Revolution in Iran

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Indeed it is true that Satan (and the replacement theology proponents and other sundry factions who deride and deny the Jews) is very mistaken in thinking that God hates the Jews. As is evidenced in no uncertain terms in these passages.

As you can clearly see here, the Biblical facts proclaim quite the opposite: that Jesus Messiah LOVES his wife of old the Jews with a perfect eternal love.

Actually it was against God's law for a man to take back a wife that he had divorced who had been with another man. God said that would be an abomination that would pollute the land. God does not demand men obey his laws while violating them himself. That would be hypocrisy. Yet Christian neo-pharisee doctrines are filled with these kinds of contradictory and unjust interpretations.

And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. Deuteronomy 24:3-4

The only way for God to justly take back his divorced wife who had been with another besides himself would be if she were dead, which is exactly what happens in Christ. All of those in Christ are considered dead by God so that they may live in him. Those not in Christ cannot be taken back. There is no other way to be reconciled to God.

They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 3:1
And that is exactly what happened when Israel was restored to God beginning with Pentecost, and has continued with a partial remnant (the non-hardened part) since then.

And in fact, this is really a good explanation of why natural Israel cannot be restored to the land. It would be an abomination and illegal. Only those who have been resurrected in new bodies can inherit the land with Christ.
 
Our Church Minister doesn't believe that anyone can calculate the time for prophecies to be fulfilled. There are too many things to consider and interpret. Such as "a 1000 years being as 1 day", the bible only mentions this in a metaphoric way and only in two places; 2 Peter 3:8" and Psalm 90:4

Ezekiel 4 is a symbolic representation of the cumulative sin and punishment of Israel (Northern Kingdom) and Judah (Southern Kingdom), specifically leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC, rather than a timeline for the modern state of Israel.


390 Days/Years (Israel - Left Side): Most Theologians interpret this as the period of the Northern Kingdom's transgression, often starting from the division of the kingdom under Jeroboam I (circa 931 BC) to the final fall of Jerusalem in 586 BC. Some scholars suggest it represents a "full" or "complete" span of covenant violation.
40 Days/Years (Judah - Right Side): This represents a final, condensed period of rebellion and punishment for the Southern Kingdom, frequently linked to the 40 years leading up to the 586 BC destruction, sometimes focusing on the reign of Manasseh or a final generation of testing.
The "Day-for-Year" Principle: The 390 days (left side) and 40 days (right side) are intended to be interpreted as 430 literal years (390 + 40), representing the total weight of sin, echoing Israel’s 430-year sojourn in Egypt.
Start and End Dates: The 390-year period is frequently anchored from the split of the kingdom (931 BC) to the final Babylonian deportation/exile. The 40-year period typically starts from the peak of Judah's idolatry (such as the reign of Manasseh) and ends with the total destruction of the temple in 586 BC.
Rejection of Modern Applications: We don't link the 390/40 years to the modern establishment of Israel in 1948 or any future dates, viewing such interpretations (like the "7 times" / 2520 years) as speculative and not warranted by the context.

In summary, Ezekiel 4 shows that God "keeps score" of sin, resulting in a justified punishment that is both severe and finite, culminating in the historic exile.
The Bible teaches us that God is precise. That the proof that He is God is that He alone can tell us the end from the beginning. The Bible also teaches us that it is the honor of kings to search a matter out.

For a prophecy like the dry bones returning to the land to be fulfilled is a glory to God. Seeing the Israelites walking out of the death camps and into the good land and for all that to take place in a single day is an extraordinary fulfillment of prophecy that is a glory to God. But for that same prophecy to have occurred in 1948, the very year prophesied in Ezekiel makes all those who want to deny God without excuse. Think of these ones who claim that God's covenant with Israel was cut off after they rejected Jesus, this proves beyond any doubt that they are wrong because the time line was given in the covenant. It shows the covenant with Israel is still in force, they were punished, they were given a time out, and when the time was up God brought them back.

1.
We limit not the truth of God
To our poor reach of mind,
By notions of our day and sect,
Crude, partial, and confined.
No, let a new and better hope
Within our hearts be stirred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
2.
Who dares to bind to their dull sense
The oracles of heav'n,
For all the nations, tongues, and climes,
And all the ages given?
That universe, how much unknown!
That ocean unexplored!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.


(George Rawson, 1853)
 
Any proof of this???

Like satellite images of mass graves being filled with people and covered up with dirt?

We have highly advanced satellite surveillance these days so post up the video links at your earliest convenience. Thanks.

