by God to defeat the Ezekiel 38 attack on Israel would pave the way for Antichrist to confirm a covenant with Israel. People have theorized that as well.

But the point he makes which I think everyone agrees with is that the US is not there. Since what is happening right now is the first time in Israel's history that Iran has directly attacked them (prophesied in Ezekiel 38), first time that Turkey has gotten involved to rally all the Islamic nations against Israel (Ezekiel 38 also mentions their involvement) and the first time that Russia is also getting directly involved in a war with Israel (Ezekiel 38 also mentions them). So then, why no mention of the US? He doesn't answer that question but gives you three possible explanations. First, the US doesn't want to get involved. Since the US already is involved I would rule that one out. Second, the US is unable to get involved, perhaps dealing with another crisis say a health crisis or economic crisis. Again, since they are already involved and have sent massive military equipment I am willing to rule that one out as well. Third, the US is destroyed as a superpower and thus is unable to get involved.

Since everyone agrees that the US is not in this prophecy, nor are they referred to in other prophesies about the end times events with Israel, the question I have does the Bible prophesy of the leading superpower of the day being destroyed as a superpower? Yes, it does.

1. The "Great" Babylon is destroyed in one hour. This is a destruction from God, judging this nation Himself and is likened to the judgment in Matthew 18 about offending little ones and having a millstone tied around your neck and thrown into the midst of the sea.

2. We also have a picture of Daniel, a raptured saint who is raptured out of Babylon when it was the superpower of the day and they also are destroyed in one day after the writing on the wall sign. After Daniel is raptured we see Shadrach, Meshach and Abedenego who are saved out of the fiery trial of the tribulation.

I have shared in great detail already about this, if you gather every single reference to this coming destruction of the Great Babylon the only nation that it can refer to is the USA. Yes, there are verses that could be interpreted as the Vatican, or Jerusalem, or London, or even Iraq. But no other location can fit every verse other than the USA.

3. And yes, in Ezekiel 38 the USA is referred to if you understand they are the Great Babylon. They would be the nation of unwalled villages that is plundered for their great wealth and their cattle. Israel does not have a large amount of cattle, nor are they composed of "unwalled villages". Half of the world's Jews live in the US so it is perfectly reasonable that this prophesy about unwalled villages refer to the US.

This is the only interpretation that explains why the US is not there in end time prophesy while also agreeing that what we are seeing now with the war with Iran is referred to in Ezekiel 38.

Finally, one last confirming point, @ChristRoseFromTheDead disagrees with this interpretation.

Also please note, if we are seeing Ezekiel 38 that war almost certainly ends with nuclear weapons being fired.
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I hold out the possibility that this present debacle could be the ***spark*** that sets Ezekiel 38 into motion.

But as of now, reaction from Russia and Turkey has been muted. If anything, Gulf states and EU are in coalition with USA.

Furthermore, there is good reason to believe that Ezekiel 38 ***may*** be a part of the 7 year trib itself. @TheDivineWatermark has postulated as much and he is a very astute scholar.
 
The US is not Babylon. Babylon isn't destroyed until the very end when the bowls of wrath are poured out. The US will indeed be judged by God and destroyed for it's immeasurable wickedness, but that will happen well before the bowls of wrath.

The spiritual progeny of the pharisees teach that Ezekiel 38-39 occurs before the lord returns, rather than at the end of the millennium as the bible explicitly states.
 
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The US is the Great Babylon

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the splendor and pomp of the
Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.

This does not describe the Vatican nor does it describe present day Iraq.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Revelation 14:8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon
the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion[a] of her sexual
immorality.”

So although Jerusalem is going to be like Sodom and Gomorrah, you cannot say that Jerusalem has made all nations drink the wine of the passions of her sexual immorality. You can say that about Hollywood, and you can claim that Hollywood is run by Jews, but it still would be pointing to the US. So this verse does not refer to Iraq, or Jerusalem or the Vatican.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Jeremiah 20:5 Moreover, I will give all the wealth of the city, all its gains, all its prized
belongings, and all the treasures of the kings of Judah into the hand of their
enemies, who shall plunder them and seize them and carry them to Babylon.

What are the prized possessions of the Jews? Surely it is the Bible, it is the stories. They
have all been taken by Hollywood. Think of the movies "The Ten Commandments" and "It's
a Beautiful Life". Those are close to the story, then you have corruptions like the Lord of the
Rings and the Harry Potter movies. In the Lord of the Rings they describe "the return of the
king". You have Messiah like figures and Satan like figures. The Harry Potter movies are
about "the boy who lived". So Hollywood moves from a movie like the Ten Commandments
clearly a Biblical story, to It's a Beautiful Life, clearly with Biblical references mixed with
superstition, to fantasy with hobbits, goblins, dragons, all seeing eye, rings of power, and
the return of the king. From there they mix in witchcraft to now make the Messiah, the boy
who lived is also the one who is to come, they make him a witch. Iran did not do this, Israel
did not do this, Iraq did not do this. No, this was Hollywood. They have plundered the Bible
and all the stories. Think of the Lion King, or CS Lewis movies, or any of a long list.

Revelation 18:7 As she glorified herself and lived in luxury, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,
since in her heart she says, ‘I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.’

There is no way this can refer to London. They endured great mourning during WW1 and WW2, their entire empire has been decimated, and now they have been fully humbled.
Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no
one buys their cargo anymore, 12 cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen,
purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of
ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, 13 cinnamon,
spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep,
horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.

The US is the biggest consumer on the planet. Clearly this cannot refer to Iraq, or to the Vatican or to Jerusalem. Likewise, if this were the 1800s you could say this referred to the British empire, but no more.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

16 “Alas, alas, for the great city that was clothed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet,
adorned with gold, with jewels, and with pearls!

This verse is the one verse that many use to point to the Vatican because their priests wear fine linen, purple and scarlet. You can eliminate Jerusalem, their priests do not wear purple and scarlet, you can eliminate Iraq and London. But, do the Vatican priests wear gold with jewels and pearls? No. You can see this with the prosperity gospel preachers. You can also see this at award ceremonies for Hollywood which worships Moloch. Once again, the only place that fits all of these things is the US.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

JER 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the earth
drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

In the Bible gold refers to the divine word of God. You could argue that Jerusalem, the Vatican, London and Washington DC have all been involved in spreading the word of God. But the Jews do not evangelize among the nations. England was the first nation to send out many evangelists all over the world, but it is the US that has taken this to the extreme. The Gideon's have given out 2.6 billion Bibles worldwide. No other organization comes close, but the second place organization for giving out the word of God is also located in the US. Also, within the cup are abominations that Babylon makes all the nations to drink. The US forces Hollywood and multinational corporations down the throats of all the nations. Taiwan wanted to buy AWACs and the US forced them to buy our cigarettes as well after they had been proven to be enhanced to addict people and give them cancer.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

In the 1800s you could look at London and say this was true of them, but not anymore. You could argue that the Vatican is influential, but not to the extent that they reign over the kings of the earth. However, the US dollar is called "King dollar" for a reason and that is because it rules over the kings of the earth. Doesn't matter if they are communist or Islamic, or whatever.

Iraq? Jerusalem? The Vatican? London? Washington DC?

Only the US fits every verse on the Great Babylon.
 
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