Are You Rapture Ready?

[Psalm1]

You're confused again. I didn't talk about that. You should have your doctor check you for dementia or alzhemers.

Coincidentally, you keep distorting scripture and His sound doctrine. God is not pleased with what you're doing and His judgment is hanging over you.


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Like I said, your hatred should not prevent sound exegesis.

Name a verse I quoted that is wrong, or stop your erroneous over generalized accusations.
It is obvious you can not debate the many verses that destroy what you were taught.

You can not, and never will, honestly reframe any verses I have presented.
That is WHY you go personal.

 

[Psalm1]

You're confused again. I didn't talk about that. You should have your doctor check you for dementia or alzhemers.

Coincidentally, you keep distorting scripture and His sound doctrine. God is not pleased with what you're doing and His judgment is hanging over you.


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Note not one example by you.

Play it safe and curse the body of Christ?

God will not play those juvenile games.

Get a bible
Honestly debate.
Or go curse someone else.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Note not one example by you.

Play it safe and curse the body of Christ?

God will not play those juvenile games.

Get a bible
Honestly debate.
Or go curse someone else.

I'm not trying to convert you. God said you've hardened your heart and won't accept what He plainly says

John 6:39 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day."

Plus you continually distort God’s word and sound doctrine. What is left but God's judgment? That's your own doing.


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[Psalm1]

I'm not trying to convert you. God said you've hardened your heart and won't accept what He plainly says

John 6:39 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day."

Plus you continually distort God’s word and sound doctrine. What is left but God's judgment? That's your own doing.


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More false witness against the body of Christ.
Sad .
Such hatred and nastiness.
All you got left huh?

I see it all the time.

Glad I am not in that spirit of your workbook.
It takes almost all of you into that spewing wilderness.

SMH

 

[Blain]

You know I think that the question of the thread is interesting. asking ourselves am I rapture ready? can we honestly answer it? and maybe a better question is what does it take to be rapture ready?

I know that this debate is a very long and winded one and I have never seen it end well but regardless of your stance of the rapture be that pre mid or post or even if you don't believe in the rapture at all if we cannot discuss and debate with the heart of Christ then we are just speaking from the heart of the enemy. we speak by the spirit with every word we post the question is which spirit are we speaking by?

Do not let thius debate turn your spirit sour

 

[Lovette]

Who is taken?
Before the flood ?
When?

idk, enlighten me, supercilious one.

They are the left behind ones.
Mat 24
One taken, one left.
Roughly half the church.
Note that their dirty robes had to be washed.
Carnal believers with dirty robes.
The rapture is the bride.
Jesus called his bride worthy ones.

Great, so Jesus takes the wicked who "eat drink and get merry" as his bride and leaves the faithful who get martyrred for their testimony of him behind? Good to know.

...and yet your setting that is opposite Jesus setting is OK with you?

The setting in the ones taken is vivid.
The setting in act one, "like manner" , is vivid.
Your misplaced setting is exactly opposite.
Even the virgin parable( the Bibles most descriptive rapture picture) has a setting EXACTLY OPPOSITE your setting.

Huh?
No red flags?

Even the virgin parable, the Lord comes publicly with a thunderous announcement, no "taking" of any sort. Plus, in this "most descriptive" picture, the Lord came for the wedding where his bride is waiting for him, not taking his bride out anywhere.

 

[faithlife]

You know I think that the question of the thread is interesting. asking ourselves am I rapture ready? can we honestly answer it? and maybe a better question is what does it take to be rapture ready?

I know that this debate is a very long and winded one and I have never seen it end well but regardless of your stance of the rapture be that pre mid or post or even if you don't believe in the rapture at all if we cannot discuss and debate with the heart of Christ then we are just speaking from the heart of the enemy. we speak by the spirit with every word we post the question is which spirit are we speaking by?

Do not let thius debate turn your spirit sour

That's so right on, I had posted something earlier directed to a dogmatic poster on here, that I actually was ashamed because of how trenchant it was. I deleted it. I felt the Holy Spirit saying 'that's not in line with the brotherly love of Jesus, is it?' . Thank God I caved, I certainly don't want to be known for that myself
Wow, just reading the above post calling a 'brother' supercilious, another one luring a trenchant reply but not gonna do it.

 

[Lovette]

If half are taken, as Jesus declared, in your supposed wicked people rapture, then you are believing, half the world is wicked ?

I believe Lord Jesus supposed so, I just quoted his words. The only thing I've "supposed" is that the persons who're "taken" in Matt. 24:40-41 are the same "them" in Matt. 24:39. Feel free to draw any wild conclusion based on preconceived notion, don't drag me in.

 

[Lovette]

So you are saying firstfruits does not point to harvest?

