Revolution in Iran

[cv5]

I would use gobbledygook for nonsensical speech that is pompous while Bafflegab seems more deceitful, a deliberate effort to confuse people. So are you implying that the poster is intentionally being deceitful?

Lol. It's a combination of both!

But realize: what undergirds all of this is not merely ignorance. Though that is common (@Journey_man ). In the most pernicious cases, hatred of Gods elect, the people He foreknew Israel the nation the Sons of Jacob is the primary motivation.

Crazy right? But oh so true....

 

[cv5]

3 generals fired this week. 26 in 14 months. Army Chief quietly replaced by someone tied to nuclear ops. Chain of command reshaped before things escalated… not after.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040482784213655905

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040485319620034710

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040458506667512098

 

[SonJudgment]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040485319620034710

It might have gone unnoticed, but if you remember back to Trump's big address to the nation at the start of the month (posted a few pages back) is Trump's new deadline is Monday until the great Griddown Experiment occurs, unless of course they surrender, not totally, but basically they open the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump gives Iran 48-hour deadline to reopen Strait of Hormuz or "all Hell will reign down"

The war shows no signs of slowing as Iran responds to airstrikes with attacks across the region.

www.cbsnews.com

We'll give the nuts at NBC a little credit and spot here, even though they are obviously trying to subvert the USA mostly because they just hate Trump, they were actually the mainstream media that caught Trump's new deadline, most the mainstream media overlooked it. Indeed like the CBS article states from Trump's Truth Social now today (hours ago), Trump's not bluffing he really did issue the deadline, just most ignored it or overlooked it. The NBC video is from 4 days ago when Trump issued the deadline.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Already debunked many times. Proven conclusively by Proven conclusively and finest quality of actual Bible references.

The doctrine of the redemption of the Nation Israel is so VASTLY overwhelming that only a nutter or heretic would dare despute it.

You follow the rubber room fantasy of Augustin. He was the originator of this monsterous heresy. Easily proven.

An heresy never known nor spoken to by the ante-Nicene fathers and legit early Church.

You're a riot A real legend in your own mind lol. Do you seriously think anyone pays attention to your empty braggadocious language? Or do you not really care because you get paid per post?

• Already debunked many times
• Proven conclusively
• finest quality
• actual Bible references
• VASTLY overwhelming
• only a nutter or heretic would dare despute
• rubber room fantasy
• monsterous heresy
• Easily proven

 

[cv5]

You're a riot A real legend in your own mind lol. Do you seriously think anyone pays attention to your empty braggadocious language? Or do you not really care because you get paid per post?

• Already debunked many times
• Proven conclusively
• finest quality
• actual Bible references
• VASTLY overwhelming
• only a nutter or heretic would dare despute
• rubber room fantasy
• monsterous heresy
• Easily proven

Sore loser huh? Too bad .

You see, the winners know that they are winning. And the winners also know that the losers are losing!

That's just the way it is....

 

[cv5]

You're a riot A real legend in your own mind lol. Do you seriously think anyone pays attention to your empty braggadocious language? Or do you not really care because you get paid per post?

• Already debunked many times
• Proven conclusively
• finest quality
• actual Bible references
• VASTLY overwhelming
• only a nutter or heretic would dare despute
• rubber room fantasy
• monsterous heresy
• Easily proven

By all means continue to cry rivers.
Whereas I shall continue to rejoice in the sure (and near) redemption of the Nation Israel.

Oh and BTW.....go ahead and try to shoehorn your replacement theology nonsense into this scenario. It will be fun to watch .

Eze 37:19 - Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Eze 37:22 - And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Oh and BTW.....go ahead and try to shoehorn your replacement theology nonsense into this scenario. It will be fun to watch .

Eze 37:19 - Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Eze 37:22 - And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

That occurred on Mt Zion at Pentecost when the houses of Judah and Israel were joined back together again as one holy nation of God ruled by one king Christ.

And in the fulfillment of the day of Pentecost, they were all with one mind in the same place. Acts 2:1​

And Jews were living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation of those under the heaven. Acts 2:5​

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: Acts 2:14​

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Acts 2:22​

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Acts 2:41​

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But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 1 Peter 2:9​

 

[cv5]

That occurred on Mt Zion at Pentecost when the houses of Judah and Israel were joined back together again as one holy nation of God ruled by one king Christ.

