I know, but this will save me time the next time they or anyone else raises this doctrine.
Revolution in Iran
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I had a quick read. It relies a lot on opinion. For example, the claims of Christians being martyred for the past 2000 years. We don't know all of history. The reason you have to put up this defense for your belief is because your belief goes against what Jesus plainly said, and you even acknowledge the parallel passage in Luke clearly is referring to 70AD. You try to read two prophecies into the 3 gospels - I simply see the gospels as describing the same prophecy in different ways.Were the prophecies in Matthew 24 already fulfilled_.pdf
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Were the prophecies in Matthew 24 already fulfilled?
I wrote this Pdf yesterday, it goes through the chapter verse by verse and asked this question. It is abundantly obvious when you go verse by verse that this doctrine collapses.
Anyone can download it.
Let s just put the final nail in the coffin of dispensationalism shall we.
Genesis 15:18, 17:7-8, 26:4
The promise of the Land was not given to a nation but to Abraham’s seed, not to an ethnic group.
There were many seed (singular plural term, offspring) of Abraham.
The covenant nation of Israel which is different/not synonymous with the seed of Abraham.
Their residing in the land, was contingent on their keeping covenant faithfulness. Leviticus made that clear.
One of many that affirms the perpetual promise to Abraham which is different than the promise to Covenant Israel.
Galatians 3:7-9
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
The scripture foretold in advance that God would justify the Gentiles by faith and proclaim the gospel ahead of time to Abraham, saying, "All the nations will be blessed through you."
The promise God made to Abraham would happen no matter what.
But that is different than the law that God gave 430 years later to covenant Israel as a people that they would remain in the land as long as they're faithful to the covenant.
There is no argument against this unless one denies the words of Christ Jesus and Paul.
Supposed divine protection is clouding people's minds.
OK, I'm confused. In one post someone said that Trump is fighting this war so that he could get Epstein files off the front page. If that was the goal he already has a win.
In another post we hear that the true motive is to give profit to the military industrial complex. If that is the goal, he has already won.
Others say that the goal is to test out AI in combat. If that is the goal he has already won.
Trump says the goal is to keep Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Do you have knowledge that Iran has the bomb and so Trump can't win in that case?
Then of course there are others like myself who say this is prophetic fulfillment, and in those prophecies Trump is not the winner. So are you agreeing with me?
Four, count em, four, presidents said " we cannot allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon". Trump did something about it. Americans have never understood Islam, they still don't. Islam isn't a religion, it's a political machine that turns into a regime. It's like Charlie Brown and Lucky, every single time she pulls the okey -doke and every single time he falls for it. It's time America stops falling for the okey-doke with Islam. Trump gets it. Everybody else is still trying to catch up.
That hodgepodge of disconnected bafflegab does nothing to defy the tremendously voluminous fully featured detailed prophecies regarding the "end times" reconstitution (happening now) and redemption (soon to come to pass) of the Nation Israel.
Oh and BTW, the saga of Joseph (a clear compelling UNDENIABLE type of Christ), was entered onto the record by Yeshua for the express purpose for foretelling exactly this! The final reconciling of Christ to His brothers the nation Israel.
All of this prophesied by God thru Moses waaaaaayyyyy back in Deut 30!
[Deu 30:1-6 KJV]
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call [them] to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If [any] of thine be driven out unto the outmost [parts] of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
aka entering into the New Covenant in national repentance, mirroring the prophetic saga of Joseph.
Denying divine reconstitution per Ezekiel 37 likewise.
Clouding people's minds, and corrupting people's hearts (in many cases).
Happened 2000 years ago. It continues today for all who believe.
These new reactions are not always very fitting, the strongest Love reaction did not seem fitting with the big grin.
Tragic to deny what is written by Paul over and over again.
Yes agree 100%!
They always have to go back to the OT and deny what is taught clearly in the NT.
Fully agree on the new reactions! Also on your point. Denying the words of Paul and Jesus, whilst trying to reinterpret them to their own liking. Tragic.
Well that's what I'm trying to determine. I asked for evidence the carriers were headed to port, not for your abuse. Fox News is not a source for objective reality
DJT now saying they are genetically inferior... wow he must really be compromised in those files... he gets it alright!!
My guess it's a high likelihood at least one carrier was hit (or encountered a near miss), and had to retreat. The fire is awfully suspicious. The US govt. is still claiming that a refueling plane just fell out of the sky due to mechanical issues, even though the other one took evasive action after detecting a SAM activation. The pattern of the US is deny, deny, deny until the bodies come home or the families demand to know the status of their loved ones. They started this illegal war for pedos, and they've gotta keep it as popular as possible so honest soldiers don't all drop out the military, and the few civvies who are prepared to be drafted don't realise they're going to go to war for the benefit of pedophiles.
I doubt we're going to know where the carriers are headed or how badly damaged (or not!) until or after they arrive. (Unless we learn it from Iranian or Russian news! Lol! )
But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:29, KJV)