That is hard to swallow, that you need firstfruits changed, along with all the other verses you have changed.

So far, you are telling me that, furstfruits is actually not harvest, that Jesus got the setting wrong in 2 places, and that before the flood, half the world is wicked, and half righteous, and there is a pretrib wicked people rapture of half the planet?

Half of earth's population is saved immediately before the trib? (Before the flood, one taken / one left behind)?

You changed Rev 20.
What about those that keep changing it?
...as you insist on?
Are the plagues layered on top of their heads?

It's hard to swallow your "half/half" presumption. The only "half/half" situation is in the great tribulation, half of mankind will be dead, 1/4 by the fourth horseman, 1/3 of the remaining 3/4 by the four angels, leaving half behind, is that what you're talking about?

So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. (Rev. 6:8)

So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. (Rev. 9:15)

 

[Lovette]

The 144,000 being firstfruits.
That is just empty chatter from God's Word?

You can not understand firstfruits after all I have schooled you on?

Firstfruit Jewish harvest vs firstfruits main harvest of the church.

You still can not grasp the 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT harvests?

Really?

I thought you claimed changing Revelation invoked cursing.

You still can not grasp the two completely different references of "firstfruits" in Lev. 23, after I've schooled on you repeatedly.

 

[Blain]

That's so right on, I had posted something earlier directed to a dogmatic poster on here, that I actually was ashamed because of how trenchant it was. I deleted it. I felt the Holy Spirit saying 'that's not in line with the brotherly love of Jesus, is it?' . Thank God I caved, I certainly don't want to be known for that myself
Wow, just reading the above post calling a 'brother' supercilious, another one luring a trenchant reply but not gonna do it.

We all sometimes respond in a way that is not fitting for a follower of Christ myself included the important thing is that you listened to the spirit after doing it good job

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

It's hard to swallow your "half/half" presumption. The only "half/half" situation is in the great tribulation, half of mankind will be dead, 1/4 by the fourth horseman, 1/3 of the remaining 3/4 by the four angels, leaving half behind, is that what you're talking about?

So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. (Rev. 6:8)

So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. (Rev. 9:15)

They like to confuse their readers on purpose because their false theology is completey fabricated and long- winded, to counter God's simple and clear message that is easu to understand.

I asked God about that, and He showed me this scripture:

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

So this means God sees what they're doing and isn't ignoring their sin. Since they've hardened their hearts and refuse to repent, their punishment is sure and actually hanging over their heads.

They will not survive the GT.

It's sounds harsh, but God doesn't like when these people give false hope to people when God clearly warns us to prepare to endure in Christ.

By the way, your responses to counter their false teaching is spot on. Thank you for your clarity! God put you in to the right thread.


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[Psalm1]

idk, enlighten me, supercilious one.

Great, so Jesus takes the wicked who "eat drink and get merry" as his bride and leaves the faithful who get martyrred for their testimony of him behind? Good to know.

Even the virgin parable, the Lord comes publicly with a thunderous announcement, no "taking" of any sort. Plus, in this "most descriptive" picture, the Lord came for the wedding where his bride is waiting for him, not taking his bride out anywhere.

Reread it.
Jesus took them to the marriage.
The door was shut.

Concerning the Ones that are taken and the ones that are left behind, It is you that says in your doctrine, that wicked people are taken, which is 100% impossible, because it's half of a group, one is taken, and 1 is left behind.
So Jesus said 50% of a group taken, and it is a percentage that interferes with your doctrine.
Note how every postribber omits the percentage!!!
Ouchmiester!!!!
And Your doctrine answers back with half the world is wicked, and half the world is righteous, and there is a wicked rapture before the flood.
So you shouldn't be getting after anybody when you come up with that massive ridiculous impossibility.

 

[Psalm1]

They like to confuse their readers on purpose because their false theology is completey fabricated and long- winded, to counter God's simple and clear message that is easu to understand.

I asked God about that, and He showed me this scripture:

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

So this means God sees what they're doing and isn't ignoring their sin. Since they've hardened their hearts and refuse to repent, their punishment is sure and actually hanging over their heads.

They will not survive the GT.

It's sounds harsh, but God doesn't like when these people give false hope to people when God clearly warns us to prepare to endure in Christ.

By the way, your responses to counter their false teaching is spot on. Thank you for your clarity! God put you in to the right thread.


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Jesus used half taken twice.

So your doctrine says he is confused?

You know your answer.
It is in your workbook as "the wicked are taken"

Too funny.
You say half the world is wicked and taken inn some made up wicked taken rapture.

Hilarious..

 

[Psalm1]

You still can not grasp the two completely different references of "firstfruits" in Lev. 23, after I've schooled on you repeatedly.

