The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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The fact that you just have your “everyone hates me” defense ready to copy and paste shows a lot. I could show you all the evidence in the world and you’d refuse to open your eyes to see it.Okay ! Now you are getting somewhere other than "Guilt by association" with Kellogg.. you are making "some truth" progress.
Now you need to show the audience a referenced quote, to substantiate your allegations. I have read ALOT of EGW and have never read anything such as you are claiming.
She wrote over 25 million word, of enlightenment of God's Word, councils for The Righteousness of Christ, inspired by the Holy Spirit and I can't image the Holy Spirit giving council for what you are claiming she said.
So ! Like you found quotes of Kellogg, .... SHOW ME !!, EGW's comment of "sex to be dirty" .. cuz I DON"T BELIEVE YOU !!
__________________________________________________________________________You and @Gideon300 et al, are trying to make EGW & ALL SDA's look evil, God judges people on the character of our individual hearts. ... Good or Evil ... Not as groups ! There are many, many Evil People in all denominations, (&SDAs) delutional and calling themselves Christians. These CC forums are a good example. You shall know them by their fruits of the Spirit. ( which leads to Obedience to God )
None of us SDA's have ever said that we are perfect, sinless, saved or uninfluenced by Satan, not even Ellen G White, being Gods Messenger.
Your Character Assassination of Ellen White, is the same as the Pharisees, character assassination of Jesus, and FOR THE SAME REASONS. You hate her revelations of Truth Jesus, and her counsels shining light on the Word of God, where we are required obedience to God, sanctification to be SAVED.
You folks hate EGW & SDA's in general (me) for showing you your love of DISOBEDIENCE & SIN, to God ( "Kill the Messenger !" )
Matt 23:29-31
The Spirit of the Roman Church hates EGW for these same reason, as it hates ALL true Protestants of her. ( eg. The RCC Jesuit order )
Satan hates EGW for helping to bring so many people to Jesus, just as Satan hates ANYONE believing and supporting Jesus. Satan is all about Kill, stealing and destroying people & their Jesus like characters of hearts,
... Just as YOU & Gideon and are trying hard to destroy EGW's character reputation ... "Kill God's Messenger ! "
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We Commandment Keepers who have the Testimony and Faith of Jesus, supporting scriptural understanding, fostering obedience to God, His righteousness, and abhorrence of sin, while many of you folks are supporting disobedience to God, unrighteousness and preference for sin by your aligning with the " Man of sin " in his promoting his "doctrines of demons". ... Those in rebellion against God’s Truth, Jesus ~~> Psalm 119:142 ""Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness (JESUS), and thy law is the truth.**""
Romans 3:21–22___"But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law,** ( in Jesus) although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction."
Revelation 19:10
"And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, 'Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who rely on the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.'"_
Gal 2:20"For I through the law am dead to the law,_ (by Christ IN ME) that I might live to God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
~~ Christ and His Righteousness ~~
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~~ Satan and his unrighteousness ~~
1 Timothy 4:1"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." ( continuing in disobedience & sinning, "kill the messenger" )
II Thessalonians 2-3
"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
II Thessalonians 2:10_
"And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
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Shew ! What a bunch of none sense !!
You really don't know what you are talking about...
AND !! I'm NOT going to argue with you, because I've realized it useless ..
show us, some evidence of your aligations
One, "evidence in the world and you’d refuse to open your eyes to see it."
SDA requires that an individual accepts the teachings of Ellen G White before they can be baptised. White was a false prophet. SDA has what they used to call in the legal world, "poisonous roots". SDA is founded on false premises and adheres to the teachings of a false prophet. The Church managed to evangelise most of the world before SDA showed up. SDA brings nothing of any spiritual worth to the church, only false teaching and confusion.
It brings back the 4th commandment, the one God said, not EGW to Remember Exo20:8-11 and the world seems to have forgotten and instead followed what God warned about Dan7:25. If our earthy father asked us to remember something important to him, would we not want to because we love him? Why would we not want to do this for our Heavenly Father when its part of His identity as our Creator Exo20:11 and re-Creator Eze 20:12 because man can't do this themselves Isa66:17 - the only God we are told to worship Rev14:7 Exo20:11 sadly people do not realize what they are rejecting
EG White destroys her own testimony. You think it is a small thing to claim that Hebrews 9:24 and 8:1 & 2 is in error? Do you place her false "vision" above the very Word of God? Do you believe that the devil answers the prayers of anyone who is not SDA? That's what she says. Yes, any believer can be in error. That is why we have the Bible. SDA places Ellen G White as a higher authority than God's word. If she was in the slightest bit spiritual, she would have seen that her vision was entirely contradictory to God's word.Okay ! Now you are getting somewhere other than "Guilt by association" with Kellogg.. you are making "some truth" progress.
