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HeIsHere said:
What covenant did the Romans have with God?
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I shouldn't have mentioned Daniel 9 as it's one of the most contested chapters of the Bible. Theologians have been debating it's meaning for the past 100 years and they haven't reached any consensus.

The Romans destroyed the second Temple, just as Daniel 9 predicted that it would be destroyed. The Romans didn't have any covenant with God, but they served His purpouse by destroying the Temple. God used the Romans to punish Israel for breaking the covenant.
 
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THIS COULD Get BAD! FAST!​


There is a technique that the CIA uses to get information and it is called "elicitation". In this technique they will intentionally make an incorrect statement to a person because while we don't like to be interrogated by others we are suckers when it comes to correcting others.

I believe that AI has bumped this up ten fold, maybe even 100 fold. It is saying incorrect things to elicit information which is being stored on each and every person. This whole thing with the pictures of Trump and Jesus is to me, one very clear example of this.
 
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Journey_man said:
I shouldn't have mentioned Daniel 9 as it's one of the most contested chapters of the Bible. Theologians have been debating it's meaning for the past 100 years and they haven't reached any consensus.

The Romans destroyed the second Temple, just as Daniel 9 predicted that it would be destroyed. The Romans didn't have any covenant with God, but they served His purpouse by destroying the Temple. God used the Romans to punish Israel for breaking the covenant.
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"Theologians have been debating it's meaning for the past 100 years and they haven't reached any consensus."

On the contrary, consensus has indeed been reached. Certainly for me and many others.
Just not for your brain trust.

Frankly, now that Israel is in the land, I ponder why anyone is still confused.
 
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Journey_man said:
I shouldn't have mentioned Daniel 9 as it's one of the most contested chapters of the Bible. Theologians have been debating it's meaning for the past 100 years and they haven't reached any consensus.

The Romans destroyed the second Temple, just as Daniel 9 predicted that it would be destroyed. The Romans didn't have any covenant with God, but they served His purpose by destroying the Temple. God used the Romans to punish Israel for breaking the covenant.
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Yes agree completely on this.
 
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The problem is doctrines based on the interpretation of a single verse. Chuck Missler did a wonderful explanation of why the Bible doesn't simply give you a comprehensive doctrine in any one location. He compared the Bible to an information system conveying information during a war that the enemy will try to corrupt. By changing the meaning of a verse here or there it will not change the message that is sent, much like a holographic image. When you look at this image in 2d it is fuzzy, but if you run the full holographic image it will be a sharp, 3d image. This is why before trying to interpret scripture you should read the Bible 100 times.
 
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ZNP said:
This is why before trying to interpret scripture you should read the Bible 100 times.
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This is not as hard as it sounds. If you read through the Bible 1-2 times a year, that will get you to about 50x after 30 years. In addition every time you study a book of the bible read it 50 times, once a day, for two months. That gets you to 100 times for say the entire New Testament by the end of those 30 years. Plus, if you have the bible on tape (CD, digital) in your car you can probably go through the Bible an additional 4 times a year. I would not advise this before reading the entire Bible ten times, but after ten years if you are diligent you can listen to it on tape while driving and be able to follow along without getting lost in names and events. In this way you can get through the entire Bible 100x while having a job or going to school in 20 years. During this time you can study 40 books of the Bible in depth (two per year).

The bogus doctrines always come from people who don't read the Bible or who trust in "what their pastor says" or have read the Bible once. Basically anyone younger than 40 teaching some "new doctrine" should raise eyebrows. Either this is another Watchman Nee or it is simply someone who hears a message that tickled their ears.
 
ZNP said:
This is why before trying to interpret scripture you should read the Bible 100 times.
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You could read the bible a gazillion times and still not get it. Without the spirit of understanding to put the pieces together it will just be a bunch of verses that can be arranged into any doctrine that suits the carnal mind. So if a person prays for and receives understanding, then they can interpret scripture perfectly after reading once.
 
ZNP said:
The problem is doctrines based on the interpretation of a single verse. Chuck Missler did a wonderful explanation of why the Bible doesn't simply give you a comprehensive doctrine in any one location. He compared the Bible to an information system conveying information during a war that the enemy will try to corrupt. By changing the meaning of a verse here or there it will not change the message that is sent, much like a holographic image. When you look at this image in 2d it is fuzzy, but if you run the full holographic image it will be a sharp, 3d image. This is why before trying to interpret scripture you should read the Bible 100 times.
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Yes, Chuck did an amazing job on that "Cosmic Codes" series. It was the basis of his PhD thesis in fact.
Chuck rightly says that our Bible is an integrated message from outside our time domain

The net of it is that YES, there are different types of "coded" information in the Bible.
The Biblical narrative "types" and prophecies are in effect macrocodes. Repeating and amplifying analogous to fractals.