There is more than that.
Remember when you thought the 144,000 were the firstfruits of the resurrection?

I think now, you may be getting it.

Pride has a way of changing doctrine.

Go back and read your applications and elaborate dance you did all around it.

You even used "sheaves" in wording to say Jesus is not the firstfruits.

Lol
Bizarre how long it took you to finally learn it.

But no. not really.
I am sure you can not handle that firstfruits automatically points to a multi level harvest.

I think a little more pride removal may help.

Or just keep thinking firstfruits has nothing to do with Jesus being firstfruits of the resurrection, and then God only knows your non applicable "interpretation" of the 144,000 being firstfruits.

 

[Psalm1]

It's hard to swallow your "half/half" presumption. The only "half/half" situation is in the great tribulation, half of mankind will be dead, 1/4 by the fourth horseman, 1/3 of the remaining 3/4 by the four angels, leaving half behind, is that what you're talking about?

So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. (Rev. 6:8)

So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. (Rev. 9:15)

Lol
Jesus said half are taken.

You resist it and tell me how ridiculous that is, and it is Jesus that said in twice in the same breath.

Your doctrine is lying to you.

You are at a crossroads.
Either Jesus was confused, or you are way way way off.

Watch how you will go to doctrine, and rabbit trails, on the half wicked nonsense off your doctrine.



Your doctrine is 100% saying half the world is wicked.

You don't have enough sentences to explain that nonsense away.

Amazing how "every jot and tittle" is your doctrines foolish error.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Jesus used half taken twice.

So your doctrine says he is confused?

You know your answer.
It is in your workbook as "the wicked are taken"

Too funny.
You say half the world is wicked and taken inn some made up wicked taken rapture.

Hilarious..

Your post above is an example of the fabricated stories you make.

You can't even help yourself anymore. That is part of God's judgment....


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[Psalm1]

I believe Lord Jesus supposed so, I just quoted his words. The only thing I've "supposed" is that the persons who're "taken" in Matt. 24:40-41 are the same "them" in Matt. 24:39. Feel free to draw any wild conclusion based on preconceived notion, don't drag me in.

Your are being dragged.
Dragged down by a workbook.

 

[Psalm1]

Your post above is an example of the fabricated stories you make.

You can't even help yourself anymore. That is part of God's judgment....


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Jesus used it twice.
You are basically saying his poor judgement is fabricated.

Tell it to Jesus .
You are totally out of gas.

This is evert postribber final sputter.
Go after the messenger.

That is all you got left.

 

[Psalm1]

I believe Lord Jesus supposed so, I just quoted his words. The only thing I've "supposed" is that the persons who're "taken" in Matt. 24:40-41 are the same "them" in Matt. 24:39. Feel free to draw any wild conclusion based on preconceived notion, don't drag me in.

Jesus used the half taken example twice.

You can not reconcile it or make it fit.

In your doctrine, "before" can not be before anything.

Play it out.
Don't modify it.

Why did he bother to use "before"?

You are now saying Jesus did not mean before anything, because nothing fits "before".

There is "after" , in your doctrine, when Jesus comes, correct?

Your entire doctrine says the church does nothing "before".
There is zero "before"
Absolutely NOTHING HAPPENS BEFORE THE TRIB.
That is your "ABSOLUTE".
YOUR ABSOLUTE, UNCHANGEABLE "ABSOLUTE", is that NOTHING happens ANYWHERE , or to ANYONE "BEFORE" THE TRIB.
Your doctrine has the next event as the AC arriving, or the trib arriving, or both arriving,
But nothing "before" anything.

Your doctrine has JESUS COMING, IN THE SECOND COMING , on white horses, and the rapture at that same time, and the resurrection also at that same time.

"Before", is NOWHERE in your workbook.

So you can not fathom Jesus putting anything BEFORE anything.

"Before" is a brand new dimension.

Your pretrib rapture of the wicked is YOUR CONCEPT.
YOUR doctrine invented it.

....and until now, ALL POSTRIBBERS were oblivious to their silly invention.

Your doctrine is a joke.

It is a mean trick of your mens invention.

All of you are left with attacking the messenger.
It is ALWAYS what you guys do your deathroll in.

It is so comical watching you guys go against the word, and end in attacking me with curses and invented personal deficiencies.

Wicked raptured huh???
Ok.
If it helps your mind.
Pretty bizarre, but I do see how embarrassed you guys are.

In a sense, it would be a natural end to hate the person that left years of futile investment in ashes.

Now tell me all about my personal deficiencies.

Don't open that dusty bible.
It testifies against your error big time.

It is not a hundred red flags to you that you have been asked a million times for a postrib rapture verse and you Can NOT produce even one????????