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TruthDefender said:
Who is “We?” Are you Jewish? They killed Jesus.
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Please try and get up to speed on this.
And again @ChristRoseFromTheDead is in the weeds as usual.

Mat 26:53
Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

Mat 26:54
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Jhn 18:6
When Jesus said, “I am He,” they drew back and fell to the ground.
 
ZNP said:
It is also fulfilled by the gospel being preached to all nations, not simply to people living around the Mediterranean. It is also fulfilled by the gospel being published in every nation, every tongue. Today there are more than 1,600 languages that the New Testament has been translated into.

BTW you never answered my question. You seem to take issue with the idea that there is a gap between the 69th week of Daniel where the Messiah is cut off at the cross, and the 70th week. Does this mean that you teach the last seven years of these 70 weeks took place in the seven years immediately following Jesus' crucifixion?
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No gap correct/biblical view.

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HeIsHere said:
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So then that is a yes.

Jesus said you need to forgive 70x7. That is 70 weeks. The gospel has gone to the four corners of the earth, that is 4x70x7 = 1,960 + 70 AD = 2030.

Jesus also told the Pharisees they would be given the sign of Jonah. Yes, that is the death and resurrection, but it also includes 40 days walking to and fro throughout the city telling them to repent. If Jesus told them this in 30 AD on the 9th of Av then it was exactly 40 years to the day when their temple was destroyed and they were scattered to the four corners and the gospel went to the nations.

Paul is the one who came up with the gospel to the nations. It was 15 to 30 years after the crucifixion that the letters of Paul were written. Long after your "70th week" is over. So not only did the gospel not go to the nations, it didn't go to any of the nations. Peter opened the door, but they didn't have the gospel for the uncircumcision yet, didn't publish it and didn't preach it.
 
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ZNP said:
So then that is a yes.

Jesus said you need to forgive 70x7. That is 70 weeks. The gospel has gone to the four corners of the earth, that is 4x70x7 = 1,960 + 70 AD = 2030.

Jesus also told the Pharisees they would be given the sign of Jonah. Yes, that is the death and resurrection, but it also includes 40 days walking to and fro throughout the city telling them to repent. If Jesus told them this in 30 AD on the 9th of Av then it was exactly 40 years to the day when their temple was destroyed and they were scattered to the four corners and the gospel went to the nations.

Paul is the one who came up with the gospel to the nations. It was 15 to 30 years after the crucifixion that the letters of Paul were written. Long after your "70th week" is over. So not only did the gospel not go to the nations, it didn't go to any of the nations. Peter opened the door, but they didn't have the gospel for the uncircumcision yet, didn't publish it and didn't preach it.
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You raise some intriguing and fascinating patterns and algorithms.
And YES, such patterns are many times intentional and relevant.

And YES, this preposterous nonsense that the 70th week is continuous to the 69 is effortlessly debunked.
And has been many times.
 
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ZNP said:
So then that is a yes.

Jesus said you need to forgive 70x7. That is 70 weeks. The gospel has gone to the four corners of the earth, that is 4x70x7 = 1,960 + 70 AD = 2030.

Jesus also told the Pharisees they would be given the sign of Jonah. Yes, that is the death and resurrection, but it also includes 40 days walking to and fro throughout the city telling them to repent. If Jesus told them this in 30 AD on the 9th of Av then it was exactly 40 years to the day when their temple was destroyed and they were scattered to the four corners and the gospel went to the nations.

Paul is the one who came up with the gospel to the nations. It was 15 to 30 years after the crucifixion that the letters of Paul were written. Long after your "70th week" is over. So not only did the gospel not go to the nations, it didn't go to any of the nations. Peter opened the door, but they didn't have the gospel for the uncircumcision yet, didn't publish it and didn't preach it.
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FYI, there is plenty of reason to believe that the terms "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom"
is an Hebrew idiom for world war. Unprecedented world war. That phenomenon only occurred in 1914 and afterward.

So yea, this 1914 theory has legs.

Mat 24:7
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Okay.
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Who in their right mind would want to die on that 70AD hill of yours?
And NO, the end has not come either.

Incredibly, the Reformed crowd tacitly denies the Second Coming.
No Israel, no Second Coming. Simple as that.

Mat 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 
TruthDefender said:
Who is “We?” Are you Jewish? They killed Jesus.
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Jhn 18:10
Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. The servant’s name was Malchus.

Luk 22:51
But Jesus replied, “Stop! No more of this.” And He touched the ear and healed him.

Jhn 18:11
So Jesus said to Peter, “Put the sword [back] in its sheath! Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?”
 
cv5 said:
Who in their right mind would want to die on that 70AD hill of yours?
And NO, the end has not come either.

Incredibly, the Reformed crowd tacitly denies the Second Coming.
No Israel, no Second Coming. Simple as that.

Mat 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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Dispensational eschatology appeals to the flesh and also minimizes the victory of Christ Jesus.
I will pass.
 
cv5 said:
Not interested in Augustinian philosophy.
Whether it be insipid one liners or 3" thick codexes.
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One does not have to be in the the Reformed/Augustinian camp to know dispensationalism is false.
At its heart you deny exactly what the Bible makes very clear over and over again.

Ephesians 2:14-16 KJV

"For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us…"

In Christ, the dividing wall between Jew and Gentile has been removed. There is one people of God, not two. Dispensationalism undermines this unity and creates a disjointed doctrine that is foreign to the apostles’ teaching.
 
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