And in the fulfillment of the day of Pentecost, they were all with one mind in the same place. Acts 2:1​

And Jews were living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation of those under the heaven. Acts 2:5​

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: Acts 2:14​

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Acts 2:22​

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Acts 2:41​

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But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 1 Peter 2:9​

Ohhhhh kay. You did not read a couple of verses down.
Let me help you:

Eze 37:19 - Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Eze 37:22 - And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

Eze 37:24
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

Eze 37:25
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

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So tell us, what is all of this "dwelling" and "land" and "children" and "possessing" and "forever" business anyway?
Are you telling us that all of it is just a big hoax and Augustine (the weaver of myths) is right and God has failed miserably?
Are you telling us that the Church is going to be regathered "one by one" by the angels after the Time of Jacobs trouble and reside in the LAND of ISRAEL forever and ever?

Jer 7:7
“then I will cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever.

Isa 34:17
He has cast the lot for them,
And His hand has divided it among them with a measuring line.
They shall possess it forever;
From generation to generation they shall dwell in it.”

Eze 43:7
And He said to me, “Son of man, this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever. No more shall the house of Israel defile My holy name, they nor their kings, by their harlotry or with the carcasses of their kings on their high places.

Psa 125:2
As the mountains surround Jerusalem,
So the LORD surrounds His people
From this time forth and forever.

 

[cv5]

That occurred on Mt Zion at Pentecost when the houses of Judah and Israel were joined back together again as one holy nation of God ruled by one king Christ.

And in the fulfillment of the day of Pentecost, they were all with one mind in the same place. Acts 2:1​

And Jews were living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation of those under the heaven. Acts 2:5​

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: Acts 2:14​

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Acts 2:22​

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Acts 2:41​

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But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 1 Peter 2:9​

Yes, the Church is presently the holy nation.
Then shall surely come the redeemed Nation Israel, who will likewise become perfectly righteous and holy.

Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Act 3:21
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

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Aaaannnd here is your prophet! Just one of them. There are dozens more that say precisely the same thing! Including Jesus Himself.

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Dan 7:17
‘Those great beasts, which are four, are four kings which arise out of the earth.

Dan 7:18
‘But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever.’

Dan 7:19
“Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet;

Dan 7:20
“and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.

Dan 7:21
“I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, (this is NOT the Church!).

Dan 7:22
“until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

 

[cv5]

The sheep, ie., Christ's brothers, in that parable are those who do the will of God. Again, you are teaching the doctrine of the pharisees that rewards unbelief and rebellion against God

And He answered them, saying, Who is My mother or My brothers? And having looked around on those sitting around Him in a circle, He said, Behold, My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of GOD, this one is My brother, and My sister, and My mother. Mark 3:33-35​

Speaking of brothers, did Augustin fail to recognize the intended prophetic type of Joseph and his brothers?
And the intended prophetic type of Boaz and Naomi?

Pity.

Hey, who knows, maybe he ignored the whole thing on purpose to sell his doctrinal snake oil.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Yes, the Church is presently the holy nation.
Then shall surely come the redeemed Nation Israel, who will likewise become perfectly righteous and holy.

The disciples and men of Israel and Judah at Pentecost weren't the church. They were Israel, and they didn't stop being Israel because they believed. In fact, their faith is what made them the true Israel of God.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

So tell us, what is all of this "dwelling" and "land" and "children" and "possessing" and "forever" business anyway?
Are you telling us that all of it is just a big hoax and Augustine (the weaver of myths) is right and God has failed miserably?
Are you telling us that the Church is going to be regathered "one by one" by the angels after the Time of Jacobs trouble and reside in the LAND of ISRAEL forever and ever?

Yes they were dwelling in the land at peace. And all Israel will live forever in the land at the resurrection. Nobody dwells in the land forever until Christ his return. Even any in modern Israel who are believing at the lord's return will be taken off the land for a period of time and then return with him and all Israel.

 

[cv5]

Yes they were dwelling in the land at peace. And all Israel will live forever in the land at the resurrection. Nobody dwells in the land forever until Christ his return. Even any in modern Israel who are believing at the lord's return will be taken off the land for a period of time and then return with him and all Israel.

But wait: where has the Church gone? AWOL? You said hundreds of times that there is no more "Israel" and no more "land" either.

Can somebody help me out here?
Is this gobbledygook or bafflegab?

@ZNP ? Anybody?

 

[ZNP]

But wait: where has the Church gone? AWOL? You said hundreds of times that there is no more "Israel" and no more "land" either.

Can somebody help me out here?
Is this gobbledygook or bafflegab?

@ZNP ? Anybody?

Don't ask me, I don't read his posts.

 

[LTTexan]

But wait: where has the Church gone? AWOL? You said hundreds of times that there is no more "Israel" and no more "land" either.