Yea tons of proof. For the meta of this topic novel, this is where this topic actually began. Hence the allusion to the prelude topic, some of the cooler people here on the News section we were following Iran before on the water crises and other things and these topics kinda flowed into this. When the massacre happened is basically right when Gideon made this topic, so the point of the massacre is the start of the revolution.

How the IRGC turned off the internet to try to kill their people in the dark and how Starlink and Elon Musk pierced the veil and got some videos through which you can find on your own or are mixed in a lot of other media and podcaster clips. These are all big confirmed stories, even appearing before the UN so, it's pretty official. You can find a lot of material posted at the time it was happening too just simply go back and read the early parts of this burgeoning topic.

I did post these a few pages back at the time it was happening but I will repost some clips one from 2 months ago when CBN actually was the first mainstream news to cover the massacre really, and then another from a month ago where CBS mainstream news whom hate Trump and also Trump himself the head of the executive branch of my temporal government and privy to even deeper information corrborates the same inded right before the strike. Again, covered these before so they're not new news, they are in this topic already, but for sake of not leaving you hanging, plus it is actually handy to recap and refresh.



Now if you're wanting the actual videos you mean, yes they do exist and even are public. They are grim but in an unemotional way important since they are corroborated and sealed by the mainstream media. Cause they're graphic I'm post the search query not the actual videos as a sorta extra layer of disclaimer warning and i'll let you on your own discretion watch what you deem fit. Even without watching them though just a quick glance at the titles and sources will tell you that basically all the mainstream news corrborates the videos, they are real, all the mainstream regardless of left or right leaning they all acknowledge both the event of the massacre as well as the videos are genuine. The truth will always remain and the wicked will not be able to bury it with lies, praise Jesus.

 

Coming back to the present then after refreshing the roots, Hegseth and General Caine give a full month end update and briefing. Hegseth again, even though he is kind of a character he's a good leader, he gets out there and he gets stuff done in an efficient manner. He's a leader to watch and we are blessed by God to have good leaders over our servants once again, praise Jesus.
 
Actually it was against God's law for a man to take back a wife that he had divorced who had been with another man. God said that would be an abomination that would pollute the land. God does not demand men obey his laws while violating them himself. That would be hypocrisy. Yet Christian neo-pharisee doctrines are filled with these kinds of contradictory and unjust interpretations.

And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. Deuteronomy 24:3-4

The only way for God to justly take back his divorced wife who had been with another besides himself would be if she were dead, which is exactly what happens in Christ. All of those in Christ are considered dead by God so that they may live in him. Those not in Christ cannot be taken back. There is no other way to be reconciled to God.

They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 3:1
And that is exactly what happened when Israel was restored to God beginning with Pentecost, and has continued with a partial remnant (the non-hardened part) since then.

And in fact, this is really a good explanation of why natural Israel cannot be restored to the land. It would be an abomination and illegal. Only those who have been resurrected in new bodies can inherit the land with Christ.
Of course God solves this impasse by dying and then resurrecting Himself.
That's the modus operandi planned before the world began in order to redeem His estranged wife Israel.

And yes, formerly dispossessed Naomi (a type of Israel) obtains possession of her land by the merciful act of Boaz the Kinsman Redeemer. And yes, Boaz marries His gentile Bride Ruth (a type of the Church), this due to Ruth attaching herself to Naomi.

Try and keep up will you.
 
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Our Church Minister doesn't believe that anyone can calculate the time for prophecies to be fulfilled. There are too many things to consider and interpret. Such as "a 1000 years being as 1 day", the bible only mentions this in a metaphoric way and only in two places; 2 Peter 3:8" and Psalm 90:4

Ezekiel 4 is a symbolic representation of the cumulative sin and punishment of Israel (Northern Kingdom) and Judah (Southern Kingdom), specifically leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC, rather than a timeline for the modern state of Israel.


390 Days/Years (Israel - Left Side): Most Theologians interpret this as the period of the Northern Kingdom's transgression, often starting from the division of the kingdom under Jeroboam I (circa 931 BC) to the final fall of Jerusalem in 586 BC. Some scholars suggest it represents a "full" or "complete" span of covenant violation.
40 Days/Years (Judah - Right Side): This represents a final, condensed period of rebellion and punishment for the Southern Kingdom, frequently linked to the 40 years leading up to the 586 BC destruction, sometimes focusing on the reign of Manasseh or a final generation of testing.
The "Day-for-Year" Principle: The 390 days (left side) and 40 days (right side) are intended to be interpreted as 430 literal years (390 + 40), representing the total weight of sin, echoing Israel’s 430-year sojourn in Egypt.
Start and End Dates: The 390-year period is frequently anchored from the split of the kingdom (931 BC) to the final Babylonian deportation/exile. The 40-year period typically starts from the peak of Judah's idolatry (such as the reign of Manasseh) and ends with the total destruction of the temple in 586 BC.
Rejection of Modern Applications: We don't link the 390/40 years to the modern establishment of Israel in 1948 or any future dates, viewing such interpretations (like the "7 times" / 2520 years) as speculative and not warranted by the context.

