By your very definition of eternal life.........Eternal life is just that....Eternal life.
If it could be lost/forfeited/walked away from? It would not be eternal life.
Live in your eternal life....Not your doubt and confusion.
Loss of salvation???
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If it could be lost/forfeited/walked away from? It would not be eternal life.
Live in your eternal life....Not your doubt and confusion.
Not now.
Too much is being flipped and rejected as is...
Maybe if the negative momentum dies down.
You keep stoking the flames...
But... OSAS believers need to recognize that swine love to discourage those who have pearls tucked away.
Those who believe we can lose our salvation have undealt with jealousy issues.
Eternal life is unlimited life.
In Heaven, if chosen to... we will be able to do time travel.
That want to limit what they can not control.
And I know you have mentioned this......Some believers will be in the outer darkness during the millennium. Will have shame at His coming. Will be saved as if through fire.
Why is this not enough discipline for the loss of salvation crowd?....Satan. He wants ALL to share His fate.
2 Pet 3:9~~The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.
The loss of salvation crowd is willing that many should perish.
Do you really care?
Then please learn to copy the link and give it.
Like this....
https://christianchat.com/threads/loss-of-salvation.215327/post-5712316
Right-click the post's number and copy and paste link next time.
Jesus did not command what to do.
He simply told them what work God will accept.
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
What obedience?
We will find ourselves believing because we wanted to.
In effect, Jesus was telling them that they were already saved.
You keep pushing things into boxes where they do not belong.
With all your studies and all your knowledge, How have you not proven it to yourself yet?
John 11:25~~Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; the one who believes in Me will live, even if he dies,
John 11:26~~and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
1 John 5:13~~These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
Both sides of the argument assume ONCE BELIEVED means ONCE SAVED. Apart from that premise, the debate would never take place.
I would say that if a believer does not endure, then he isn't a genuine believer. And there is nothing in the New Testament to suggest that salvation is to bring happiness and joy. While joy may be an attribute of those being saved, it isn't the reason for salvation.
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If you believe that you can’t lose salvation, then it’s you that should run from your false doctrine.
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Did you ever stop to think that there are plenty of Christians around the world who are not in a safe zone, like you are, who are living their life in oppression/ underground from government overlords who would just as soon shoot you, if they knew you were a Christian!? Many have been beaten and shot…. Many Kurds are Christian, and have been shot by Muslims in a genocide.
This actually happens in Turkey, in some places in India, in a lot of Muslim countries, in China, in communist countries. The whole world is under the sway of Satan…..till Jesus returns; then he (Satan) will lose.
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If those building on Jesus hay, straw and wood barely survive judgement, will a person stops building on the foundation of the Lord Jesus Christ and starts building on some other foundation (1 Cor 3:11-15) survive as by fire, when Jesus judges them by fire?