A time for war.

[ResidentAlien]

Obama's Iran deal was a good one. It was for sure better than anything the Donald has negotiated with Iran.

 

[arlev]

You answered your own demand but did not show yourself where it says "that calling" in the NT!

I have no idea what you're talking about if not the Great Commission.
Did you want the Scripture references?
Sure - I'll just cite one - Matthew 28:18-20

 

[arlev]

Big difference between an appointed Emperor of an empire and a constitutional democratic republic. In the latter the people are the government and can criticize whatever they want about the people they elect to represent their interests and will. When elected officials take the authority entrusted to them by the people and give it to outside interests, like let's say the beast, then they have betrayed their oath.

You've missed the point of my post.
Our calling is proclaiming the Gospel and building the Church.
We are called to allow the Gospel to change individual hearts by our proclamation of the One Work.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The real peacemakers are currently risking their lives to keep even the naive like you alive. Obviously you know nothing of history.

This is such a ridiculous worn out trope. In theory this is correct, but in practice for the past two decades (at least) western militaries have been used to advance the interests of the beast, not the countries they swore to protect. Obviously you've had your head in the sand for the past two decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria (and now Iran) were destroyed to protect a corrupt, usurious, economic system that uses violence to sustain itself. if you support such an unsustainable system, rather than reforming it, then I am correct in my assessment that you are ungodly and serving the beast

 

[Gideon300]

This is such a ridiculous worn out trope. In theory this is correct, but in practice for the past two decades (at least) western militaries have been used to advance the interests of the beast, not the countries they swore to protect. Obviously you've had your head in the sand for the past two decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria (and now Iran) were destroyed to protect a corrupt, usurious, economic system that uses violence to sustain itself. if you support such an unsustainable system, rather than reforming it, then I am correct in my assessment that you are ungodly and serving the beast

I suggest that you learn Arabic. it will come in handy when Islam takes over your region.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I suggest that you learn Arabic. it will come in handy when Islam takes over your region.

Such a childish response to a grown-up issue

 

[Gideon300]

Obama's Iran deal was a good one. It was for sure better than anything the Donald has negotiated with Iran.

To negotiate successfully, two parties need to negotiate in good faith. That is impossible with Muslims. It is permissible to lie to advance the cause of Islam.

Israel negotiated the "Oslo Accords". The idea was 'land for peace". Israel gave up land but got no peace. Abbas of the Palestine authority still pays the families of those imprisoned or killed conducting terrorist attacks on Israel.

Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. They removed Israeli settlements in the hope that Gaza would become peaceful. Still no peace.

America and Israel do not need any more justification for war with Iran. Iran declared war in 1979. Since then, at least 900 Americans have been murdered by Iran. If the various governments of America (and Israel) had any sense, they would have smashed the Iranian regime 40 years ago. It's much harder now because Iran has developed a sophisticated and powerful army controlled completely by by the regime. Sanctions against Iran have been helpful, but have done nothing to change the regime's attitude. Sanctions ended the apartheid regime of South Africa (that has been a disaster) but are ineffective against religious zealots who think that murdering non Muslims is a divine mandate.

 

[Gideon300]

Such a childish response to a grown-up issue

"According to the Belgian news portal “Sudinfo,” a school in the Belgian city of Leuven has decided to make Arabic a mandatory subject in the sixth grade for all students enrolled in the “Modern Languages” program. This isn’t about teaching the language out of pure interest in linguistic diversity. No, the school’s director, Frank Baeyens, openly speaks of a “philosophical and cultural” opening of the students. The goal is to introduce children to a language that is entirely different in structure, script, and symbols. But that’s not the whole story.

Baeyens also emphasizes the social relevance of this decision. It is about providing role models for students who speak Arabic as their mother tongue, giving them someone they can identify with. In a city where the proportion of Muslim migrants is steadily growing, Arabic suddenly becomes a compulsory subject for students in a specific course of study. And this is being celebrated as progressive and open-minded. It seems only a matter of time before the supposedly “progressive” and “open-minded” individuals in Germany also embrace this idea, and this example spreads from Flensburg to Berchtesgaden. Already, Arabic is offered as an elective subject in schools in Germany and France – but only as an elective. The school in Leuven, however, has taken a step further towards making Arabic a compulsory subject."

I rest my case.

 

[GWH]

This is such a ridiculous worn out trope. In theory this is correct, but in practice for the past two decades (at least) western militaries have been used to advance the interests of the beast, not the countries they swore to protect. Obviously you've had your head in the sand for the past two decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria (and now Iran) were destroyed to protect a corrupt, usurious, economic system that uses violence to sustain itself. if you support such an unsustainable system, rather than reforming it, then I am correct in my assessment that you are ungodly and serving the beast

Your logic is akin to that of atheists who say that because all other religions are false Christianity must also be untrue.

Thanks to idiotic politicians who led western militaries during the wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan,
we have forgotten General Schwartzkopf showing US how to fight a war to win.

Historical mistakes regarding wars for which we wish mulligans:

World War II

Mistake #1 – Allowing Japan to attack Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.

Mulligan #1 – Maintain vigilance at all times by monitoring movement of Japanese aircraft carriers with our submarines.

Mistake #2 – Causing too many of our soldiers to die in the Normandy invasion on June 6, 1944.

