Revolution in Iran

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I have stated this on several occasions in this thread. Leave no loose ends. Boots on the ground maybe difficult to orchestrate, and I’m not sure there’s a political will for that either, so the key is the Hormuz. If the strait is kept open it will be an accelerant for the destruction of the Iranian leadership.
 
Texasgal said:
I have stated this on several occasions in this thread. Leave no loose ends. Boots on the ground maybe difficult to orchestrate, and I’m not sure there’s a political will for that either, so the key is the Hormuz. If the strait is kept open it will be an accelerant for the destruction of the Iranian leadership.
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At this point, the IRGC is without sympathy from the Gulf state neighbors. And it appears that they have given the green light for Trump's imminent take down of the grid. In fact they may have plotted out this course of action as a team of allies with similar motives.

They want the IRGC nutters gone as badly as Israel.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
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Another idiotic troll account tended by an adolescent.

All that is required is to knock out transmission lines and power plants to 5 major cities. These 5 cities constitute 90% of Iran's population.

These few dozen lines and power plants are ALREADY TARGETED and literally sitting ducks.

Toronto Ontario has TWO major power transmission lines that provide ALL the power for the entire city.

Likewise Tehran is a sitting duck. Doomed. One days of bombing runs per city. Five cities in five days. Do the math genius.

Around five major power plants play a central role in supplying Tehran: Damavand (largest at 2,900 MW, southeast), Rajaei (2,000 MW, west/northwest along Karaj-Qazvin), Montazer Ghaem (~1,000–1,600 MW, near Karaj/Fardis, west), Rudshur (Roudshour, west), and Mofatteh (northwest). These are connected via 400 kV and 230 kV lines/substations (e.g., Rey, Pakdasht, and others stepping down power).
 
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ZNP said:
Only wimps would hand over their lunch money to these bullies.
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The IRGC is now demanding "reparations" for losses. I really don't see Trump doing an Obummer Benjamins on pallets delivery any time soon.
 
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Franklin Graham in the News for Railing Accusation
11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
I Corinthians 5
 
cv5 said:
Anwar Gargash, Senior Advisor to the President of the United Arab Emirates:

“The war must not end with yet another ceasefire - the event must conclude with the containment of the nuclear threat, the drones, the missiles, and Iranian bullying in the Strait of Hormuz”
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Yeah well, when is the United Arab Emirates military going to pitch in to help?

They have lots of cash, are they going to throw $100 at the US and Israel to help with the cost of putting down Iran?



cv5 said:
I really don't see Trump doing an Obummer Benjamins on pallets delivery any time soon.
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Yeah but if the next pres is a democrat you can be assured they will pay reparations
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
This is not true. Israel has not been replaced by the church. Israel born from above and ruled by God himself replaced earthly Israel ruled by men as God's covenant people. The apostles and earliest believers weren't the church; they were Israel and they didn't stop being Israel when they were born from above.
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I'm not sure that I understand your definition of Israel correctly, but I do agree that the Church is the continuation of "Israel". Only now it's no longer "national Israel", but "Spiritual Israel" instead.

The church is the continuation and fulfillment of Israel rather than a distinct entity that replaced it. This perspective, often called covenant theology, argues that the church is the spiritual Israel, with believers (both Jew and Gentile) forming the true people of God through faith in Christ.
  • Galatians 3:26–29: Paul states that if you are in Christ, you are Abraham’s offspring and heirs according to promise, implying that spiritual lineage takes precedence over physical descent.
  • 1 Peter 2:9–10: Peter applies Old Testament titles specifically for Israel—"a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation"—to the church, indicating a transference of role and identity.
  • Romans 9:6–8: Paul argues that "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel," distinguishing between ethnic Israel and the true, spiritual Israel that exists through God's promise.
  • Romans 2:28–29: Defines a true Jew as one who is inwardly circumcised by the Spirit, not merely outwardly in the flesh, broadening the definition of God’s people.
  • Philippians 3:3: Paul calls the church the true "circumcision," asserting they are those who worship by the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus.
  • Ephesians 2:11–22: Paul describes how Gentiles were brought into the covenant promises, forming "one new man" with Jewish believers, breaking down the barrier
 
Journey_man said:
I'm not sure that I understand your definition of Israel correctly, but I do agree that the Church is the continuation of "Israel". Only now it's no longer "national Israel", but "Spiritual Israel" instead.

The church is the continuation and fulfillment of Israel rather than a distinct entity that replaced it. This perspective, often called covenant theology, argues that the church is the spiritual Israel, with believers (both Jew and Gentile) forming the true people of God through faith in Christ.
  • Galatians 3:26–29: Paul states that if you are in Christ, you are Abraham’s offspring and heirs according to promise, implying that spiritual lineage takes precedence over physical descent.
  • 1 Peter 2:9–10: Peter applies Old Testament titles specifically for Israel—"a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation"—to the church, indicating a transference of role and identity.
  • Romans 9:6–8: Paul argues that "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel," distinguishing between ethnic Israel and the true, spiritual Israel that exists through God's promise.
  • Romans 2:28–29: Defines a true Jew as one who is inwardly circumcised by the Spirit, not merely outwardly in the flesh, broadening the definition of God’s people.
  • Philippians 3:3: Paul calls the church the true "circumcision," asserting they are those who worship by the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus.
  • Ephesians 2:11–22: Paul describes how Gentiles were brought into the covenant promises, forming "one new man" with Jewish believers, breaking down the barrier
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All of these verses explain to us how the Old Testament promises of God apply to people who are descended from Abraham according to the flesh. This means that the church does not "replace" Israel, but rather they are "grafted into" the promises. Without any doubt Jews and religious leaders were "broken off" like branches cut from this tree. But God makes it clear, that is not permanent, God can graft them back in at a future date.

No one on either side of this debate has an issue with Christians being children of Abraham according to the faith. The debate is whether or not the covenant made with Abraham and His descendants, and the covenant made to David and His descendants is eternal or if God annulled those promises. Central to that debate are many prophecies that seem to make no sense at all if you spiritualize these promises and eliminate descendants of Israel altogether.

At the heart of this debate is whether or not Israel being made a nation in one day and Israelites walking out of the holocaust like dry bones and into the land of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy.
 
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ZNP said:
Without any doubt Jews and religious leaders were "broken off" like branches cut from this tree. But God makes it clear, that is not permanent, God can graft them back in at a future date.
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They have been grafted in for the past nearly 2000 years. They were never cut off; only the disbelieving ones were/are. Partial hardening means that there always has been and always will be a remnant until the lord returns. That is permanent
 
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ZNP said:
The debate is whether or not the covenant made with Abraham and His descendants, and the covenant made to David and His descendants is eternal or if God annulled those promises.
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Scripture is clear that the old covenant was worn out and ready to disappear nearly 2000 years ago. It is obsolete, gone. God has only one covenant with Israel now, the new covenant. All promises to the fathers and Israel are fulfilled in Christ. Glory to God for bringing his words to pass.
 
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ZNP said:
At the heart of this debate is whether or not Israel being made a nation in one day and Israelites walking out of the holocaust like dry bones and into the land of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy.
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That's the pharisaical interpretation. Because they rejected Jesus as Israel's messiah, subsequently lost Jerusalem and the land, yet still believed they were God's chosen people they had no other choice but to believe the prophecies foretold their future regathering in the land. But that interpretation is based on unbelief, and therefore not what the prophets foretold. Any who believe similarly today are simply following in their footsteps and replacing Christ with the land.
 
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