In summary, Ezekiel 4 shows that God "keeps score" of sin, resulting in a justified punishment that is both severe and finite, culminating in the historic exile.
A lot of pastors fumble, disbelieve or despise prophecy. For others, its just past their pay grade.
Fortunately, every time a specific time-constrained prophecy is recorded, it unfailingly resolves to absolute perfection.

Such as the 173,880 days to the 10th Nisan.

Or the 2520 prophetic years to May 14, 1948 and June 7, 1967.

Oh yes, the math is spot on. Are you handy with math? Maybe you can calculate this and get back to us.

Hag 2:18
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it.

Lev 26:18
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.
 
Of course God solves this impasse by dying and then resurrecting Himself.

But corruption cannot be joined to incorruption. So too the divorced wife must die and be reborn incorruptible. In fact, it is no longer the old wife, but a virgin.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:49-50
 
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A lot of pastors fumble, disbelieve or despise prophecy. For others, its just past their pay grade.
Fortunately, every time a specific time-constrained prophecy is recorded, it unfailingly resolves to absolute perfection.

Such as the 173,880 days to the 10th Nisan.

Or the 2520 prophetic years to May 14, 1948 and June 7, 1967.

Oh yes, the math is spot on. Are you handy with math? Maybe you can calculate this and get back to us.

Hag 2:18
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it.

Lev 26:18
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

How about this math... 2026 -1948 = 78 years., how long was generation defined by the people who heard the message first.

Did someone state 30-40 years?

Correct.
 
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Or the 2520 prophetic years to May 14, 1948 and June 7, 1967.

Oh yes, the math is spot on. Are you handy with math? Maybe you can calculate this and get back to us.

Hag 2:18
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it.

Lev 26:18
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

The number 2520 is not in the bible, but is imagined fantasy pulled out of thin air. 7 times of punishment mentioned in Leviticus may refer to an ordinate number of punishments (ie, 7 punishments, the most likely choice), or if it refers to periods of time, then at most a time refers to 360 days, not 360 years, and thus 2520 days. But nowhere is a 2520- anything time period mentioned in the bible
 
Only those who have been resurrected in new bodies can inherit the land with Christ.
Those with new resurrection bodies (like Daniel, David and John the Baptist) DO in fact inherit the land, this is true.
But also those of the Nation Israel who endure the Time of Jacobs trouble and REPENT and BELIEVE and RECEIVE their Messiah. They ALSO enter into the New Covenant, where they are given a new heart and new spirit. These are they who will be obedient to the Lord, never again to be dispossessed of their land their inheritance and their blessings thereof promised to Abraham.

Jer 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Gen 12:7
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Gen 15:7
And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.

Gen 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
 
For a prophecy like the dry bones returning to the land to be fulfilled is a glory to God. Seeing the Israelites walking out of the death camps and into the good land and for all that to take place in a single day is an extraordinary fulfillment of prophecy that is a glory to God. But for that same prophecy to have occurred in 1948, the very year prophesied in Ezekiel makes all those who want to deny God without excuse. Think of these ones who claim that God's covenant with Israel was cut off after they rejected Jesus, this proves beyond any doubt that they are wrong because the time line was given in the covenant. It shows the covenant with Israel is still in force, they were punished, they were given a time out, and when the time was up God brought them back.

It's a feeble interpretation of prophecy. Desperate pharisaical stuff. The resurrection in which dry bones actually do become living human beings is an extraordinary fulfillment of prophecy that is a glory to God. But that takes faith to acknowledge, which neo-pharisees don't have
 
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Those with new resurrection bodies (like Daniel, David and John the Baptist) DO in fact inherit the land, this is true.
But also those of the Nation Israel who endure the Time of Jacobs trouble and REPENT and BELIEVE and RECEIVE their Messiah. They ALSO enter into the New Covenant, where they are given a new heart and new spirit. These are they who will be obedient to the Lord, never again to be dispossessed of their land their inheritance and their blessings thereof promised to Abraham.

Jer 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Gen 12:7
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Gen 15:7
And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.