Mulligan #2 – After defeating Rommel in Africa in 1942 and Mussolini in Italy in September of 1943, continue attacking Germany from Rome along the Mediterranean coast into France and also along the Danube River from the Black Sea into Hungary. Then invade from England into the Netherlands or Belgium instead of onto the cliff-lined beaches of Normandy.

Korean War

Mistake #1 – Withdrawing our troops from South Korea in 1948, which allowed the communist attack in June of 1950.

Mulligan #1 – Maintain sufficient troop levels, especially along the border, to deter an invasion and insure secure elections (as we did in Germany after winning WWII).

Mistake #2 – Allowing the Chinese to invade Korea in November of 1949 almost to Pusan.

Mulligan #2 – Command General MacArthur to defend Korea by surging overwhelming support along the northern border (which he had reached by November of 1950) and then to bomb invading Chinese troops as soon as they crossed, if they dared to do so (which they did in November of 1951).

Vietnam War

Mistake #1 – Supporting the French in 1945 when it tried to reassert its subjugation of Viet Nam.

Mulligan #1 – Support the Viet Minh’s attempt to liberate the colony, thereby preventing or obviating the need of Ho Chi Minh to seek communist support.

Mistake #2 – After Vietnam was divided by the Geneva Accords in 1954, allowing the South to reject elections and then the North to infiltrate until we joined the war in 1965.

Mulligan #2 – Instead of gradually escalating or increasing our military effort and secretly trying to prevent infiltration from Cambodia and Laos, surge military support along the entire border in 1955, and bomb invaders immediately (cf. The Korean War). Then recall General MacArthur to lead the conquest of the North (preparing to bomb Chinese invaders if necessary–i.e., they did not learn from the Korean War).

War in Afghanistan (2001-21)

Mistake #1 – Failing to prevent the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

Mulligan #1 – Prevent the 9-11 attacks by means of FBI and CIA involvement, and punish anyone who contributed to the tragedy because of their incompetence, beginning at the top. (President Bush had been briefed about a credible threat of aircraft hijacking by al-Qaeda.)

Mistake #2 – Failing to win the war in Afghanistan quickly with minimal casualties and cost.

Mulligan #2 – After the Taliban were defeated in November of 2001, continue surging military support especially along the borders to prevent the escape of Bin Laden and infiltration from Pakistan. Insure that the Bonn Agreement in December calls for increasingly locking down the country, holding secure elections by the end of 2003, and implementing something like the Marshall Plan by 2004. Do not depart until Afghanistan is stable for two years, but leave an adequate military presence to monitor the situation and deter terrorist attacks.

War in Iraq (2003-11)

Mistake #1 – Failure to prevent the need for active war in Iraq.

Mulligan #1 – Fire warmongers including Rumsfeld and Cheney. Utilize sanctions to prompt Saddam to allow inspections of suspected WMD locations. Punish his murderous behavior with appropriate consequences, such as no-fly zones or targeting him with precision guided missiles.

Mistake #2 – Failing to win the war in Iraq quickly with minimal casualties and cost.

Mulligan #2 – Using the win in Afghanistan as a model, after the initial invasion continue to surge military support until the country’s border with Iran cannot be infiltrated, weapons (or materiel for making IEDs) cannot be stolen from armories, key infrastructure is protected and insurgency is prevented. Instead of disbanding the Iraqi army, transform it with the help of cooperative officers into a peace-making mission between Sunnis and Shiites. After the capture of Saddam in December of 2003, continue surging support in order to prevent insurgent attacks (such as in Fallujah), insure secure elections (held in the fall of 2005), and implement something like the Marshall Plan by 2006. Maintain the surge (not begun by General Petraeus until 2007), until the country is stable for two years (giving PTSD to enemy elements), then withdraw except for an adequate military presence to monitor the situation and deter terrorist attacks.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

"According to the Belgian news portal “Sudinfo,” a school in the Belgian city of Leuven has decided to make Arabic a mandatory subject in the sixth grade for all students enrolled in the “Modern Languages” program. This isn’t about teaching the language out of pure interest in linguistic diversity. No, the school’s director, Frank Baeyens, openly speaks of a “philosophical and cultural” opening of the students. The goal is to introduce children to a language that is entirely different in structure, script, and symbols. But that’s not the whole story.

Baeyens also emphasizes the social relevance of this decision. It is about providing role models for students who speak Arabic as their mother tongue, giving them someone they can identify with. In a city where the proportion of Muslim migrants is steadily growing, Arabic suddenly becomes a compulsory subject for students in a specific course of study. And this is being celebrated as progressive and open-minded. It seems only a matter of time before the supposedly “progressive” and “open-minded” individuals in Germany also embrace this idea, and this example spreads from Flensburg to Berchtesgaden. Already, Arabic is offered as an elective subject in schools in Germany and France – but only as an elective. The school in Leuven, however, has taken a step further towards making Arabic a compulsory subject."

I rest my case.

Whataboutism. The reason for the destruction of western culture via immigration is primarily because of bankers' wars that destroyed immigrants' countries.

 

[GWH]

Those who cite the difficulty of defeating Iran prove the wisdom of Trump doing so now before they acquired enough power to attack US/kill America.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Putin has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of Donald's war.

 

[GWH]

Putin has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of Donald's war.

On the contrary, defeating Venezuela, Iran and Cuba prepares the way for defeating Putin and eventually the CCP.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

On the contrary, defeating Venezuela, Iran and Cuba prepares the way for defeating Putin and eventually the CCP.

Neocon fever dream that will get us all destroyed