I think you've been blabbering, in capable of forming any cohesive thought or showing any manners.
Are You Rapture Ready?
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No verses.
Not even addressing the topic.
Typical postribber .
Attack the messenger.
I do understand your frustration.
Lol.
I can see you are unable to defend your theory.
Actually in over 40 yrs of debating you guys it is rare whe you guys do not descend into going personal.
You don't see red flags in your doctrine of hatred ???
You can not produce a single verse pointing to a postrib rapture.
A postribber dilemma..."The one coming debacle"
Anyone...I mean anyone, can see 2 DISTINCTLTY SEPARATE COMINGS IN MAT 24.
That " before the flood" dynamic pushed you over the edge.
Hilarious!
Never fails.
At some point all of you go personal.
Entertaining...but really dumb.
You still can't produce a single verse for the "zeroth" resurrection.
Be more specific.
Calm down., cast your hate down, and get rational.
I can debate any one of you.
Stop acting like I am as you, (without verses)
Stop that silly nonsense.
And the whole nation of Israel in Egypt was preserved by the lamb's blood on the posts as the angel of death roamed the streets. Those not under the blood suffered death and loss. Those under the blood were saved.
Jesus used 2 escape verses.
The baby Jesus escaped to Egypt.
Lot escaped pretrib.
Noah was gathered into the ark pretrib.
Ahem...the ark is a type of heaven.
You are trying to twist God's word to make others think God never escapes his people.
In the 7yr tribulation, all take the mark or die.
In fact it says power was given the AC to overcome the saints.
Then it says "They overcame him by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto death."
IOW they all died.
No such thing as "making it through the trib".
He delivers His people, but not by removing them from the situation, but in the malady that has arisen. The flood still came. Noah and his family went through the flood, and survived.
I'm not actually relating any of this to eschatology. I'm more concerned with helping people in their daily walk with God. Christians have nothing to fear. We are more than conquerors. We live well when we live trusting God and knowing His ways.
Yeah, God moves His people around, within, and through the difficulties - even heavenly ones - of their day.
No, you're adding "they all died".
Jesus talked about His soul being exceeding sorrowful "unto death" here in Matthew 26:
“My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death."
However, His answer to the Father was this:
"...nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will."
This is the assurance that attends the saints in Revelation 12:
"11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto death."
Like their Lord, they, too, will give up their lives if they must.
It does not mean that they all will die, but that, like the Lord, they are all willing to die before betraying the Lamb and their testimony of walking with Him.
By faith, many saints have already endured to the death. Some died, others were released but their testimony did not waiver:
"Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword."
Psalm 25:4...Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths.
Yes I was impressed with this thing we must be prepared as it is said not to be unprepared. Luke 21 v 34 - 36 watch ye there fore and pray always , that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things , that shall come to pass , and stand before the Son of man . Yes we must be prepared for tribulation!
When you go through the GT, are you willing to be not be able to buy or sell and lose your head and your life because you choose Jesus over the antichrist and his mark?
That's all I pray for. I don't care if you falsely hope for pre-trib rapture as long as you build up your faith to be able to stay faithful to Jesus in the GT.
If you don't build your faith up, will you still be able to say "no" to the antichrist and his mark? There is only spiritual strength in Jesus through His Holy Spirit.
Why not cover your bases like @Edify who is prepared either way???
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Those that believe in Pretrib rapture are set up for a fall . In Apostle Paul’s time there where those that said the resurrection was past over throwing the faith of some . Thinking they missed it all . Then Paul corrected the error .
So the baby Jesus removed and escaped is God's error?
Lot removed and escaped is God's error?
The 2 escape verses by Jesus, and directed to pray, is God's error?.
" But pray that you may be counted worthy to escape the things about to come up on the earth and stand before the sun of man."
It is telling that Jesus commanded that prayer, and you are insisting it is batting the air.
You are attempting to present a law that God never delivers out of harm.
...even after you are shown that it is a lie.
Noah did escape the flood. The 3 Hebrew children did escape from the furnace. Daniel did escape from the lion's den.
There are also times when God removes people from circumstances.
But to say God only acts in 1 way and not both is clearly incorrect. God isn't limited. He is sovereign. He does as He pleases.
And again, I'm not exemplifying eschatology in any of my posts. I believe most prophecy was fulfilled in the 1st century and that most people don't understand eschatological prophecy very well. But I have no desire to engage with people on the topic who have already made up their mind.