Now you need to show the audience a referenced quote, to substantiate your allegations. I have read ALOT of EGW and have never read anything such as you are claiming.
She wrote over 25 million word, of enlightenment of God's Word, councils for The Righteousness of Christ, inspired by the Holy Spirit and I can't image the Holy Spirit giving council for what you are claiming she said.
So ! Like you found quotes of Kellogg, .... SHOW ME !!, EGW's comment of "sex to be dirty" .. cuz I DON"T BELIEVE YOU !!
__________________________________________________________________________You and @Gideon300 et al, are trying to make EGW & ALL SDA's look evil, God judges people on the character of our individual hearts. ... Good or Evil ... Not as groups ! There are many, many Evil People in all denominations, (&SDAs) delutional and calling themselves Christians. These CC forums are a good example. You shall know them by their fruits of the Spirit. ( which leads to Obedience to God )
None of us SDA's have ever said that we are perfect, sinless, saved or uninfluenced by Satan, not even Ellen G White, being Gods Messenger.
Your Character Assassination of Ellen White, is the same as the Pharisees, character assassination of Jesus, and FOR THE SAME REASONS. You hate her revelations of Truth Jesus, and her counsels shining light on the Word of God, where we are required obedience to God, sanctification to be SAVED.
You folks hate EGW & SDA's in general (me) for showing you your love of DISOBEDIENCE & SIN, to God ( "Kill the Messenger !" )
Matt 23:29-31
The Spirit of the Roman Church hates EGW for these same reason, as it hates ALL true Protestants of her. ( eg. The RCC Jesuit order )
Satan hates EGW for helping to bring so many people to Jesus, just as Satan hates ANYONE believing and supporting Jesus. Satan is all about Kill, stealing and destroying people & their Jesus like characters of hearts,
... Just as YOU & Gideon and are trying hard to destroy EGW's character reputation ... "Kill God's Messenger ! "
___________________________________________________________________________
We Commandment Keepers who have the Testimony and Faith of Jesus, supporting scriptural understanding, fostering obedience to God, His righteousness, and abhorrence of sin, while many of you folks are supporting disobedience to God, unrighteousness and preference for sin by your aligning with the " Man of sin " in his promoting his "doctrines of demons". ... Those in rebellion against God’s Truth, Jesus ~~> Psalm 119:142 ""Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness (JESUS), and thy law is the truth.**""
Romans 3:21–22___"But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law,** ( in Jesus) although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction."
Revelation 19:10
"And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, 'Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who rely on the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.'"_
Gal 2:20"For I through the law am dead to the law,_ (by Christ IN ME) that I might live to God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
~~ Christ and His Righteousness ~~
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ VS ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
~~ Satan and his unrighteousness ~~
1 Timothy 4:1"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." ( continuing in disobedience & sinning, "kill the messenger" )
II Thessalonians 2-3
"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
II Thessalonians 2:10_
"And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
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Why do you not think Jesus is our High Priest ministering on our behalf in His heavenly Temple? Where His ark of the covenant is that holds the Ten Commandments Rev11:19
Twisted words yet again. It is Ellen G White who confuses the issue with her false prophetic vision. Tell me in the Bible where it says that Satan is in heaven answering the prayers of non SDA believers. Tell me why Hebrews 8: 1 & 2 and 9:24 contradict EG White's vision yet SDA confirm it? Or you can do your usual trick of avoiding answering. You don't have an answer. I know how SDA arrived at 1844, but it is a false and unbiblical interpretation. You should try reading Hebrews. Then quit the SDA.
Who said anything about Satan answering prayers, this is again made up stuff. Heb 8:1-5 Heb9:24 do not contradict what SDA teaches it proves it. Most churches do not teach anything about God's heavenly sanctuary.
Ellen G White again:
"I saw that as the Jews crucified Jesus, so the nominal churches had crucified these messages, and therefore they cannot be benefited by the intercession of Jesus there. Like the Jews, who offered their useless sacrifices, they offer up their useless prayers to the apartment which Jesus has left; and Satan, pleased with the deception, assumes a religious character, and leads the minds of these professed Christians to himself, working with his power, his signs and lying wonders, to fasten them in his snare."