Can somebody help me out here?
Is this gobbledygook or bafflegab?

@ZNP ? Anybody?

Oh yeah that's bafflegab right there!

 

[cv5]

The disciples and men of Israel and Judah at Pentecost weren't the church. They were Israel, and they didn't stop being Israel because they believed. In fact, their faith is what made them the true Israel of God.

Oohhhh they WEREN'T "the Church" you say.

Ok wait, so now you are saying that ISRAEL has "replaced" the Church. Is that your story now? Some kind of replacement theology in reverse?

Or wait..... maybe you are saying that Israel believers and gentile believers are like...."separate"....or whatever.

Can you provide a few Bible passages to support your claims? One way or another? Just throw us a bone here.

 

[Journey_man]

With all due respect, I must reject your views and believe what my Minister teaches instead.
He taught us that, "Every date-setter in history has been wrong. Such predictions bring disrepute to the Gospel and cause unnecessary trauma when the date passes".

Certainly NOT true.

I have done the investigation and calculations myself (several times), and have concluded that May 14, 1948 and June 7, 1967 do in fact fall prophetically and mathematically in accord with earlier dates that God intentionally (INTENTIONALLY!) marked for reference.

Get this idea firmly fixed in your mind: God intentionally specified dates. They have purpose. The wise understand this purpose.

Ezekiel’s 430 Days

watchmanbiblestudy.com

Jer 25:11
And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

Dan 1:1
In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah came Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.

2Ki 25:1
And it came to pass in the ninth year of his reign, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, that Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came, he, and all his host, against Jerusalem, and pitched against it; and they built forts against it round about.

Ezr 1:1
Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

Hag 2:18
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it. (Kislev 24, 520 BC)

Ezr 6:15
And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king.

Lev 26:18
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

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BTW, I also hear several (carefully chosen) elite pastors of extraordinary scholarly and intellectual abilities and capacities.
And frankly, I do not FULLY agree with any one of them!
Blithely following one pastor is an amateur move. A lesson you will learn in due time. If you stick around long enough.

None of those scriptures mention anything about nation of Israel, returning to their ancestral land in 1948. And none of them reveal anything about the time of Christ's return.
I don't think we can use the old method of calculating dates, as they did in the Old Testament and apply it to New Testament prophecies about Israel and the return of Christ.
A lot has changed after Christ, "Israel" is no longer refers to an ethnicity, as the Israel of God is the Church.

I follow my Pastor, because he has been appointed by God to teach me and watch over me. My blood will be on his hands if he deceives me. He has been given the gift of discernment and teaching, he is a Shepherd and our Church members are the Sheep. That's Gods design, for His Church.

You haven't found a single fault in anything my Shepherd teaches, so I can only assume your denomination interprets the Bible in a different way. In any case God will not judge any believer, for being deceived by the Shepherd He appointed for them, or for not "cracking the prophetic code" in the celestial lottery.

 

[Journey_man]

This is a brazen assertion that openly defies Scripture. You would be accusing Jesus Himself of being a "date-setter" and "date-chaser".
The truth is that Jesus is the One Who is BOTH setting the dates AND keeping them!

To my point: Jesus "arrived" (for Israel) PRECISELY "on time" in accord with the prophetic template so declared by HIMSELF in Daniel 9.

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Daniel 9:24-27 (the "70 weeks" prophecy) is a precise timeline pointing to the Messiah.
Core elements:

Starting point: The decree of Artaxerxes Longimanus (20th year of his reign) authorizing the rebuilding of Jerusalem, dated to March 14 (or 1 Nisan), 445 BC, based on Nehemiah 2 and astronomical data.

"69 weeks": Daniel 9:25 refers to 69 "weeks" (7 + 62) until "Messiah the Prince." Anderson takes this as 483 years.

Prophetic year: a 360-day "biblical/prophetic year" (common in Genesis 7-8 and Revelation). Thus:
483 years × 360 days = 173,880 days.

Endpoint: Exactly 173,880 days later lands on April 6, AD 32 — the date calculated for Jesus Christ's triumphal entry into Jerusalem (Palm Sunday), fulfilling the arrival of the Messiah.

The first 69 weeks has already been fulfilled historically, with the 70th week (the final 7 years) as a future tribulation period involving the Antichrist. This constitutes mathematical proof of biblical prophecy and Christ's messianic claims.

Nobody is disputing any of the prophetic timelines for the coming of the Messiah, we just don't believe that anyone can use those OT methods of calculation and apply them to the NT prophecies.
I've already explained why we don't, but you don't have to agree.