Revelations on the firmament

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Genesis 1:6-8
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The firmament is a divider.This part of scripture is most likely speaking of this dimension being divided from another universe/heaven.
In this dimension we are the waters below separated by the firmament from the waters above.


Isaiah 34:4-6
And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

When the heavens roll like a scroll this universe is being judged much like when hearing of the word brings judgement unto the people and they're left with no excuse..That is why it is symbolic of a scroll being rolled,or as a sword being "bathed" in heaven and filled with "blood.."
The sword is the word of God,and goes through the heavens like a sickle cutting down the harvest.Throwing the tares into the fire while putting the wheat into his storehouse.His Two Witnesses=water and blood.or the OT,NT.
This is how I know that in this dimension we are the waters below the firmament.


John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Revelation 1:16
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
 
In God's creation there can be other types of firmaments, or made in it's "image."
The Holy Spirit is a firmament.When Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and told them that they were from below, and he was from above,you can refer to them as waters being divided by the firmament, from the waters above the firmament.

Psalms 148:4
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

John 8:23
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

This is a spiritual truth,that the Holy Spirit is heaven on earth.The firmament is called heaven in Genesis.The kingdom of God came down from heaven.The kingdom is within.
Those above the firmament tread on snakes and scorpions.
They walk on water by faith.When the winds come don't let your carnal mind take over like Peter did.But if you do,you can cry out for Jesus to save you.He will reach out his hand and save you.

So what is the wind?the wind is spirit.The breath of God.By his breath/Spirit he created all things.This breath gives you life, and enters your lungs and becomes living stones.Two Living tablets.He makes a way for you to testify of him.
Which means the wind also represents judgement.
100% this is true,because you can see it with your own two eyes.In things like hurricanes,tornados,dust storms and other things as such.Even unseen things like viruses which some get carried by it.
Winds can also be trials and tribulations testing the foundation of your house.If Peter didn't cry out for Jesus to save him what do you think would have happened?he would have died.
If you were walking on water like Peter and suddenly the winds came, and you didn't cry out for Jesus.What will happen to you?
You will become the waters below separated by the firmament from the waters above, and you will die.

2 Corinthians 5:7
For we walk by faith, not by sight.

When you have the Holy Spirit you also declare the glory of God/testify.His handywork is the word.He spoke it all into existence.
The Holy Spirit sheweth his word.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

Holy Spirit=firmament.
 
The ozone layer is another.Like the hand of God separating you from himself.

Exodus 33:20
And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

If the ozone was removed we will surely die.

Psalm 19:1-5
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Their line is gone out through all the earth,(plumbline) and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

The tabernacle for the sun is the moon and the earth.All three of them testify of the Spirit,water,and the blood.This is how in all things there is no speech nor language,where their voice is not heard.

God's language code to creation is Spirit,water,blood which is built on the foundation of love.God is love.He created all things out of love.

You can see a Ark/tabernacle in the heavens uttering speech and showing knowledge at night.
Sun=Spirit.
Moon=water.
Earth=blood.

The sun is giving up it's life force bringing life on the earth.The moon's face shines in the presence of the Spirit of the Lord as Moses face did at Mount Sini.
Jesus came in the flesh and paid the price of sin for all of us on the earth with his blood.
The suns rays coming down to the earth giving life is a foreshadowing of the works of Jesus when he came in the flesh.

I'm not sure if all things have the Spirit,water,blood in them.Or maybe they can be as one as the sun,moon,earth are as one.
It's very possible that within it's make up structure there is Spirit,water,blood.

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
 
The temple veil is a representation of Jesus and is probably one of the better examples of firmament.Spirit,water,blood is what separates us from our former selves from the waters below and raptures us above the firmament.

See,what once was will be again.This is what I mean by God's language code.Whatever was, and is,and will be,Gods word declared it long ago.Even before us.

Jesus the Living Word bares witness to himself through his Two Witnesses of revelation.

Ecclesiastes 1:9-10
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Hebrews 10:20
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh.

Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work: with cherubims shall it be made.

The colors of the veil is for the Word.If you mix blue and red they become one,and you get purple.All three are as one.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 
can you believe that?being the waters above the firmament is a rapture?Imagine how different things in this dimension will be after the heavens will roll like a scroll.When the word is declared as a witness against the waters below the firmament.
 
The exspanse isn't the Holy Spirit, it's a seperation between the higher things and the lower things; that which is eternal and that which perishes.
 
I think there is evidence for the firmament. I have a whole thread about alternative view points of the cosmology ("Concave Hollow Earth") in the Conspiracy Forum, some which directly discusses this in detail, but anyways here are some talking points.


Flashlight has either a plastic or glass piece in front of the bulb.

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Here are sun dogs and moon dogs.

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Ceph said:
The exspanse isn't the Holy Spirit, it's a seperation between the higher things and the lower things; that which is eternal and that which perishes.
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Doesn't the firmament that most of us think of and the Holy Spirit operate in the same way?There's a expanse separating us from God's
heavenly physical kingdom,which means we are the waters below the firmament in our physical dimension.

The Holy Spirit "raptures" us into the heavenly kingdom by separating us from the waters below the firmament and into the waters above.The firmament/Holy Spirit is what causes this separation.

When God created all things he build it on a foundation which is Jesus.To put it in one word that foundation is love,for God is love.

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

If he does it through the blood of his cross then all's you need to realize that it's by Spirit,water,blood which you are reconciled unto himself.Scripture says all things are reconciled in the same way.