Ellen White is teaching that non-SDA Christians — including every Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Anglican, evangelical, and Pentecostal on earth — are in the same spiritual condition as the Jews who crucified Jesus. Their prayers are useless. Jesus does not intercede for them. They are being led by Satan.
God hates those who sow discord. SDA claims that all denominations are spiritual Babylon. So 1800 years of Christian witness, sacrifice, struggle and good works are dismissed. And all on the word of someone who denies God's word.
Non SDA are, according to EG White,
Spiritually “fallen” and rejected by God
Have had the Holy Spirit largely withdrawn from them
Offer useless prayers that Jesus does not hear
Have no intercessor, Jesus having “moved on” to the Most Holy Place
Experience only false revivals engineered by Satan
Make false “converts” whose hearts are “as black as ever”
Are “Babylon” — the corrupt, apostate harlot of Revelation
Are “worse than heathen”
Will, in the final crisis, become the persecutors of the faithful SDA remnant
No doubt you imagine that you are suffering that persecution now. Perhaps you should quit sowing discord and quit promoting SDA false teaching that slanders God's people.
I think it is other members promoting SDA and not the SDA themselves. why don't we get back to the O.P, and quit accusing others and their denominations. We should discuss intelligently about what truly matters in these end tines. Time is short. As Christians we are supposed to help and encourage one another.
Do you agree the Ten commandments are the Covenant ad described and written in scripture?
What is the new covenant?
What did it replace?
What covenant used animal blood/sacrifice?
What covenant used the human blood sacrifce/human sacrifice?.
Do you believe we are controlled by two spirits? We are either serving Christ and He explicitly tells us how in His own words Isa56:6, or by default, we are serving the devil.1John3:8 Rom6:16KJV
This is not an EGW teaching it is a God teaching
We can not serve two masters Matthew 6:24 we are either with Christ or against Him Mat 12:30
Being in Christ is more than I just believe He exists- its be living Christ, obeying Him through faith. John15:4-10 John14:15-18
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
Christ right now is in His heavenly Temple and is interceding in our prayers
Rev 5:8Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints
God said, when we turn our ear from hearing the law of God even our prayers are an abomination to Him
Pro 28:9One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination
Which is what Jesus taught who is God when we lay aside the commandment of God - meaning we don't hear it, its not for me as He quoted directly from the Ten Commandments He said it makes the word of God of no effect and our worship to Him in vain Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14
If we continue in that path the Great Sacrifice of Jesus who died for all of us -now remains no more sacrifice of sin Heb10:26-30
Because John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
Its one thing to sin and stumble and ask God's help in overcoming and doing His will, being willing to do so- God can help us with that to overcome its a completely different thing to not allow God to be God and define His own law or what sin is or what righteousness is or what Truth is and each time this results in keeping the commandments of God which in the Testimony of God which there is no greater than His- He included all Ten Commandments Exo31:18 Deut4:13 Exo20:6, not nine forgetting the one commandment He said Remember that man teaches the exact opposite, has tried to forget and instead fall trap to what He warned about Dan7:25
This is not what she teaches- she teaches there are Christians in every denomination who love God and serving them with the light they have.
“There are now true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion, who honestly believe that Sunday is the Sabbath of divine appointment. God accepts their sincerity of purpose and their integrity before Him.”
The Great Controversy
m.egwwritings.org
Jesus said: Mat 10:34“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword (God's Word)
35For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’
36and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’
37He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me 38And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me
God does not want us uniting and compromising His Truth- His Truth does not change.
Jesus is the Truth John 14:6
All His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151
His Word is Truth John 17:17
Why He speaks of a people, sadly a remnant who overcomes Rev12:17 Rev14:12 All are called - few are chosen because few respond to the call Heb3:7-19 Heb4:11 Eze20:13 Eze 20:15-16 Isa56:6
Sounds like what we find in the Word of God
Pro 28:9One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination
Rev 12:17 "And the dragon was wroth with the woman (church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" — Revelation 12:17 (KJV)
God will sort out the wheat from the tares, not our job.
That is a weird way to say thank you and to praise God that you were gently shown what you were sharing was false. And that you are sorry for bearing a false witness and will never repeat,
“Yes, they have a loose leaf Bible. Just tear out the pages they don't like. They live in the OT and the gospels. Mostly the OT.” Because it isn’t true.
Take care