Gen 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Which is what happens in the resurrection, not before
 
But corruption cannot be joined to incorruption. So too the divorced wife must die and be reborn incorruptible. In fact, it is no longer the old wife, but a virgin.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:49-50
Wrong again! As usual, you CHOOSE to ignore what the Bible actually declares, and replace the objectively true doctrine with one of your own prejudicial opinions.

1. The Law only binds while both parties are alive​


See the following:


  • Romans 7:1–4

Paul explicitly says:


the law of marriage binds a woman to her husband as long as ***he*** lives, but if the husband dies, she is free.



2. Death dissolves the original marriage covenant​


If one party dies:


  • The marriage covenant is legally terminated
  • The restriction in Deuteronomy 24 no longer applies

So the “no remarriage” rule is not violated if death has occurred.




3. Christ’s death is the key legal mechanism​


This applies to Israel corporately:


  • Jesus Christ (as Israel’s covenant husband) dies
  • That death ends the old covenantal bond legally
  • Therefore, the previous “marriage” (Sinai covenant) is dissolved



4. Resurrection allows a new, lawful union​


After resurrection:


  • Christ is no longer in the old covenantal state
  • A new covenant relationship can be formed

This connects with:


  • Jeremiah 31:31 — “a new covenant with the house of Israel”
  • Hosea 2:19–20 — “I will betroth you to me forever”

So Israel is not simply “taken back” under the old arrangement—
she is legally remarried under a new covenant after death has intervened.




Why this solves the Deuteronomy problem​


Without death:


  • Taking Israel back would violate Deuteronomy 24

With death:


  • The old covenant = terminated
  • The legal restriction = no longer binding
  • A new covenant = fully lawful
 
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The number 2520 is not in the bible, but is imagined fantasy pulled out of thin air. 7 times of punishment mentioned in Leviticus may refer to an ordinate number of punishments (ie, 7 punishments, the most likely choice), or if it refers to periods of time, then at most a time refers to 360 days, not 360 years, and thus 2520 days. But nowhere is a 2520- anything time period mentioned in the bible

Really something.
 
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The number 2520 is not in the bible, but is imagined fantasy pulled out of thin air. 7 times of punishment mentioned in Leviticus may refer to an ordinate number of punishments (ie, 7 punishments, the most likely choice), or if it refers to periods of time, then at most a time refers to 360 days, not 360 years, and thus 2520 days. But nowhere is a 2520- anything time period mentioned in the bible
LOL!

Oh there are a LOT of these scary "numbers" in the Bible. None of which you understand. Including Dan 9:27.

2Ki 25:1
And it came to pass in the ninth year of his reign, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, that Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came, he, and all his host, against Jerusalem, and pitched against it; and they built forts against it round about.

Eze 24:1
Again in the ninth year, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
 
Wrong again! As usual, you CHOOSE to ignore what the Bible actually declares, and replace the objectively true doctrine with one of your own prejudicial opinions.

1. The Law only binds while both parties are alive​


See the following:


  • Romans 7:1–4

Paul explicitly says:






2. Death dissolves the original marriage covenant​


If one party dies:


  • The marriage covenant is legally terminated
  • The restriction in Deuteronomy 24 no longer applies

So the “no remarriage” rule is not violated if death has occurred.




3. Christ’s death is the key legal mechanism​


This applies to Israel corporately:


  • Jesus Christ (as Israel’s covenant husband) dies
  • That death ends the old covenantal bond legally
  • Therefore, the previous “marriage” (Sinai covenant) is dissolved



4. Resurrection allows a new, lawful union​


After resurrection:


  • Christ is no longer in the old covenantal state
  • A new covenant relationship can be formed

This connects with:


  • Jeremiah 31:31 — “a new covenant with the house of Israel”
  • Hosea 2:19–20 — “I will betroth you to me forever”

So Israel is not simply “taken back” under the old arrangement—
she is legally remarried under a new covenant after death has intervened.




Why this solves the Deuteronomy problem​


Without death:


  • Taking Israel back would violate Deuteronomy 24

With death:


  • The old covenant = terminated
  • The legal restriction = no longer binding
  • A new covenant = fully lawful

You are the one ignoring the spiritual, ie, literal, sense of scripture. Corruption cannot be married to incorruption. If any repent and believe and die to this world and pharisaical aspirations, then they can be joined to the lord in marriage.
 
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You are the one ignoring the spiritual, ie, literal, sense of scripture. Corruption cannot be married to incorruption. If any repent and believe and die to this world and pharisaical aspirations, then they can be joined to the lord in marriage.
I will be here to debunk, repudiate, and quash your unbiblical replacement theology assertions for as long as you would like.

For the good soil, it will be a process of edification and education.
For the hard impenitent impenetrable soil......not so much.
 
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