And the "signal" has a certain "bandwidth" and is "distributed" to foil "hostile jamming".

And I totally agree, this is certainty the case. Oh yes, these embedded "signals" are marks of AUTHENTICITY.
Divine Watermarks. No other compendium of data shares these unique attributes.

Too bad the Churches today fail to recognize this awesomeness.
Normally they get stuck on "TULIP" and/or bashing and denying the Jews.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
We're not confused; you are. Maybe 2% of Israel's population is Christian. No person on earth without faith in Christ is Israel
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I think you are "confusing" confused with cluelessness and willful intransigence. And denial.

Fortunately I have the ability to see this to be the case very clearly indeed.

Lucky me huh? But then again, I love Israel and the Jews so I suppose that God has granted me sight.
 
cv5 said:
Yes, Chuck did an amazing job on that "Cosmic Codes" series. It was the basis of his PhD thesis in fact.
Chuck rightly says that our Bible is an integrated message from outside our time domain

The net of it is that YES, there are different types of "coded" information in the Bible.
The Biblical narrative "types" and prophecies are in effect macrocodes. Repeating and amplifying analogous to fractals.

And the "signal" has a certain "bandwidth" and is "distributed" to foil "hostile jamming".

And I totally agree, this is certainty the case. Oh yes, these embedded "signals" are marks of AUTHENTICITY.
Divine Watermarks. No other compendium of data shares these unique attributes.

Too bad the Churches today fail to recognize this awesomeness.
Normally they get stuck on "TULIP" and/or bashing and denying the Jews.
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Those signals and codings are the holy spirit. Some people are not tuned to that frequency to be able to hear what the spirit of truth is saying; therefore they will always think and believe error.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
You could read the bible a gazillion times and still not get it. Without the spirit of understanding to put the pieces together it will just be a bunch of verses that can be arranged into any doctrine that suits the carnal mind. So if a person prays for and receives understanding, then they can interpret scripture perfectly after reading once.
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I call that bold talk from somebody who abjectly and repeatedly denied the profound teaching
of John 10:17-18, thereby diminishing the Deity of Christ.

In John 10:17–18, "V-2AAN" is the grammatical proof of Christ’s claim to have the active, independent authority to reclaim His life in a single, definitive act.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
No he hasn't. He has blinded you to the truth
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On the contrary, it is those who despise the Jews and deny their wonderful future, so warranted and guaranteed by the work of their Kinsman Redeemer Jesus Messiah, that are suffering blindness.

Nothing could be more obvious.

And NO, Alex Jones and Candace Owens are not the go-to people for assistance in this matter.
 
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cv5 said:
On the contrary, it is those who despise the Jews and deny their wonderful future, so warranted and guaranteed by the work of their Kinsman Redeemer Jesus Messiah, that are suffering blindness.

Nothing could be more obvious.

And NO, Alex Jones and Candace Owens are not the go-to people for assistance in this matter.
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Saying that people who disagree with your particular viewpoint are despising the object of your affection is just projection on your part to frame things in such a way to give you a false sense of superiority. You need that because you don't have the witness of the spirit of truth that what you believe is truth
 
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cv5 said:
I call that bold talk from somebody who abjectly and repeatedly denied the profound teaching
of John 10:17-18, thereby diminishing the Deity of Christ.

In John 10:17–18, "V-2AAN" is the grammatical proof of Christ’s claim to have the active, independent authority to reclaim His life in a single, definitive act.
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I am quite confident that @ChristRoseFromTheDead has Christ relegated to a mere mortal, without deity and the Image of God to him/her is this......


Gen 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

No Trinity.
And
No deity.

Prove me wrong @ChristRoseFromTheDead ........Please.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
And you're quite wrong about that. God made creation through Christ, who has always been with the father.
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Seems like when their "eschatology"
does not hold up under the scrutiny of scripture,
in desperation other topics are thrown into the ring as a deflection.

Perhaps just easier to admit dispensationalism has been completely manufactured, it is so obvious.
 
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