Read the rest of Colossians 1:12-22 and you might get a clearer understanding of the verses.

We with the Holy Spirit walk in the promise land.The firmament is called heaven in Genesis.The Holy Spirit is a firmament,therefore the kingdom of God came down from heaven at Pentecost.
This is heaven on earth.Or a remnant of it till the heavens roll like a scroll.
 
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kinda said:
I think there is evidence for the firmament. I have a whole thread about alternative view points of the cosmology ("Concave Hollow Earth") in the Conspiracy Forum, some which directly discusses this in detail, but anyways here are some talking points.


Flashlight has either a plastic or glass piece in front of the bulb.

Here is a flashlight beam..
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Here are sun dogs and moon dogs.

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I'm sure there's types of firmaments that can be seen.But the Holy Spirit,the ozone layer,and the firmament that separates us from another dimension are not seen with our physical eyes,but with our spiritual eyes.

If scripture likens Jesus to a stone,then within a stones molecular structural is spirit,water,blood..If the "natural" process of a stones creation is only made through 1 of the 3 then how it is made is by the other 2,making all 3 as one.

Sorry that's kind of confusing.I don't know how else to explain it.All things come together through spirit,water,blood.
 
Lifted_by_the_word said:
I'm sure there's types of firmaments that can be seen.But the Holy Spirit,the ozone layer,and the firmament that separates us from another dimension are not seen with our physical eyes,but with our spiritual eyes.

If scripture likens Jesus to a stone,then within a stones molecular structural is spirit,water,blood..If the "natural" process of a stones creation is only made through 1 of the 3 then how it is made is by the other 2,making all 3 as one.

Sorry that's kind of confusing.I don't know how else to explain it.All things come together through spirit,water,blood.
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Personally, I think your misinterpreting scripture on this firmament bit. The firmament is in heaven, not some teleportal dimension gateway, but to be perfectly honest, I think I don't understand you at all. My best guess is you are trying to explain a vail that divides man and God.

I guess in a sense, this is true. In the grand scheme of things, it will pretty difficult to prove either way, so this is just like a huge mental brainstorm. I guess I should allow you to explain yourself. I was all geared up for cosmology, but I don't think that was your intent really.

I think in the mechanics of a concave hollow earth, the veil is the firmament (glass sky), and waters. Is that ether or dark matter? I don't know this stuff backwards and forwards, but I will say, that I believe God is much closer, than people realize. No further than 4,000 miles away, but why the discussion? What are you trying hash out?
 
kinda said:
Personally, I think your misinterpreting scripture on this firmament bit. The firmament is in heaven, not some teleportal dimension gateway, but to be perfectly honest, I think I don't understand you at all. My best guess is you are trying to explain a vail that divides man and God.

I guess in a sense, this is true. In the grand scheme of things, it will pretty difficult to prove either way, so this is just like a huge mental brainstorm. I guess I should allow you to explain yourself. I was all geared up for cosmology, but I don't think that was your intent really.

I think in the mechanics of a concave hollow earth, the veil is the firmament (glass sky), and waters. Is that ether or dark matter? I don't know this stuff backwards and forwards, but I will say, that I believe God is much closer, than people realize. No further than 4,000 miles away, but why the discussion? What are you trying hash out?
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The point in the thread is to reveal the revelations that come with seeing what the firmament is.But with spiritual eyes.That doesn't mean that it didn't manifest physically.Since when God spoke it, and everything else into existence by his word,breath,spirit, it all became into being.

Every of God's creations in his eyes would be considered living,like everything we can see in this physical realm.Even a stone.
Because all things became "flesh" or physical by his word.Which is Spirit,water,blood.
The firmament spoken in Genesis is spirit.The waters below is water,and the waters above the firmament is blood.
In his image he created it.
 
Lifted_by_the_word said:
Doesn't the firmament that most of us think of and the Holy Spirit operate in the same way?There's a expanse separating us from God's
heavenly physical kingdom,which means we are the waters below the firmament in our physical dimension.

The Holy Spirit "raptures" us into the heavenly kingdom by separating us from the waters below the firmament and into the waters above.The firmament/Holy Spirit is what causes this separation.

When God created all things he build it on a foundation which is Jesus.To put it in one word that foundation is love,for God is love.

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

If he does it through the blood of his cross then all's you need to realize that it's by Spirit,water,blood which you are reconciled unto himself.Scripture says all things are reconciled in the same way.

Read the rest of Colossians 1:12-22 and you might get a clearer understanding of the verses.

We with the Holy Spirit walk in the promise land.The firmament is called heaven in Genesis.The Holy Spirit is a firmament,therefore the kingdom of God came down from heaven at Pentecost.
This is heaven on earth.Or a remnant of it till the heavens roll like a scroll.
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Yeah, it works. The stars in the firmament represent Gods people, and we are in the Spirit.
 
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kinda said:
I think there is evidence for the firmament. I have a whole thread about alternative view points of the cosmology ("Concave Hollow Earth") in the Conspiracy Forum, some which directly discusses this in detail, but anyways here are some talking points.


Flashlight has either a plastic or glass piece in front of the bulb.

Here is a flashlight beam..
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Here are sun dogs and moon dogs.

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View attachment 287703

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The air itself comes in the image of spirit.God's words are spirit.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

All 3 of spirit,water,blood are as one.That's why there is life in the spirit because the is life in the blood.

Aren't these sun dogs and moon dogs coming about by temperature or conditions of the air?

When scripture speaks of birds flying in the firmament you can see that it is also a type of firmament coming by the image of spirit.
 
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